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GOPHER SLAYER
01-17-2012, 04:27 PM
Cast Boolit Brothers, I am sorry but I have to tell this to someone and my wife just does not care. I was watching a new episode of the show, Palm Stars last night and a young man brought in an 1860 Colt revolver. It was in a case whch to me did not look like an original. A powder flask was also in the case and il looked like a repo as well. Of course the expert was called in. When he arrived he picked up the pistol and began to expound on the history of Colt firearms. He said among other things that before the 1860 pistol, all sidearms were large and heavy of the dragoon type. I suppose he had not yet seen a 1851 Navy. He went on to look at the gun , pointing out that the serial numbers all matched. He did not notice that there a notch cut in the butt, put there to hold the lower half of a shoulder stock. I have only seen one other with this notch. Although the pistol looked very tight and sound to me, they were concerned that it might explode if fired. All agreed that if the gun fired it would be worth more money, so theyarranged to meet the next day for a test fire. When they met at the range the expert proceeded to load the weapon. Chumly asked if he was going to load all the chambers and he said yes and he did. He then filled the front of the chambers with what looked like lithium grease. He eplained why he did this. Now I will interject a little side note here. I have fired many plack powder pistols for pleasure and compitition. I shot with the Blue and Greys in the early '60s. Grey of course. Some people greased the chambers and some did not. I fired a copy of the Colt called a Manhatten once. I don't remember if the man greased the chambers or not but when I pulled the trigger three chambers fired. Nothing untoward happened. Now back to my tale. Althought the expert said he would load all chamers , I noticed when he cocked the pistol and was aiming, the only chamber with a cap was the one under the hammer. He went on to shoot all rounds at the target. No dought having capped the other chambers. The target appeared to be about thirty feet. All present applauded. A price of $2200 was agreed on. I have not gone to a gun show in several years so I am a little behind the times as to gun values but that price seemed low to me. I suppose I will have to get with the program if I too want to become an expert. Thanks for listening . I just had to vent my spleen. Also, over look all misspelled words and incorrect punctuation.

Jason30-30
01-17-2012, 06:09 PM
I Think the show you reffered to is Pawn Stars on History Channel. I missed it last night.

jcwit
01-17-2012, 07:24 PM
I'm positive portions of the actual time on the range are edited out as is the real time in the shop with the "Stars" and the customer.

I also noticed several minor discrepancies, but I wasn't there and could not see the items in real life. As you noticed the target was fairly close, you guessed 30 feet, I guessed 20 feet, no matter it would have been hard to miss for sure.

Not sure why one needs to fire the piece to tell if it was in working order.

Oh Well, its television and still one of my favorite shows.

Wayne Smith
01-17-2012, 07:28 PM
They have done that with a number of firearms, including a couple of cannons. I really think it's for the TV, not to prove anything about the gun. Seeing a gun go off, or a cannon go off, makes good TV even if it means nothing otherwise.

DLCTEX
01-17-2012, 08:27 PM
My thought also was "why does it need to be fired?. If the gun is in good condition and thought to be valuable, why risk damage by firing it. I believe I could tell if the gun was in good working order without firing it. The way the "expert" smeared the grease looked really sloppy to me. The grease looked like yellow Crisco to me. I didn't catch the single primer part, but a chainfire could occur due to uncovered nipples. A chainfire that occurred with my ROA was blamed by some on the primer splitting due to being undersized for the nipples.( the front was greased) The other cyls. were capped, so I disagree.

GOPHER SLAYER
01-17-2012, 08:35 PM
Well Jason, I did warn you about the spelling. My point in writing the thread was to help show the over flowing abundance of ignorance on the part of the average citizen when it comes to firearms. I still hear semi automatic handguns refered to as revolvers on TV and in movies.

waksupi
01-17-2012, 09:33 PM
A pawn shop will pay 50% or less for everything.

blackthorn
01-17-2012, 11:41 PM
Yep--second hand stores and pawn shops work on a minimum 100% mark-up. I know this because my brother in law had a store.

waksupi
01-18-2012, 02:10 AM
Most likely an important thing to know, if you would need money at some time, and need a reality check for what you can actually get for an item at a given time.

Bob in Revelstoke
01-18-2012, 02:27 AM
When I first saw this program listed I thought it said Porn Stars, turned out to be some fat guys
in a pawn shop.

Disappointed all round.

starmac
01-18-2012, 02:58 AM
Several years ago, I was in a pawnshop, looking for a 30/30 for a christmas present for a nephew. They had a couple in the 200 dollar range. A guy come in wanting to pawn a nice marlin with a scope and soft case. He was offered 60 bucks pawn, but said he needed more, so they told him that they would pay 80 bucks if he sold it outright, I bought it for 125, but don't think I was ever welcome in there again for some reason. lol