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Catshooter
03-07-2007, 10:52 PM
I admit it, I'm crazy. I'm one of those guys who like the .25 auto. I don't carry one, I prefer a .45, but they are fun to shoot, and I would rather have one than nothing at all.

I've never been able to find anything but the 50 grain round nose mould for them though. Oh boy.

I made the mistake of asking 45 2.1 if could reduce my .45 210 down for the .25 auto. Look what he did! .25, .32, oh man. Makarov!?!

I kinda doubt that we'll get 25 per each type, I mean they're can't be that many people as crazy as me, can there?

So post your sickness and we'll see how it goes.


Cat

45 2.1
03-07-2007, 10:56 PM
Take a look.

45 2.1
03-07-2007, 10:57 PM
Take another look.

45 2.1
03-07-2007, 10:58 PM
And another.

45 2.1
03-07-2007, 11:01 PM
And another one.

45 2.1
03-07-2007, 11:02 PM
And finally.

targetshootr
03-07-2007, 11:09 PM
Alrighty then. Will the 40 work for 38-40 and will the 32 work for 32-20?

Catshooter
03-07-2007, 11:49 PM
target,

Of course! Sorry you asked?:)

45 2.1, that sure didn't take you long. We're feeding the sickness, you know.



Cat

Poohgyrr
03-07-2007, 11:56 PM
I can't help myself....

If the .25 auto is a mousegun, and if we load one with Keith boolits, then does it become a ratgun?? Them rats are tough ya know.

http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/6664/mousegun.jpg

Boomer Mikey
03-08-2007, 03:20 AM
I was disappointed when you stopped at 40! Where's the 41, the 44, the 454, and the 458?

Boomer :Fire:

Lloyd Smale
03-08-2007, 05:25 AM
mouse packing a baer!!! Id possible be interested in the .40 version and possibly even the 25 I havent bothered reloading 25s there about the only thing i buy. BUt i have to agree its fun to play with once in a while.
I can't help myself....

If the .25 auto is a mousegun, and if we load one with Keith boolits, then does it become a ratgun?? Them rats are tough ya know.

http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/6664/mousegun.jpg

45 2.1
03-08-2007, 07:31 AM
I was disappointed when you stopped at 40! Where's the 41, the 44, the 454, and the 458?

Boomer :Fire:

You really want me to go on?? Cat nearly had a stroke when he saw them all lined up. I really didn't think the others would fly. The 454 is already covered also.

All these are direct scale downs of Cats 210 gr. Target boolit. They can be tweeked and modified for weight and length somewhat to fit individual cartridges. The 380/38acp/spr/9mm could have two weights also.

Bodydoc447
03-08-2007, 09:00 AM
I'd be in for at least the 9mm Mak and the .40 versions. Probably HAVE to get the .32 as well. I am infected with .32itis.

Doc

targetshootr
03-08-2007, 10:49 AM
I'd like the 40 to be 180 gr or more if possible but it's not as high on my list as the 285 gr 45 Keith that I think is in the works.

Tristan
03-08-2007, 12:44 PM
Ya'll are going to be the (financial) death of me... :groner:

Springfield
03-08-2007, 12:51 PM
That MAk bullet would work great in my 38 S&W pocket pistols for cowboy shooting, BP of course. .

Boomer Mikey
03-08-2007, 02:02 PM
This place is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much fun! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

I can imagine the mad boolit designer at his computer at 4 in the morning with a slide rule, a calculator, and six windows of designs on his computer screen. :killingpc

Poohgyrr is up late at night training his pet mouse to handle the awsome recoil of the rat pistol. :cool:

Everyone is busy filling out loan applications to re-finance our houses to get in on all the group buys. :idea:

While I'm looking for all the checks, addresses, drawings, deposit slips, and going to the bank. [smilie=2:


Boomer :Fire:

dragonrider
03-08-2007, 05:51 PM
the 380 and 9mm I'm in for.

Catshooter
03-08-2007, 08:36 PM
Gee, some interest! :)


Cat

dot6
03-08-2007, 09:24 PM
Will toy around with my PPK/S tomorrow to get an idea of just what it will / will not feed. If it will eat something like this, I'll be in for the .380 version.

Johnch
03-08-2007, 10:09 PM
I would take a 40 cal


IMO the 25 is cute , but way to much work
The 32 ACP ..................LOL I shoot less than a box a year


I guess I just think big :drinks:

Johnch

BluesBear
03-09-2007, 01:12 AM
I'd be in for a .32, a ,380, a .40, .41 and a .44.

Now if that .25 was a hollow point....


Anyone know why Lee doesn't make a six cavity hollow point mould?
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?p=158746#post158746

CSH
03-09-2007, 11:23 AM
I would go for the 380 if the specs are in the .358 - .359 range.

Bret4207
03-09-2007, 06:20 PM
I gotta say, those are fine looking designs. My hats off to 45 2.1 on that design. Simple and it looks effective.

hunter64
03-10-2007, 10:25 AM
I would like to see the bullets but for some reason on this web site all I get is a box with Attached Thumbnail on the top and I don't see any pictures. I was out at the girlfriends a couple of days ago and I could see all the pictures fine on her computer, anyone have any ideas how I can Unlock my computer so I can see the pictures? I know it is off topic but I hate to have to wait a few days to get to see them.

Johnch
03-10-2007, 05:14 PM
I would like to see the bullets but for some reason on this web site all I get is a box with Attached Thumbnail on the top and I don't see any pictures. I was out at the girlfriends a couple of days ago and I could see all the pictures fine on her computer, anyone have any ideas how I can Unlock my computer so I can see the pictures? I know it is off topic but I hate to have to wait a few days to get to see them.

Right click the box
Click on properties ( sp )
Cut the address .
Mininize the page
Paste the address and go to it

Hope this helps

Johnch

hunter64
03-11-2007, 06:00 PM
My problem is with Zone Alarm software. If I turn it off then I can see the thumbnail pictures just fine. I will play with it and find out exactly what needs to be done to remove this annoying problem and post it back when I figure it out. Must be alot of people in the same boat because I have had a lot of emails stating they have the same problem.

mattc
03-12-2007, 06:33 AM
I would be enterested in the .32 mold if it would fit my .32 H&R, I would also be enterested in one for the .44 and maby one for the .41

Drifter
03-13-2007, 07:13 AM
I would be interested in the 9mm and the .40 but would like to see the 9mm in 125 gr. and the .40 in 180 gr.
Drifter

OLPDon
03-13-2007, 08:31 PM
Will toy around with my PPK/S tomorrow to get an idea of just what it will / will not feed. If it will eat something like this, I'll be in for the .380 version.

Oh no!!!!! And I thought I had enough moulds, at least I don't have a need for a .25 yet.

I'll wait to see what we all come up with and then commit Money or commit myself to Moulds, Molds, Anonymous Rehab.
Don

drinks
03-14-2007, 03:47 PM
Don't look now, but Lee has a .401, 145gr that is very, very similar and a .358, 105gr that has 2 lube grooves rather than one.
I use the .358 in .38sp, .357 Mag and, with the base hollowed out a bit it becomes a 90gr Min'ie for my repro , 36 H&A underhammer ML.

j4570
03-15-2007, 10:10 PM
I might be in for the 380/9mm, seems like it might be nice in 9mm Ultra

JW

Poohgyrr
03-17-2007, 01:15 PM
Oh man, I messed up!

I left the computer on last night, and my mouse saw the group buy for .25 caliber gas checks.

Now he wants me to get 5K for his ratgun.

[smilie=1:

Ranch Dog
03-18-2007, 10:51 PM
I'd be interested in a buy for the 25 ACP... any thoughts on how the nose design will feed? My JA25 does well with the "RF" but it took some work. A Lee 6 banger will need a torch on it all the time to stay hot enough to do a good job! Go'na be a lot of aluminum and not much hole! May need to wire it to an electric cord and wear insulated gloves [smilie=1:

Catshooter
03-19-2007, 09:07 PM
Ranch,

Who can tell if it'll feed? I got no idea at all. But I don't care, I'm buying me one. Let's wait a few days or a week and we'll see how many other crazies there are. Take it from there. Work for you?


Cat

BluesBear
03-20-2007, 07:35 AM
Could you talk Lee into boring ten .25" cavities into the block?
There's room for them and the higher cavity/block ratio might make it easier keeping it hot enough.

Wayne Smith
03-20-2007, 08:02 AM
I'd be in for a 9mm Mak and a .40, as long as I can come up with the scratch.

Powderpacker
03-20-2007, 08:46 AM
Can someone explain how we can do a six cav .25 ACP that weighs only 35.6 gr. but we can't do a .224 plain base/flat point that would weigh 45-50 gr. ? Seems the .224 would have more thermal mass and therefore work better than the .25ACP yet the concensus seems to be the .224 can't be done in an aluminum mold . I'm confused !

Catshooter
03-20-2007, 08:55 PM
Blues,

Definatley not. Lee won't do it.

Powder,

No one says the .25 will work without supplementlal heat on the mould. I've never heard of anyone doing a .25 ACP mould, have you?

Wayne and others,

It looks like there is about six or seven calls for this design in .40. I think I'll post it.


Cat

BluesBear
03-21-2007, 01:07 AM
I've never heard of anyone doing a .25 ACP mould, have you?
Not in aluminium.
And as I recall the old Lyman #252435 had a shorter than usual block.

The only .25acp mould I have ever had any experience was an old H&G #117.
It was a eight banger the size of a normal six* and it was a bugger to keep hot enough.



*hence my original query as to Lee doing the same.

Mohillbilly
03-21-2007, 08:32 PM
I like the 22 and the 25 ACP .My S&W mod 53 (.22jet) would like a low power "plink" for(40-50gr) backyard use.Just something different to play with.The "baby" Browning,Colt,and Bauer,think it is a good idea too. .32 s I got, but would probably get one if it is design to feed in ACP. Maybe a 38/longColt,.40small&weak/10mm/38-40 lite weight for plink'n. a TL would do nicely if deep enough.I missed the .41 Keith, so will get one, and would like a heavy RNFP(LBTstyle). 44s I got... 45s I got...If I get a 45-70,I figured two'r three of those in a lite(target) med. for deer,and a heavy(LBTstyle) for buff/moose.Gee as I count seems like 10 or so new molds that I would be in the running for.If I was lucky that would ONLY take two'r three yrs.

Ranch Dog
03-21-2007, 10:53 PM
I have a 252-50-RF two-cavity mold from Lee and it does a great job if it is kept very hot. Same story as that proposed... a lot of aluminum around two small bullet holes. This is a picture of that mold with boolits in the cavities.

http://gunloads.com/fam/ranchdogmolds/TL25250RF/25250RF.jpg

The bottom-line is that I would be in on this 25 ACP design, 2 or 6-cavity, simply because there are no boolit choices out there other that the one mold offered by RCBS. My guess is that a two-cavity would be better from a casting stand point as maintaining mold temperature is going to be a big chore with the six-cavity because it is a chore with this two-cavity. I think production would be better with the two-cavity as you are going to see a lot of shrunk up, wrinkled boolits fall from the six-cavity. I've tried shooting some of these "rejects" from my JA25 and they just don't feed well. I suspect the wrinkles create some amount of drag as the boolit nose travels up the ramp from the magazine.

I like tumble lubing my boolits and I have this boolit on the drawing board with a Micro-Band. The boolit from the mold that I have has a basic lube groove and it is very close to the base of the boolit. Once the boolit is on it's base on wax paper, the lube starts to flow off the boolit. As a "pool" of lube forms at the base of the boolit on the paper, it seems that this "pool" of lube wicks the lube right out of the lube groove probably through capillary action. Granted, at 950 FPS and 15.0K CUP you don't need much lube but I'm interested in seeing if the Micro-Band will hold the LLA a bit better.

Count me in Dude! I love the little 25 ACP!