PDA

View Full Version : .327 rifle...why not???



bowfin
01-03-2012, 04:33 PM
I am really surprised that a .327 rifle hasn't shown up yet. A lever action is an obvious platform, but at least a Handi-rifle and ideally a Ruger bolt action, same as the .357.

No, we don't need one, but people buy what they want as much as what they need.

I understand Marlin has its plate full right now, but it seems like a no brainer to me...

...then again, I thought someone was going to come out with a 5mm Remington Magnum rifle when Aguila started making ammunition for it again.

1Shirt
01-03-2012, 04:35 PM
There will be no supply if there is no demand~
1Shirt!!:coffeecom

rbertalotto
01-03-2012, 10:37 PM
Any 327 Mag break open action rifle and a reamer will get it done!

A Contender is the obvious choice here.

TXGunNut
01-03-2012, 10:45 PM
I agree, will it fit in a 1892 action? It's an underrated handgun cartridge so it may not be around long enough to make it into carbines. Would be a shame.

MT Gianni
01-04-2012, 12:56 AM
It is hard enough to find a 357 lever and now you want to slow them down more? I like the idea.

bowfin
01-04-2012, 10:47 AM
There will be no supply if there is no demand~

...and sometimes there is no supply when there is a demand:

Ruger .32 H&R Single-Six

Smith & Wesson Model 16 .32 H&R

Colt Python

Ruger #3

Nylon 66

These are all guns that seem to be bringing a price in used condition that would rival what they could be sold for new from the factory.

williamwaco
01-04-2012, 11:01 AM
I am really surprised that a .327 rifle hasn't shown up yet. A lever action is an obvious platform, but at least a Handi-rifle and ideally a Ruger bolt action, same as the .357.

No, we don't need one, but people buy what they want as much as what they need.

I understand Marlin has its plate full right now, but it seems like a no brainer to me...

...then again, I thought someone was going to come out with a 5mm Remington Magnum rifle when Aguila started making ammunition for it again.

There are several custom barrel makers that will make you anything you want.

http://www.matchgrademachine.com/gunshop/Order-Barrels/

http://www.bullberry.com/TCbarrels.html


You mention only .32 caliber rifle.
You do not mention cartridge.
Have you considered the .32-20 or the .30-M1 carbine?
Or the .32 Winchester Special ( Probably larger than yuo are looking for. )

.

northmn
01-04-2012, 11:53 AM
I am not knocking the idea so much as a 327 would likely be in a factory load what some load in a 32-20. I have a 32-20 and like it, but am thinking about cutting the power level of my handloads. I mostly carry with me on my ATC or tractor when I get up fire wood in case I see a coyote or a small game animal. I shot a grouse with it and found it a little more dmaging than I would like. I currently load it with a 120 grain bullet at about 1500. Note when Marlin made these that they did not really go over.

DP

bowfin
01-04-2012, 04:19 PM
Note when Marlin made these that they did not really go over.

Marlin had the absolute worse timing and patience of any firearms company that ever existed. (The old Marlin company, not the new one owned by Remington)

Marlin did away with their .32-20, .25-20, and .218 Bee just before the Cowboy Action craze. They did away with their 10 gauge Goose gun in 1985, just before turkey populations exploded and steel shot was mandated in 1991.

bowfin
01-04-2012, 04:21 PM
Have you considered the .32-20 or the .30-M1 carbine?

Actually, if I had either of those, that would be fine.

I do think that the .327 case would be a little better design than either of those, if one were starting from scratch.

6pt-sika
01-04-2012, 07:38 PM
"If" I were inclined to get a rifle in 327 Federal I think I'd find a nice used Marlin 1894CB in 357 and reline the barrel and make a couple adjustments . And that should be fine !

VA Shooter
01-05-2012, 09:36 AM
If some one came out with a leaver gun in 327 I would be first in line to get one. I can't understand why people kind of stay away from the 327 I think if they shot it they would get one. my friend got one and after loading and casting for it he said he was selling his 357. If you have not tried one yet you should give it a try

Reload3006
01-05-2012, 10:18 AM
I have wanted a 327 for years. The biggest reason for not pulling the trigger is the availability of brass and ammo.

6pt-sika
01-05-2012, 10:55 AM
If some one came out with a leaver gun in 327 I would be first in line to get one. I can't understand why people kind of stay away from the 327 I think if they shot it they would get one. my friend got one and after loading and casting for it he said he was selling his 357. If you have not tried one yet you should give it a try


We're not to far from each other !

I'm in Orange Couty which is about 60 miles from Front Royal i think .

I had one of the Ruger SP-101's in 327 when they first came out . the little revolver was nice enough but kinda LOUD . I would assume that will lessen the noise factor some .
If I had a 1894CB with the 24" barrel relined to 327 Federal . I'd shoot either the Ranch Dog 313-115GC or the Lyman 311316 with a stout load of H-110 and not be afraid to shoot Virginia deer out to say 75 yards !

Ed in North Texas
01-05-2012, 11:37 AM
...and sometimes there is no supply when there is a demand:

snip

These are all guns that seem to be bringing a price in used condition that would rival what they could be sold for new from the factory.

Stating the obvious - the current asking/selling price is influenced by the lack of significant supplies on the market. Some, if not all, of these would not bring sufficient income if there was no shortage in the marketplace.

Ed

KCSO
01-05-2012, 12:02 PM
I think the 327 is a dead horse. Because of excessive flame cutting in revolvers many have been recalled and I believe Taurus has dropped the 327 and they are being closed out by CDNN. There just isn't a big demand for the 32's for some reason and I very rarely even get a call for a box of shells for any 32 revolver. I liike the 32 H and R and have a nice Ruger Biisley but never got the bug for a 327. I see no reason a 32 barrel couldn't be fiitted to say a Rossi 92 but it would cost more than the original gun.

VA Shooter
01-05-2012, 12:39 PM
We're not to far from each other !

I'm in Orange Couty which is about 60 miles from Front Royal i think .

I had one of the Ruger SP-101's in 327 when they first came out . the little revolver was nice enough but kinda LOUD . I would assume that will lessen the noise factor some .
If I had a 1894CB with the 24" barrel relined to 327 Federal . I'd shoot either the Ranch Dog 313-115GC or the Lyman 311316 with a stout load of H-110 and not be afraid to shoot Virginia deer out to say 75 yards !

Yea Im down that way from time to time Mom lives at lake of the woods. I cast the Lyman 311008 115 and it does real good in my GP 100 my buddy killed a 5 pt buck with his same boolit and not sure of powder charge went 25 yds DRT

TJF1
01-05-2012, 01:06 PM
I would love to have a 327 rifle i have a 1000 rounds of brass
it is not hard to find in okla.
Terry

GabbyM
01-06-2012, 02:18 AM
Several bolt guns for sale in 7.62 x 39mm.
Bottle neck cases run right through a Dillon progressive using a Lee collet neck size die. Or any bushing neck die with a little mica on a brush for case prep. I'm personally not that big a fan of straight wall cases. The way I see it there's not a great vacuum out there waiting to be filled.

lbaize3
01-06-2012, 01:19 PM
I think a 327 rifle would make an excellent small carbine to carry in the woods. Flexibility in loading gives one loads for squirrels up to deer at close range. The 327 brass allows use of a carbide sizer to speed and simplify reloading. I have two 327 pistols, the Ruger 8 shot BH and a Taurus snubnose. They shoot very well and are as accurate as I can shoot...

It seems many are determined that the 327 is going to die out like the 357 Max. I would hate that because the cartridge certainly fills a niche for me. Since it appears that no one is going to make a rifle in 327 and since I have 3 rifles in 32-20 that will do everything a 327 will do.... I think a 32 caliber wildcat cartridge would be called for.

Something like a 357 necked down to shoot a .313 boolit. Brass would be easy to obtain. Dies could be coated for nonlubed sizing. Not sure of the amount of powder it would hold, but it should be more than the 327...

6pt-sika
01-06-2012, 01:26 PM
It seems many are determined that the 327 is going to die out like the 357 Max. I would hate that because the cartridge certainly fills a niche for me. Since it appears that no one is going to make a rifle in 327 and since I have 3 rifles in 32-20 that will do everything a 327 will do...



Back when I had the 327 SP-101 I also had no less then 4 Marlin's chambered for 32-20 and another Marlin for the 32 H&R MAG . IF I could have gotten into a 327 Federal in a MArlin rifle fairly cost efficient then I would have done so . So don't let having a trio of 32-20's hinder you :wink:

Old Goat Keeper
01-09-2012, 02:47 AM
IF you have or can get your hands on one of the very rare Marlin '94's in 32 H&R mag you can have it reamed out to .327 Federal for about $175 US. The problem withthat is that the Marlin 32 H&R rifles are expensive to buy! I have one and I am debating about doing that. Or as 6-point said getting a fairly common Marlin in 357 and having it rebarrelled. The .327 will do anythignthe 357 will do without beating youto deqth. Now I know I will get yelled at! LOL But until you shoot/use one don't knock that sweet lil' round.

T-o-m

6pt-sika
01-09-2012, 07:35 PM
IF you have or can get your hands on one of the very rare Marlin '94's in 32 H&R mag you can have it reamed out to .327 Federal for about $175 US. The problem withthat is that the Marlin 32 H&R rifles are expensive to buy! I have one and I am debating about doing that. Or as 6-point said getting a fairly common Marlin in 357 and having it rebarrelled. The .327 will do anythignthe 357 will do without beating youto deqth. Now I know I will get yelled at! LOL But until you shoot/use one don't knock that sweet lil' round.

T-o-m

While the 32 MAG is yours I would suggest you didn't run the chamber out . I think it's fair to assume that the run of 32 MAG levers they made a couple years ago will be the only ones they ever make . So as the years go on the prices should escalate !

I would also suggest if one takes a 1894 in 357 and wants to make a 327 out of it the easiest thing to do and more then likely my cost effecient would be to have the barrel reamed and relined .

Old Goat Keeper
01-11-2012, 01:02 AM
That is where I'm at now Craig! I can find me one in .357 WAT easier than I can find another 32 H&R.

T-o-m

btroj
01-11-2012, 04:32 AM
My 32-20 does all I want of it. I prefer a cartridge that has been around for over 100 years to one that seems dead after just a couple.

pdawg_shooter
01-12-2012, 03:02 PM
...and sometimes there is no supply when there is a demand:

Ruger .32 H&R Single-Six

Smith & Wesson Model 16 .32 H&R

Colt Python

Ruger #3

Nylon 66

These are all guns that seem to be bringing a price in used condition that would rival what they could be sold for new from the factory.

With the exception of the Python, good riddance.

bowfin
01-12-2012, 03:14 PM
Some, if not all, of these would not bring sufficient income if there was no shortage in the marketplace.

I am going to remain the optimist. If Smith & Wesson could bring back a whole line of revolvers to address the shortage in the marketplace, there is hope that a manufacturer could listen to the potential customers.