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milo14
12-30-2011, 10:18 PM
would like to find a 147gr mold with just one lube ring in round nose, or any other suggestion would help, shooting a 1911, will it function reliabily with something other than a rn, goining to shoot in compitition. thanks

Echo
12-30-2011, 10:28 PM
The standard old 38 Special RN from Lyman might work. 358311, I believe, and Lyman has been shortchanging on the molds, running the cherries too long and not renewing, just sharpening again & again, so you might luck out and get one that throws smaller than .358. might find one on eBay. It would be some heavier, about 155 IIRC.

Actually, it would be a good idea to slug your bbl to find the exact groove diameter, and size one thousandths over that diameter. You would have to check ensure the loaded round would feed. There might be a Lee RN that would work, too, but I'm not aware of it.

Bullet Caster
12-31-2011, 03:40 AM
Welcome to Cast Boolits, Milo14. I am also new to casting and reloading. I reload and cast for my 9mm using the Lee .356 124 grain TL mould. I don't plan on sizing 'cause the mould drops boollits at .356. I'll just tumble lube with Recluse's 40/40/10, Lee Alox/JPW(Johnstons Paste Wax)/Mineral Spirits. After slugging my bbl. I found that it is .356 so I won't size, just lube, reload and shoot 'em. BC

fredj338
12-31-2011, 03:35 PM
You are not likely to find a suitable RN config, they would load too long in most 9mm. If you just have to have one, gho to MountainMolds & design your own. You could certainly take any of the 158gr RN deisgns for the 38sp & size down, but they will be 158gr, not 147gr, & for anything but light loads. not much powder room left in the small 9mm case.
BTW, your 1911 should feed a truncated cone just fine & a 147gr easily runs in the 9mm. Look at the Lyman 147gr, it's an ogive FP, not a true RN, but should feed well in the 1911. http://www.lymanproducts.com/lyman/bullet-casting/mould-details.php?entryID=6

beagle
12-31-2011, 04:12 PM
Probably no RN designs of that weight. You might take a 158 grain RN mould and mill one band off the base and get there.

I have used both the Saeco 929 (144 grains) and the H & G #73 in a couple of Browning High Powers with good results. See Castpics/Articles/By Firearm/Cast in the 9mm High Power for my tinkering and load. Both of these are truncated designs but fed well for me./beagle

garym1a2
12-31-2011, 10:23 PM
Try this one, its 140gr, flat nose.

http://www.mp-molds.com/shopping/pgm-more_information.php?id=19&=SID

Jailer
12-31-2011, 11:19 PM
Try this one, its 140gr, flat nose.

http://www.mp-molds.com/shopping/pgm-more_information.php?id=19&=SID

A most excellent mold. I purchased one through here for a buddy of mine and he uses it for IDPA. It casts some nice boolits.

oso
12-31-2011, 11:37 PM
I like my old Lee 356-153-2R 6 Cav no longer produced but worth a search.
No one mentioned the still available Saeco 910 and 928.

seagiant
01-01-2012, 12:45 AM
Hi,
Once again I have to put the RCBS 9mm-124 TC up for consideration,it has worked VERY well in anything I used it in!

MtGun44
01-01-2012, 12:47 AM
OK, you are starting out with a somewhat difficult cartridge, right off the bat. The next thing
you are doing is choosing a WAY out of the norm boolit wt. You may well have success, but
unless there is some particularly important reason why you want such a heavy boolit, I would
move back into the normal boolit wt range for the cartridge, which is 115 to 125 gr. The 9mm
has been developed for about a century with these wts. Going "out of bounds" will make the
whole thing more difficult.

Here is a good look at the issues.

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=121607

Bill

GabbyM
01-01-2012, 01:03 AM
Magma makes a 145 gain RN listed with there 38 Super bullets.
I bought some over ten years ago and shot them in a 9mm. They did OK. Only ran at 940 fps. Like there 147 FN better for a 9mm. Without a machine to run a two cavity in I’d want a four or six cavity mould to keep up with a pistol.

Saeco makes a 145 And 150 grain RN listed for 38 Super.

For any of the heavy bullets in 9mm you’ll need to pick out some brass with an inside taper that will allow the deep seating. Or use a 38 Special expander to reach deeper.
The 9mm brass is a bit backwards as to what we are used to in brands. Usually Rem has thin case walls but the box I have of Rem 9mm the case walls thicken say you go deep. Fed and Speer , at least the boxes I have, allow the 147 FN or the 122 TC to seat. Lyman M die will open them up deep enough or now I’ve a powder through for my Dillon in 38/357 revolver.

If you can make power with a 122gr going 1,200 fps I’d suggest that route. P.O.I. is the wall I’ve run up against. I can make the Magma 147 FN run steady at 1,147 fps over a full book load of VV 3N38. With zero measurable case head expansion. However my sights are turned well to one side and it makes the pistol unpleasant to shoot. 16 to 18 pound recoil springs keep the brass in the vicinity. When you start generating 40 S&W recoil you’ll need the recoil spring they use in that frame when chambered in 40 S&W.

FirstBrit
01-01-2012, 12:31 PM
would like to find a 147gr mold with just one lube ring in round nose, or any other suggestion would help, shooting a 1911, will it function reliabily with something other than a rn, goining to shoot in compitition. thanks

As others have suggested the 147 gr. FN from Magma runs quite well in most European pistols like SIG 210-5, various H&K's and the CZ 75. Bullet works best with the slower powders like Longshot, VV- 3N37 or powders with similar burning rates. At the moment I'm using 4,0 gr. Longshot with overall cartridge length of 28,9 mm. in my Heckler & Koch P9S Sport. However, the cartridge is adequately accurate in the 6" barrel but not so in the shorter 4" barrel. It might be a case that the muzzle velocity is not high enough in the short barrel to stabilize this longer bullet. Bullets need to be fairly hard BHN !6 ( 92/6/2 alloy) works better than the BHN 10 ( 20:1 lead/tin mix).

Best regards and a happy New Year to everyone!

Adrian, Germany.

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