310 grn for 44 mag

[straightarrow]

I have some 310 grn cast that I would like to load for my Ruger Redhawk. I have Unique and 2400. Any suggestions

[btroj]

2400 will work fine. I don't have a manual handy to look up a load in.

Do you have any manuals that list 2400 with a 300 gr or so bullet?

[white eagle]

I use 17.5 gr 2400 w/300 Accurate boolit
cci 350's

[straightarrow]

I did finally find a couple loads on handloads.com. They were 13.5 grn of 2400 and 7.2 Unique

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Good thread I've been going to get a LEE 310.

[44man]

I use 296 with that boolit. 21.5 gr with a standard Fed 150 primer.
2400 will work but I don't get the accuracy.

[DragoonDrake]

I use 20grs of H110 with lee 434-310 and I really like how it shoots.

[sh00ter787]

i use 8gn of unique with the Lee 310 and "up to" 18gn of 2400 - that kicks a bit :D 17gn of 2400 is a more sensible load for me

[44man]

i use 8gn of unique with the Lee 310 and "up to" 18gn of 2400 - that kicks a bit :D 17gn of 2400 is a more sensible load for me
Come shoot my .500 JRH a few times and you will never say a .44 kicks again! :bigsmyl2: After, you can shoot the .44 behind your back, under your legs, over your head, etc. [smilie=w:
My .44 has been classed a "pop" gun where I ask if it really went off. :shock:
I shoot the .44 much, much better now after the big ones.

[saz]

Come shoot my .500 JRH a few times and you will never say a .44 kicks again! :bigsmyl2: After, you can shoot the .44 behind your back, under your legs, over your head, etc. [smilie=w:
My .44 has been classed a "pop" gun where I ask if it really went off. :shock:
I shoot the .44 much, much better now after the big ones.

I have noticed the same thing. I used to think my SBH was a hard kicker until I started working with my 500 Smith.
Now she is just a pussycat........

[pistolman44]

I only shoot the 310 grain in my Dan Wesson because it has a muzzle brake on the barrel. Too brutle in my other 44's. The powder I use is WC820. I won't list the load data I use because of liability. Put a round in a deer and it punched thru at 60yds.

[44man]

I only shoot the 310 grain in my Dan Wesson because it has a muzzle brake on the barrel. Too brutle in my other 44's. The powder I use is WC820. I won't list the load data I use because of liability. Put a round in a deer and it punched thru at 60yds.
Oh yeah, you won't stop it. My loads are not at max, not needed, just accuracy.
Even the RD 265 gr penetrated 33" of wet phone books with a moderate load. :mrgreen:

[DragoonDrake]

To the op. I missed that you said 2400 and unique. I do you use 14.5gr of 2400 with a brp 300 grain bullet. That is my unlimited ihmsa load.

[44man]

To the op. I missed that you said 2400 and unique. I do you use 14.5gr of 2400 with a brp 300 grain bullet. That is my unlimited ihmsa load.
I take it you shoot Youngstown. Maybe a few places in PA too. I can't remember the one club that shot white targets, even when there was snow on the ground. :groner:
Been years but I shot Youngstown, Ozark, Belfontaine, (spelling) Lima and some in PA. I shot Quantico and Piedmont.
I miss it but it became too expensive.
Tell me what it is like today.

[DragoonDrake]

I only shoot Tusco. I have not had time to drive to too many places. I shoot rifle sil at ridgway in PA though.

I have only been shooting both for two years now. I don't have any of the old time experience, but I must say I like it very much. For me the people make the sport. I have never had more helpful and friendly people than in IHMSA.

My first time at Rifle almost turned me away. Only one person was really willing to talk to me and he kept telling me to come back when I was shooting jacketed bullets.

Shoot me a pm and let me know if there is anything in particular that you wanted to know. I don't want to high-jack this thread.

[44man]

RIDGEWAY--YEAH, white IHMSA targets.
I will PM you but I don't think we can hi-jack much, good people.
Yes, a few in IHMSA too that would not talk, tight butts.
We used to torque some off because we laughed, cracked jokes, etc while we beat the pants off them. Too serious, no fun.
Important though that I made the .44 shoot so it has merit here. IHMSA can turn anyone into a better shooter. Avoid tight butts. So many will help and go far out of their way for anyone. Most are sportsmen, a few are out for themselves and ruin shoots. I have seen an archer smash an expensive bow on a tree because he lost.
This has relevance to a man asking about a boolit. IHMSA shooters really have answers since we shot 200 meters and many of us have gone to 500 meters.
We need to answer for the 310 gr boolit in the RH. I shot many RH's that friends owned and found H110 worked better while 296 was better in the S&W, SBH, BH and SRH. Don't ask, same powder.
Unique with a heavy boolit is not good. Get rid of initial pressure, slow the pressure curve. Try 2400 but I bet H110 will be better.
Use a standard primer like the Fed 150.

[DragoonDrake]

Ridgeway has used black targets everytime I have been there and they only shoot rifle sil now.
I have seen the type you spoke of in the ATA but only once in IHMSA, and others told me that it was an off day for this person with loss in the family.

I have yet to take my pistols past 200 meters but I have a few that I would be more than willing to try it with. I actually had bad luck with H110 in my contender (my unlimited gun), 2400 has performed much better for me. I also used CCI standard large pistol primers. I went back and forth with mag primers and 2400 and H110, I found about once every 8-10 shoots one round would shoot significantly higher (10 feet at 100 meters). Thinking it was me, I had a few people shoot a bank; they thankfully had the same experience.

After some suggestions and advise, I went back to the drawing board, cleaned up my reloading and brass habits, and did quite well my next time out.
I now watch for deformed/mis-filled bullets, brass gets clean primer pockets and I only use brass from the same lot.

I did a stint where I weighed the brass, but found that brass from the same lot had similar tension; while brass with the same wt could and would have different tension. I would sort out various tensions and found that seemed to have more impact on accuracy than brass wt.

Please nobody take this as holy writ for I have not been reloading cast for as long as others and this is on my limited experience.

[44man]

Yes, tension is my God. That might have been the shot way off at 100 meters.
I shot back in the 80's so they might have changed color.
Shooting white in the snow was crazy. I never hit any .22 targets because they were not to be seen. :bigsmyl2:

[DragoonDrake]

I did do an indoor 22 rim locations with black targets w/ black background. I think I hit 4 chickens and gave up.

[ebner glocken]

I use 296 with that boolit. 21.5 gr with a standard Fed 150 primer.
2400 will work but I don't get the accuracy.

That's gotta hurt. I use 20 grains and it seems a bit much in the model 29s, works well in my dan wesson and rugers.

What are you shooting that load in?

Ebner

[felix]

Late model 29s might take it for quite a while; early models drop down to 18.5 or switch to 4227 at 20. Jim, override me if you know better. It's just too easy to make that cylinder rotate freely by destroying the bolt mechanism, etc. The later models fixed that to a great extent. No, the gun, no matter the model, is not going to blow up. ... felix

[44man]

Late model 29s might take it for quite a while; early models drop down to 18.5 or switch to 4227 at 20. Jim, override me if you know better. It's just too easy to make that cylinder rotate freely by destroying the bolt mechanism, etc. The later models fixed that to a great extent. No, the gun, no matter the model, is not going to blow up. ... felix
They are safe because pressures with the heavy boolits are not more and most, even less then a hot 240 gr load.
It is RECOIL and inertia of parts. You can only harm the center unlocking pin in the cylinder by peening the end but it is an easy fix.
The cylinder stop has too light of a spring. You will not harm it but the design wants to move out of engagement from inertia to heavy recoil. Those are the only two things I found.
I cured one gun by inserting a tiny spring from a lock tumbler inside the factory cylinder stop spring. I could not find another replacement spring.
You would think the hand would hold the cylinder but it must bounce too.
The X frame .500 S&W has been known to double when the cylinder unlocked, turned backwards and hammer bounce set off the chamber OPPOSITE of rotation. Go to You tube and do a search to see it.
It really is a simple fix, a hard center pin in the cylinder and a stronger spring in the cylinder stop.
But you will not destroy the cylinder stop. It just swings forward out of engagement.
The enhanced version has not met everything and it is the luck of the draw as to whether it will take the recoil.
S&W will tell you it is operator error when the spring supplier is at fault. You sure do not want a 29 cylinder stop spring in a .500!
The hand spring can be stronger too but S&W wants a double action pull that is light so all springs are borderline. Even the hammer spring can fail to fire some primers.
I could make a S&W never fail with the right springs and better steel for the cylinder unlocking pin.

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My new LEE 310 mold arrived yesterday. Along with a .430 sizer, I have a LEE 240 SWCGC mold that I opened up to .435 and sized down to .432 for a Marlin. The cylinders in my SRH or .430. Hopping to get some 310 cast today.
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[161]

I bought a LEE 310 molds and a .430 Lee sizing kit to seat the gas checks with. Cast some Saturday and loaded 6 tonight with 2400. This mold has two crimp grooves I used the bottom one. The cylinder of my SRH is long enough. I assume the top groove is for when OAL is an issue??

What a nasty looking chunk a lead!!!
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