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Lloyd Smale
12-24-2011, 08:10 AM
http://www.lasc.us/Fryxell_Book_AboutAuthors.htm These two gentleman are probably the two most knowlageable caster i know of. I have nothing but respect for Glen and I am proud to call Rob a freind of mine. Hes not only a knowlegable bullet caster but a fantastic mold maker and custom gun maker. Im proud to have one of his guns that he made for me. A marlin 94 in 475 linebaugh. Not only is he talented but one hell of a good guy. This article is a good reference for any caster from beginner to the most experienced. Coolest thing is there sharing this knowlege for free.

cajun shooter
12-24-2011, 09:26 AM
I am 64 and have been to a lot of firearms schools and involved in the gun world since coming home in 1968 from the Army. I read everything I can put my hands on and anything written by Glenn is top notch. If he had chosen to become a book or magazine writer he would be a millionaire.
The guy is wonderful to share all of his information for free to the public.
When I first read about this book I had a huge brain vacum form as I could not think of who Ron Applegate was.
It hit me and I felt like a fool for not thinking of who he was. With these two guys teamed up it will surpass all other material written on the subject.
I decided to download it to my hard drive and after doing so I realized that I wanted a hard copy to be able to pick up any time I felt like reviewing a certain subject. So I now have the 187 pages all in a nice binder.
Merry Christmas

Marvin S
12-24-2011, 10:55 AM
That's all a must read, even printed some of it out.

ku4hx
12-24-2011, 11:27 AM
I found the Los Angeles silhouette club website a number of years ago and ever since it's been a reference of mine for a number of topics.

The casting section being the one I most often refer potential new casters to. Absolutely top notch info presented in a clear, simple and concise manner.

felix
12-24-2011, 11:30 AM
We are lucky to have Glen give reporting time stemming from his hobby. He is professional researcher in the metals field and as such documentation is a major duty requirement. He is in the publish or perish arena. ... felix

Olevern
12-24-2011, 11:36 AM
Great read, thanks for posting the link.
vern

RKJ
12-24-2011, 11:51 AM
I read the introduction and the fluxing section and really liked them. They seem like down to earth people and to be able to laugh at themselves (Glenn's guitar playing in the intro).

onceabull
12-24-2011, 11:54 AM
If Rob Applegate calls him friend, you have all you will need to know abut a mans character... Onceabull

Char-Gar
12-24-2011, 12:14 PM
Both Glen and Rob are first rate human beings and very knowledgeable on the subject of cast bullets and firearms in general.

It was a sad day when Rob stopped making bullet molds. They were be best made and finest finished I have ever seen. I have a couple and they are almost too pretty to use.

Lloyd Smale
12-24-2011, 06:10 PM
Amen to that they were almost pretty enough to hang around your wifes neck!
Both Glen and Rob are first rate human beings and very knowledgeable on the subject of cast bullets and firearms in general.

It was a sad day when Rob stopped making bullet molds. They were be best made and finest finished I have ever seen. I have a couple and they are almost too pretty to use.

contender1
12-24-2011, 10:36 PM
I will say that I looked at that book online a few months ago. It was an easy decision to just print it out, put it all in plastic sleeves, and a 3 ring binder. I have read it twice already. It is excellent. I've dabbled at casting for about 15 years now, and I learned a lot out of it. Lots of good history too!

samcolt87
12-25-2011, 12:26 AM
will look it over soon! sounds good!

cbrick
12-25-2011, 12:34 AM
Rob is one of Glen's closest friends.

Here is the link to the pdf version for the entire book.

From Ingot To Target (http://www.lasc.us/Fryxell_Book_textonly2.pdf)

Rick

BulletFactory
12-25-2011, 12:41 AM
http://www.lasc.us/Fryxell_Book_textonly2.pdf


ETA looks like cbrick beat me to it.

Hang Fire
12-25-2011, 03:50 AM
Many thanks for posting link.

Got started on it and read through without a break.

Been in this game for many years and found this technical but entertaining at the same time.

Found his two methods for making hollow point bullet molds interesting and struck upon an idea I need to pursue as to doing it more simple yet.

Lefty SRH
12-25-2011, 06:07 AM
I have that book completely printed out and sitting close to my loading bench.

44man
12-25-2011, 09:40 AM
I agree, real knowledge about cast is hard to find elsewhere.
I have a question for Lloyd---how many shoulder pads do you need with a Marlin .475??? [smilie=1:

MikeS
12-25-2011, 10:15 AM
The 'normal' recommendation is for folks new to casting to read one of the Lyman cast manuals, but after going thru the 3rd edition of the Lyman book, and Glen & Rob's book, I would say that it's a much better reference than the Lyman manual. Not to mention that the price is right! :)

GaryN
12-25-2011, 02:46 PM
I very much appreciate all the work and those who helped get From Ingot to Target put on the web. It is my favorite cast boolit reference. I have been reading cast boolit books and manuals for 30 years. I have not been a member here for too long but I have learned a lot in a short period of time. It's much easier to read the correct way or the faster way to do things than to learn through trial and error.

Shuz
12-25-2011, 03:10 PM
Thank you Glen and Rob for writing such an informative book, and Lloyd for making us aware of it! What a treasure of information!

Lloyd Smale
12-25-2011, 03:48 PM
It aint really bad but then the stoutest load i shoot is 22 grains of 2400 and a 400. Its mostly shot with a 360wfn with that charge as thats what it shoots the best. I shoot it more on a 480 level. Rob told me when he built it that the treaded area between the barrel and the reciever ends up a bit thin and he said not to shoot a constant diet of hot ammo. Even at that level its up into 475 max velocitys out of a pistol and it would kill anything and its dropped a couple pigs and a buffalo where they stood. recoil out of the little 17 inch gun is about like mid range 4570s in a guide gun.
I agree, real knowledge about cast is hard to find elsewhere.
I have a question for Lloyd---how many shoulder pads do you need with a Marlin .475??? [smilie=1:

44man
12-26-2011, 10:11 AM
That sounds reasonable. I don't think I would want to shoot my revolver loads from the thin metal. :holysheep

Wilson
12-26-2011, 10:56 PM
Thanks for that link. I just started casting hollow points last week and had questions about alloys, hardness and expansion. All were answered in the articles. I've killed several animals this year with .44 cal 310 gr FP bullets out of my .444 Handi. Everything dropped like a rock on the spot, but I'd like to try HPs next year and am looking for a mold. The author likes the Lyman Devastator so I'll probably start with that one.

Hang Fire
12-28-2011, 03:15 PM
Many thanks for posting link.

Got started on it and read through without a break.

Been in this game for many years and found this technical but entertaining at the same time.

Found his two methods for making hollow point bullet molds interesting and struck upon an idea I need to pursue as to doing it more simple yet.


Followed up on Idea mentioned, following is heavy on pics.

Having both a mini lathe and mill, (for around 4-500 bucks each, these tools are hard to beat for small machine work) thought the making of a hollow point mold could be simplified farther.

Found that with a couple wraps of electrician’s tape, could get the bullet to run true chucked up lightly in lathe. I kept a check on run out with dial indicator when drilling.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/TANSTAAFL-2/P1010291-1.jpg

Started hole with center drill to insure true.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/TANSTAAFL-2/P1010292-1.jpg

Then followed with a 3/16” drill.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/TANSTAAFL-2/P1010293-1.jpg

Result was a hole drilled true on center to the bullet.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/TANSTAAFL-2/P1010294-1.jpg

Positioned mold square in vise and aligned so a 3/16” rod could float freely in hole, then locked table down.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/TANSTAAFL-2/P1010298.jpg

Then drilled hole in mold flooded with light oil, withdrawing drill frequently and blowing out hole with compressed air.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/TANSTAAFL-2/P1010299.jpg

Made hollow point tool.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/TANSTAAFL-2/P1010300-1.jpg

Drilled and tapped mold block for 10-24 screw with large flat head for latching in place.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/TANSTAAFL-2/P1010302.jpg

End result, what looks like a very good hollow point mold, now to get it out to shoot and see how it performs.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/TANSTAAFL-2/P1010303.jpg