44 mag bullet or for the 44-40?

[barnabus]

Could this bullet work for a 44 mag revolver? If not why not. Buddy of mine isist on a 200 grain bullet for his S&W 29

RCBS BULLET MOULD .44-200-FN 595 (82036)
.44-40, .428" LAM Sizer, Top Punch #595

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[barefooter175]

I shoot several boolits in both my .44-40s and .44 Mags. As long as it is properly sized and the bullet results in a correct COL, it will work.

James

[barnabus]

is this considered a semi wadcutter? Im a newbie so go easy.

[Blammer]

no, I'd consider that one a round flat nose or a flat nose

[woody1]

barnabus, I'd call that boolit a RF, round flat. It's designed for the 44 WCF and is a dandy IMO for it. I have one. That said, no reason if wouldn't work for a 44 Mag., big IF, it casts big enough. If your mag needs .430, mine wouldn't cast large enough. Regards, Woody

[GabbyM]

The Saeco 200 grain truncated cone bullet is a good one.
Available in a four cavity that will feed the hungriest of revolvers.

I have the Saeco 200 grain RNFP which has a .320" meplate and shoots as good as I can.

For a general use round I have a 195 grain full wad cutter I load to 1,000 fps. For dropping big game a 240 to 255 grain bullet is nice but they’ll beat you up blasting beer cans.

[cajun shooter]

That bullet and others that have the same type of design are known as RNFP in the Cowboy SASS competition and others who shoot the older guns, both original and reproductions.
The 200 FN by RCBS is listed as a rifle bullet for the 44-40 with a cast diameter of .428
The original 44-40 which debuted in 1873 as Winchesters round for it's new 1873 and the answer for Colt's 45 Colt revolver.
The rifles had a bore of .425-.426 at that time. Several companies such as Ruger and Marlin choose to make the 44-40 guns that they made with .430-.432 barrels so that they could use the same bullet as the 44 magnums.
The correct size that was made by Winchester is .427 as it is their cartridge. RCBS also makes a revolver bullet that is said to be for 44-40, 44 Russian, 44 Special, and 44 magnum according to the bullet charts. That is quite a stretch as those guns could be .426-.433 in barrel size.
I shoot the 44-40 in SASS competition with 100% real black Powder. The standard bullets as the 200 Fn and 200 CM by RCBS will not hold enough lube to be fired in a gun with BP. The original bullet was the Lyman 42798 that was different from the one made today. It had larger lube grooves and held more lube.
The mould that I had in the 200 FN dropped at .428-.429 and would be way too small for any 44 magnum that I have owned and shot. Sorry about the long answer but I'm a huge fan of the 44-40 cartridge. Later David

[fredj338]

It could if it casts large enough. The issue is the mold is likely to throw them @ 0.428"-0.429", mine does. That will be too small for the cast majority of 44mags. The 44-40 is 0.427" & the bullets like to be 0.428"-0.429". Like Cajun, I used to shoot a 44-40 in CAS, quit that when they started not letting you pick up your brass.

[MtGun44]

As said, the issue is that .44 40 std size is .427 groove and .44 mag std is .429. The size
you want to use in a revolver is the throat diam or throat +.001 or sometimes they want
even +.002. So it all depends on what youre .44-40 and .44 mag guns throats measure at
compared to what the mold will cast.

Bill

[Olevern]

As already said, it is all about as cast diameter and your bore size. Could be useful, might be leading grief.

[cajun shooter]

Fredj338, I have been shooting SASS for about 4 years now. Tried to shoot in 1997 and a bad back kept me down until I had a pain pump implanted in my body.
My point to you is that I shoot at three local club matches matches a month a month and they all allow you to retrieve your brass.
At a lot of bigger matches that you must travel to then they vary with the rules. Some of them have Boy Scouts pick up and return your brass. Then you have the large matches that have 400 or more shooters that enter to shoot.
They will have posses of 27 shooters and if they stopped after each shooter to pick up brass then the skies would be dark before they finished the stages for that day.
You can pass this up by not shooting in these matches.
The only matches that keep brass are the large ones with entry fees above $100 and as I stated I don't know of nor have I ever heard of any local club matches that have such a practice.
Come on back and have the fun and enjoy yourself. I would not shoot if they kept my 44-40 brass as I would be broke in short order.