Rem 1917 sporter

[Shooter6br]

Picked up a Rem 1917( not sure it is a Remington) 30-06 with steel Weaver 2.5 scope. Barrel is 20 in( original barrel cut down) Magizine looks shortened ( hump is gone) Not sure 5 or 6 groove Stamp on barrel is 6 13( date made?) If so not a war model. After market trigger( grooved shoe) Have pics but not on my home computer now ( at work) Any good 30-06 cast loads? Thanks Pices to come:lol:

[Shooter6br]

Here is a great article http://www.odcmp.org/503/rifle.pdf

[Four Fingers of Death]

M17s will be marked with a W (Winchester) or Remington or Eddystone (also a Remington factory located at Eddystone). Remington also sold the rifle after WW1 as a sporter. I think it was a model 30 or something.

Great old rifles, a bit big and homely, but they usually perform with just about anything.

The mag proabbly hasn't been reduced in capacity. The customisers used to cut the floorplate, flatten it, then re-weld it and fit a bigger (HaHa! like it needed to be bigger, lol) to match the straightened out floorplate.

M17s and P14s are like Chinese food. Pretty soon after buying one, you want another!

[Shooter6br]

Made in June 1918 Hopefully here are the picss

[30calflash]

Picked up a Rem 1917( not sure it is a Remington) 30-06 with steel Weaver 2.5 scope. Barrel is 20 in( original barrel cut down) Magizine looks shortened ( hump is gone) Not sure 5 or 6 groove Stamp on barrel is 6 13( date made?) If so not a war model. After market trigger( grooved shoe) Have pics but not on my home computer now ( at work) Any good 30-06 cast loads? Thanks Pices to come:lol:

Nice looking sporter you have there!

You mentioned that the barrel date was 6/13. It could have been rebarreled with a Springfield 03 barrel. Should shoot well. A nice winter loading project.

[Ed in North Texas]

M17s will be marked with a W (Winchester) or Remington or Eddystone (also a Remington factory located at Eddystone). Remington also sold the rifle after WW1 as a sporter. I think it was a model 30 or something.

Great old rifles, a bit big and homely, but they usually perform with just about anything.

M17s and P14s are like Chinese food. Pretty soon after buying one, you want another!

Model 30 is exactly right.

[Four Fingers of Death]

Thanks Ed, Nice looking rifle shooter6BR!

[frnkeore]

And this is a Model 30. A lot more graceful than a P14/M17. The action was used for short and long cartridge a like. Mines a 30 Remington caliber.

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[Four Fingers of Death]

Cool looking rifle frnkeore!

[Gtek]

Model 1917 and Model 1903 would have barrel dates removed being cut back to twenty inches. Either /or, love them, hate them. I like them and have more than a couple Mil dress and sporter. They can handle anything you can stand touching off! Building 45-70 on 14 action now. Gtek

[Shooter6br]

According to serial number it was madre June 1918. War production stopped in Nov 1918 due to the war ending. I live about 1 hr away from Eddystone Pa. I think maybe the rifle never went to war. The date on the barrel may read 6 18 not 6 13. Weight of rifle is a hefty 8.5 lbs even with 20 in barrel

[Shooter6br]

here is a great article http://www.odcmp.org/503/rifle.pdf

[PatMarlin]

That is a nice looking eddystone Shooter6br.

I still have mine as it was my first deer rifle I bought myself. Has a big old wide angle Weaver on it. I like the idea of making a 45-70 out of it. Hmm, just may do that. I don't need another 30-06'.

[Four Fingers of Death]

That is a nice looking eddystone Shooter6br.

I still have mine as it was my first deer rifle I bought myself. Has a big old wide angle Weaver on it. I like the idea of making a 45-70 out of it. Hmm, just may do that. I don't need another 30-06'.

The 458WM would be an easier conversion I'm thinking. Probably feed better as well. Easily loaded to 45/70 levels.

[Four Fingers of Death]

here is a great article http://www.odcmp.org/503/rifle.pdf

Great article, Thanks.

Not trying to hi-jack the thread, but I always heard that Alvin York was allowed to carry his 03 because he was an amazing running shot and disliked the peep on the M17. When he was issued with the Enfield his hit rate went down as he was losing the target in the sides of the peep. I was always told he was re-issued with an 03 while the rest of his battalion carried M17s.

[nicholst55]

My Winchester 1917 sporter in .458 Lott should be waiting for me when I return to the States. The gunsmith, a good friend, has had the blasted thing for nearly four years, so I sincerely hope it's waiting for me!

[PatMarlin]

An owner of a gunshop I go to goes on African Safari hunts and he makes his rifles on the M1917 action, his favorite for larger calibers. He could take anything he would like, and that's his choice.

[LAH]

Love that rifle.

[madsenshooter]

Can't see the top of that front band good enough in your pic frnkeore, but if there's a male dovetail on top, I might be the front anchor point for a Miller Kodiak Dreammount. A big leaf spring affair, oh, I have pic of one on a Krag, though it uses a different anchor point, they made bands as the anchor point for several rifles!

[Four Fingers of Death]

That Krag looks the goods! Great cast boolit rifle.

[Buckshot]

Great article, Thanks.

Not trying to hi-jack the thread, but I always heard that Alvin York was allowed to carry his 03 because he was an amazing running shot and disliked the peep on the M17. When he was issued with the Enfield his hit rate went down as he was losing the target in the sides of the peep. I was always told he was re-issued with an 03 while the rest of his battalion carried M17s.

..............Doesn't really matter to me, or other folks either, but a lot simply want it to have been a 1903 :-) Either rifle was capable of the work when a RIFLEMAN who knew his rifle was pulling the trigger. I doubt someone like York would have put himself into a situation (like a war) without KNOWING what his rifle would do whether he liked it or not. I have both a 1903A1 and a M17 Remington. Both shoot very well, but I DO prefer the Springfield of the two (and not because of the sights) but wouldn't feel unarmed by any means with the Remington.

................Buckshot

[quasi]

here's a couple of mine converted by BSA

BSA Model D .303

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s320/buckbrush1961/IMG_1595.jpg

BSA Model D .270

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s320/buckbrush1961/UG37409BSAright.jpg

[Four Fingers of Death]

I have a sporter M17 it has a stock that is almost identical to the 270 featured above. but has homemade checkering and no sights (and an original 2 groove barrel in 3006). It has Weaver style bases.

That one is interesting as it has checkering on the grip, but not on the forend. I thought originally that the checkering may have been done by an owner, but both above are the same. Mine may have been a cheaper model with bare barrel and stock and mil sup barrel. Mine was an Eddystone.
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k228/4fingermick/Bolt%20Rifles/SporterisedM171.jpg

UPDATE: Looking at it mine is a bit different, it has a thumb cut out, but I suppose and owner that went to the trouble of checkering the stock (albiet an amateurish effort, but functional effort), is well capable of cutting a thumb groove.

Mine's big, plain and homely and has a cheap 8x scope which is completely unsuitable, but I kinda like it.

[quasi]

here is an old BSA add

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s320/buckbrush1961/55555.jpg

[Four Fingers of Death]

D'Oh! I wasn't looking hard enough, I didn't notice the re-jigged bolt handle! Mine is obviously not a BSA rebuild at all. I had a really cool female boss just before I retired. She used to call a cursory look or search as a 'boy look.' I worked full time for 46years, she was the sharpest, best boss I ever had. Working for her for eighteen months before I retired was like being rewarded for being a good, hard working employee all my adult life.

I will have to dust that old rifle off and go shoot it!

[Shooter6br]

Range report: 5 shoot 1/2 group at 50 yrds with Lee .311 160 gc TL with GC.( used for SKS) 13 g Unique .Used the Weaver K 2.5 scope. Putting Weaver K4 on as soon as i get it form Evil Bay Like the gun to keep "vintage" look

[Shooter6br]

Anyone use the Lee C185 .312 in 30-06 "American Enfield: M1917 I use the Lee TL 160 .312 sized to .311 with good affect. I hear the M1917 uses a barrel with .311 bore(303 Brit) not .308

[Shooter6br]

M1917 (made 6/1918) Eddystone

[Char-Gar]

Great article, Thanks.

Not trying to hi-jack the thread, but I always heard that Alvin York was allowed to carry his 03 because he was an amazing running shot and disliked the peep on the M17. When he was issued with the Enfield his hit rate went down as he was losing the target in the sides of the peep. I was always told he was re-issued with an 03 while the rest of his battalion carried M17s.

I believe the article to be correct. A movie was made of Alvin York's early life and exploits in WWI staring Gary Cooper. In the movie Cooper used an 03 Springfield, but the real life York used a P-17. The P-17 was used by more American troops in that war than the 03 Springfield, due to supply.

When I was young, the P-17s were plentiful and cheap ($25) as most of us wanted 03s. I had several of the P-17s, but never managed to hang on to one. The P-17 was awkward and clumsy compared to the 03, but they shot good enough.

13 years ago, I walked into a pawn shop in Deming New Mexico and recognized the bottom metal of either a P-14 or P-17 in the rifle rack. It turned out to be a good unmessed with Winchester P-17 with a bright shiny bore. The price was $125.00 I bought it. I still have it, but have never got around to firing it. I will put that on my t00 do list this next year. I did decopper the bore, before I put it up.

[Four Fingers of Death]

M1917 (made 6/1918) Eddystone

We had to wait awhile for those pics, Shooter6br, but it was worth it, great looking rifle.