Got me a Rolling Block!

[rbertalotto]

I picked up a nice Pedersoli Rolling Block in 45-70 this week. Came with a Tasco Reproduction scope and a Soule Tang Sight with windage adjustable front sight. Sights have never been installed. Still in the boxes.

This now completes my "Three Kings" collection.........1874 Sharps, 1885 High-Wall and Remington Rolling Block.........Now I just need to find a few buffalo to try them out on!

http://images112.fotki.com/v386/photos/2/36012/10262912/DSC_3909-vi.jpg

http://images56.fotki.com/v371/photos/2/36012/10262912/DSC_3923-vi.jpg

http://images61.fotki.com/v777/photos/2/36012/10262912/DSC_3927-vi.jpg

http://images61.fotki.com/v219/photos/2/36012/10262912/DSC_3914-vi.jpg

http://images44.fotki.com/v220/photos/2/36012/10262912/DSC_3921-vi.jpg

Lots more images here:
http://public.fotki.com/Rbertalotto/things-that-go-bang/pedersoli-rolling-block/

[Mooseman]

I have the Almost Exact same rifle in 50-140 Sharps with the same scope...I Love it ! Now if I could just Draw a Buffalo tag...LOL
Good Score.
Rich

[rbertalotto]

Mooseman, Can you look on the side of the receiver and see if it says "Cat 3516"?

I'm trying to establish exactly what I have here and no one has seen a straight stock with a pewter cap. It is not listed anywhere in current or past Pedersoli literature.

[bigted]

rbertalotto...nice find...congratulations i bet it will be a fun shooter and provide many an hour of frustration and pleassure both.

did you ever get your browning to shoot?

[Buckshot]

.................The brass triggerguard points to an older Pedersoli. The pewter nosecap may have been done by the PO, or he had it done after his purchase. I also do not believe I ever recall seeing a Pedersoli RB with a brass pin retainer plate? Regardless all that, it is a very fine looking rifle.

...............Buckshot

[Mooseman]

No...Mine is not Marked like that and I have no Pewter endcap. Mine has the brass trigger guard and Brass pin retainer plate, Case color receiver and a 26xx serial number.
Brass Butt cap and brass barrel band.
Cat. 3516 is the Catalog number (or what we call a Model number)
Yours has no barrel Band ??? Hmmm
Mine is a Navy Arms built by Pedersoli...has both names on it.
Rich

[StrawHat]

My Navy Arms/Pedersoli dates from the 1970s. It has the brass guard and butt but a steel retainer plate.

Yours is the first brass guarded rolling Block i have seen with a tapered octagon barrel. Most of the ones I have encountered were either half round or full octagon. Looks like someone may have done a very nice bit of customizing.

(A couple hours later) I have just looked at photos of my Rolling Block as it came from Navy Arms and it had the brass retainer. I must have "improved"it at some point. I have a second RB also with the brass retainer. I plan to rebarrel this one to 50-70.

[StrawHat]

...I picked up a nice Pedersoli Rolling Block in 45-70 this week. Came with a Tasco Reproduction scope and a Soule Tang Sight with windage adjustable front sight. Sights have never been installed. Still in the boxes.

This now completes my "Three Kings" collection.........1874 Sharps, 1885 High-Wall and Remington Rolling Block.........Now I just need to find a few buffalo to try them out on!...

Nice looking rolling block. You need to get the original 45-70 to round out your collection, a Trapdoor.

[Mooseman]

Here is Mine...
38423

38424

38425

38426

38427

[rbertalotto]

"Note to self............."

Start looking for a Trap Door!


Oh, BTW, I have a "Double Rifle" in 45-70 also........Love that cartridge!

http://images108.fotki.com/v613/photos/2/36012/9695081/DSC_26811-vi.jpg

And a custom 1895 Marlin in 45-70...........:p

http://images45.fotki.com/v153/photos/2/36012/9556651/DSC_2500-vi.jpg

[Ed in North Texas]

Just missed a nice NY State Militia .50-70. The other bidder had more money than I. Oh well...

[StrawHat]

..."Note to self............."

[QUOTE=rbertalotto;1499098] ...Start looking for a Trap Door!...

While replicas are available (US and Italian) I find the originals are not that expensive and often have good shootable bores. The 45-70 was available from Springfield Arsenal in several different Models. The "preferred" is the 1884 with the Buffington sight. I have an 1873 (built in 1878) and have found the origianl sight adequate for the purpose. At some point, I will cobble together another Trapdoor, this one a long range deal, and use a better sight.


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Oh, BTW, I have a "Double Rifle" in 45-70 also........Love that cartridge!...

I built a 45-70 double from a Belgian 12 gauge double. It was okay, but it got heavy after a while. If I ever do another one, I will start with a 20 guage.


...And a custom 1895 Marlin in 45-70...........:p

The Marlin is a good rifle. Usually a bit more accurate than the Winchester and often a lot lighter. If I were to need a lever gun in 45-70, the Marlin Anniversery Rifle is the one I would try to find.

I have had fun with the 45-70 for nealy 40 years. Springfields, Mausers, Enfields, Rugers, Remingtons, Winchesters, Marlins, Peabodys, Ballards, I have shot a lot of them. Af them all, I prefer the older ones and keep my loads to blackpowder as I do not see an advantage to the "super 45-70" loads. The original is still the best for my purposes.

The 45-70 was and is a great cartridge. I am only now finding something better... the 50-70!

[rbertalotto]

Oh, I also forgot.......I'm still looking for a Siamese Mauser to build a bolt action 45-70.........Then the only think I'd be missing is a BFR!

[racer102]

I too have the same gun and would like some info. I have mine equiped with a RHO 6X scope with 2 crosshairs on Malcom style mounts that we have machined to accept the spring and then blued all to match. this gun is a tack driver and I just love spending money shooting it

[EDG]

Oh, I also forgot.......I'm still looking for a Siamese Mauser to build a bolt action 45-70.........Then the only think I'd be missing is a BFR!

Try to find a Remington Lee in 45-70. It is original about probably a better investment in than a Siamese Mauser.

[Ed in North Texas]

Well, since this thread has been resurrected, I have to note that I did find a NY State Militia model Remington RB. Shoots like a dream, though I have to say that I have a problem with sights designed for young eyes, but I won't permanently alter an original rifle. I found a late Number 1 aperture rear sight, now I just need to get screws with threads which fit the NYSM, and heads which fit the sight, and see if it will work out.

Ed

[MikeS]

Well, I'll resurrected this thread once more. I just bought (not in my possession yet) an 1887 rolling block from a forum member here. It has a half round / half octagon barrel in 45/70. That's why I've been going thru looking for more info on what I got. Here's a picture of it:


http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b74/ModocWrangler/Sale%20stuff/Salestuff004_zpsfef969d6.jpg

How can I tell if this one was a military one that's been sporterized, or if it came from the factory this way?

[rbertalotto]

Since I started this thread I should bring everyone up to date.....:grin:

My 45-70 habit now includes:

1886 Winchester Take Down
1873 H&R Trapdoor Carbine
1873 H&R Trapdoor Officers Model
1874 Pedersoli Sharps
1885 Winchester BPCR
1895 Marlin (Custom Rebarrel)
Shotgun Double Rifle conversion

Gotta love the old Government cartridge!

Many pictures in the photo section here:
www.rvbprecision.com

[Ed in North Texas]

Well, I'll resurrected this thread once more. I just bought (not in my possession yet) an 1887 rolling block from a forum member here. It has a half round / half octagon barrel in 45/70. That's why I've been going thru looking for more info on what I got. Here's a picture of it:

How can I tell if this one was a military one that's been sporterized, or if it came from the factory this way?

Good looking rifle. While the odds are that it is a build on a military action, it is worth trying to find out for sure (a factory sporter would be worth a whole lot more). I'd try the Remington Society forum with your question.

Ed

[MikeS]

Well, now that I have the rifle in my hands, it raises even more questions. I know the barrel was put on the action outside of the factory. In fact, while the barrel is marked Remington, I don't think the action is a Remington action. The only markings on the outside of the action is the date 1887 with a proof mark that kind of looks like a crown above it, with a couple of letters that don't look like normal letters, but rather very stylized ones. When I took the wood off the rifle, there are some numbers on the front edge of the action (normally covered by the forearm), as well as some other numbers on the rear tangs of the action. I took pictures of these numbers, but don't recall what they were off hand. If anyone's interested, I'll post the pictures. The person I bought it from insists that it's made by Remington as he has another one with similar markings that was an Egyptian contract rifle made by Remington. I thought that all Remington made rolling blocks had Remington's name on the upper tang, this one has nothing there.

EDIT: Ok, after doing a few internet searches I'm 95% sure what I have is in fact a spanish made rolling block. The markings over the date are AR O which means it was made at the Spanish arsenal at Oviedo. On the website where I found this info they have pictures of a rolling block with identical markings to mine (other than the date was different), and also with a firing pin retractor, only it was a different style than my rifle has, but then it's also 11 years older than mine, so that could explain it. Now to do some more digging, and see what the internet rolling block experts have to say about the spanish made ones.