CZ 52 and lead.

[Freightman]

I pulled all the military surplus ammo I had down as I was having one in eight or more that I had to hit more than once. I then loaded the bullets into good cases, but not being one to waist anything I looked at the berdan cases. Well the primer didn't look to be seated good so I re-seated the empty cases and loaded them back up but with a 93gr LEE boolit loaded over 11 gr of WC820 which is = to AA#9 per LEE data. suppose to be 1700fp + but isn't it is more like 1550 fps + shot 100 with good accuracy at 25yds had not a one FTF so re-seating the primer was right. Even at that I had no leading and really the barrel was almost as clean as it was to start with. I will have to clean the barrel as the primers are corrosive. So when you pull the surplus down because of FTF re-seat and use the cases lot more economical and saves your good primers for another time. I wouldn't try to seat the loaded cases for safety reasons, might never have a problem but it would make me nervous.

[9.3X62AL]

F-man, that was a healthy load in that pistol!

As long as the boolits fit the throats and barrels, leading has not been a problem in any of my 30 Mauser or 7.62 x 25 pistols. Run any faster than 1100 FPS, and any load will be louder than Hell's Own Drum Line--but flat-shooting and pretty darn accurate. One load that works SUPERBLY in my CZ-52 is 7.7 grains of AA-7 under Lyman #311419, a 92 grain flatpoint with gas check. Jackrabbits HATE IT, and ground squirrels go all to pieces over it. Wear plugs AND muffs.

[Freightman]

Not any pressure signs and it is below the starting load according to LEE. I am going back to unique and around 1100fps, my hand gets tired with these. Use the WC820 in my Blackhawk 357.

[9.3X62AL]

My lot of WC-820 acts like AA-9, and 12.5 grains of that fuel in 357 Magnum gives Lyman #358156 1225 FPS in my 4" 686. The CZ-52 is capable of running 85 grainers well past 1700 FPS, just don't shoot the loads in fault zones or you'll set off earthquakes with the muzzle report--and have to send out 3-day patrols to locate fired brass.

If you have the time and oppurtunity--and sufficient numbers of jackrabbits locally--it is fairly easy to whack two rabbits with one round. My pistol ejects at about 85* to the right, and through careful sighting and range estimation one critter can be dispatched with the bullet while the second gets taken out by the ejected casing.

[Piedmont]

Al, Is the 7.65 Para noticeably louder than the 9mm Luger? I know you own both and I've had a 7.65 itch for a long time but never scratched it.

[Freightman]

You sure have to make sure that no one is to your right, might be a liability problem.

[9.3X62AL]

Al, Is the 7.65 Para noticeably louder than the 9mm Luger? I know you own both and I've had a 7.65 itch for a long time but never scratched it.

Noticeably so. 30 Luger loads running 85 grain XTPs at 1200 FPS barked more loudly than Speer Gold Dot +P 124 grain 9mm from the same Ruger P-89X (1225 FPS). Now, you want some canyonland reverberations......put the Ruger's 9mm recoil spring in place with the 30 Luger barrel, and run those same 85 grain XTPs to 1500 FPS. Rated-X amounts of AA-7 will asccomplish that, and brass stays nearby. Well, kind of. The report will put a 30 Carbine Blackhawk to shame. Connect on a jackrabbit with said load, and they get spread out pretty comprehensively.

[CLAYPOOL]

Lots of surplus ammo for C Z's was loaded as sub gun ammo. They were designed with that roller locking system to be tough. But as all ways use cation. I had a pile of ammo from a large Dist. from Floida (sp). I didn't check it out before selling to some neighbors a few years back. He commented that they shot good even with those "SPLITS" down the sides of the cases. I sent it all bac and even demanded my shipping. No problem....but....

[Who's this Guy ?]

I wonder if surplus ammo with primers not seated all the way would not be a problem in submachine guns chambered in 7.62x25 that fire from an open bolt and slam home?