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Dragoon 45
12-03-2011, 05:17 PM
Saw this rifle for a second time at a gun show today. It is a Swedish Rolling Block that the seller claims is a .45-65. I have looked through all my references and can not find a .45-65. Any one ever heard of a .45-65?

Cartridges of the World does not reference a .45-65. None of Mike Venturino's books that I have mention it.

Could this be some kind of metric caliber?

Thanks.

old turtle
12-03-2011, 05:42 PM
Might be 11.4 x 51R Danish Remington. I think a chamber cast is the only way to tell. Sweden Denmark and the Dutch all used Rolling Blocks I think.

Mk42gunner
12-03-2011, 10:09 PM
A chamber cast is a wise idea on as lot of older rifles, not just rolling blocks.

I have never heard of a .45-65 either; if you are lucky, it will take a shortened .45-70 case.

Robert

Dragoon 45
12-04-2011, 12:46 AM
I am thinking about buying it, but I don't want to buy something I don't know what it is.

It has been rebarreled from what I can see, so I don't think it is in any of the Nordic metric chamberings.

Chill Wills
12-04-2011, 01:45 AM
Check to see if it is a 40 cal and not 45. Maybe he corn-fuzed 40-65 with 45-65.

The 40 v 45 check is an easy one.

Good luck on that one.

georgewxxx
12-12-2011, 07:25 PM
"Might be 11.4 x 51R Danish Remington." Almost, I believe it's the 11.7X51R AKA 45 Danish. It's a short fat 45-70 case.

Dragoon 45
12-13-2011, 12:31 AM
"Might be 11.4 x 51R Danish Remington." Almost, I believe it's the 11.7X51R AKA 45 Danish. It's a short fat 45-70 case.

I ended up passing on the rifle. Not knowing exactly what it was chambered for, made up my mind not to buy it. If it was the 45 Danish, I would have thought the seller would have marked it correctly, instead of marking it as something that nobody references it as. There were no markings anywhere on the barrel that I could find to indicate what it was chambered in.

georgewxxx
12-13-2011, 09:26 AM
All those metric Scandinavian rifles tend to be pricey, and a lot of them get passed off as 50-70, 45-70 etc. None of those I've seen had caliber markings anywhere, unless it was done after importing. A friend brought over a 11mm Danish that was given to him last year and we started shooting it with light 45-70 cast loads and it shot well, but the cases expanded more than he felt exceptable, so he promptly got rid of it. It's like shooting a .22 long rifle in a .22 magnum chamber. It works but it's not quite right. If it bothers you like that the one at the gun show, you did the right thing by passing on it.