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leadbutt

11-22-2011, 08:39 PM

KK. I have my tumbler working and am using untreated walnut. Had the brass running for bout 8 hrs total now and alot of it has cleaned up alot but some pcs havent done as well as the others. Would brass polish clean out the insides better then just untreated media? Would i need an ultrasonic cleaner for that? Should i get another tumbler so i could have one treated media and one not? Should i just let the brass run a lil bit longer? Any imput would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

L. Bottoms

Ickisrulz

11-22-2011, 09:24 PM

8 hours is way beyond the length of time most people tumble their brass. If you are using a vibe cleaner, 2-3 hours should do it. If it's a rotating deal, the time will be longer. Make sure your case cleaner is filled to capacity for best results.

Normal case cleaners using dry media will not get the inside of the cases shiney clean the way it will on the outside of the case.

The only additive I've ever used is Nu Car Finish. I use about a 1/2 cap every 3-4 batches. I think it adds to the shine and possibly cuts grime a little. Doesn't make a difference on the inside though.

jcwit

11-22-2011, 10:16 PM

I do as Ickisrulz does other than I let mine tumble overnite. Time varies as I'm retired and I get up when I wake up, no set schedule.

462

11-22-2011, 10:28 PM

I use corn cob with added Nu Finish. Two-hours, most of the time, three tops.

leadbutt

11-22-2011, 10:39 PM

So if im looking to get the carbon out of the inside of the cases should i be looking into a ultrasonic?

fryboy

11-22-2011, 10:52 PM

nah citric acid cleans them pretty good , of course i like the look of shiny brass so i have to tumble too , of note if the brass is really really clean ( such as after a citric acid bath ) in my humble opinion it also takes less time to polish them , i believe there's a stikki on the citric acid but it maybe in regards to stainless steel pins ( it works pretty decent without the pins but the pins do make it immaculate )

Ickisrulz

11-22-2011, 11:19 PM

So if im looking to get the carbon out of the inside of the cases should i be looking into a ultrasonic?

Did you know it's not necessary to get the carbon out of the inside of the cases?

leadbutt

11-22-2011, 11:52 PM

Ickisrulz

11-23-2011, 12:23 AM

Some of the cases i have do have substanial carbon in them. Maybe im beinga lil a@%^ about it but wouldnt carbon buildup take away from the area and create different case pressures cartridge to cartridge? Or would it really not matter?

Maybe if you're a serious bench rest rifle shooter it might matter. I'm not well versed on the best rest game, but I think those guys just wipe off the cases with a rag and cleaner while loading at the range (or at least did at one time). For pistol and/or a hunting rifle I wouldn't worry at all about interior carbon build-up.

shotman

11-23-2011, 12:25 AM

Try Simple Green, soak over night . full strength. It can be used many times . You can use in tumbler if you have a lid that seals TIGHT. If it dont have a rubber seal DONT do it ,You will have a room full of foam
remove the primers first. It will get 90% of that too

leadbutt

11-23-2011, 12:37 AM

Thank you everyone for your input. I think imma use it all. Ill be saving money on the ultrasonic, just tumbling for shooters and citric/simple green for my match.

jcwit

11-23-2011, 01:20 AM

Maybe if you're a serious bench rest rifle shooter it might matter. I'm not well versed on the best rest game, but I think those guys just wipe off the cases with a rag and cleaner while loading at the range (or at least did at one time). For pistol and/or a hunting rifle I wouldn't worry at all about interior carbon build-up.

I've seen one of our bench shooters in our club reload his cases over and over with only a wipe down between, he then noticed pressure signs starting, upon further checking the inside of the case was filling up with carbon creating an increase in pressure and lack thereof of accuracy.

dromia

11-23-2011, 02:06 AM

If you are shooting smokeless, tumbling dry should get most of the carbon out of the case but won't make the insides shiny like the outsides.

Shooting BP is a different kettle of fish and fouling build up inside the case effecting case capacity is a real issue, thats why most of us wet tumble BP cases with ceramic or steel media.

The thing to do would be to measure your case wall thickness or check the volume of your case in grains of water and then you will know if it is an issue in your situation or not.

For most of us using smokeless it is not.

zuke

11-23-2011, 11:11 AM

SS media. Expensive,yes but it'll last a lifetime.

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jcwit

11-23-2011, 12:38 PM

But my lifetime is getting limited!!!!

cigarman454

11-23-2011, 01:31 PM

Ickisrulz

11-23-2011, 01:39 PM

WOW! Tell me more about this and what kind of tumblre please? :mrgreen:

It's all right here:

http://www.stainlesstumblingmedia.com/

zuke

11-23-2011, 08:47 PM

It's all right here:

http://www.stainlesstumblingmedia.com/

That is NOT the guy who started the whole SS media craze.
I got my media of an older gent named Mark who doesn't want his contact info spread all over the web.
He is the originater of it all,and a wealth of info when you talk to him.
Send me a PM and I'll send you his contact info.
I use a Thumbler's Tumbler model"B" with Dove dishwashing liquid and Lemmishine in water.

Ickisrulz

11-23-2011, 09:51 PM

That is NOT the guy who started the whole SS media craze.
I got my media of an older gent named Mark who doesn't want his contact info spread all over the web.
He is the originater of it all,and a wealth of info when you talk to him.
Send me a PM and I'll send you his contact info.
I use a Thumbler's Tumbler model"B" with Dove dishwashing liquid and Lemmishine in water.

Polishing using SS pins has been around for a long time from what I understand. He might be the first one you heard of doing it though. There are lots of places to get the SS pins. Not just the website I posted or "Mark." I really don't have a dog in the fight (I think wet cleaning brass is overkill)...but if Mark really wants to be the one who sells the media, he should have his name and contact info available. Are you really suggesting we should have consumer loyalty to Mark? That's kind of the way I'm taking your post.

edsmith

11-24-2011, 12:12 AM

I find it kind of odd that someone who wants to sell a product, does not want anyone to have his purchase information.

zuke

11-26-2011, 08:52 PM

I find it kind of odd that someone who wants to sell a product, does not want anyone to have his purchase information.

It take's all kind's......... but his idea of the SS media does work,does it not?

Ickisrulz

11-26-2011, 09:52 PM

I find it kind of odd that someone who wants to sell a product, does not want anyone to have his purchase information.

I'm not sure he wants to sell stuff. But his fans sure want him to get credit for his idea.

leadbutt

11-27-2011, 12:48 AM

That brass looks good. Didnt mean to bring up "pioneer" debates. All i care about is if it works and if i can get the media without a secret code. If the brass is going to get tumbled anyhow why not get it as clean as you can? Thats kinda like clipping your nails and not cleaning out the dirt underneath. Ill guess ill just make due with what i have on hand for the moment and look to the SS setup later on.