NOE 311465 122Gr. RN ( Loverin )

[SwedeNelson]

NOE 311465 122Gr. RN ( Loverin )

THIS BUY IS CLOSED

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i80/swedenelson/1111-1713114651228GrRN.jpg

We will offer this bullet in .311", .314", .316" diameters.
We will also offer a FN
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i80/swedenelson/1111-171311465115GrFNHP.jpg

One size / nose configuration per block. (No mixing diameter or nose configuration)

Will get this buy on the schedule as soon as we get 15 orders.
We will keep the buy open until 2 or 3 weeks before the date on the schedule.
At that time we will close the buy and send out a PM with
a request for payment. We don’t require payment before then.

Prices will be as follows:
Single cavity mould $68.00 Ea.
Double cavity mould $72.00 Ea.
Three cavity mould $79.00 Ea.
Four cavity mould $85.00 Ea.
Five cavity mould $92.00 Ea.
Plus $10.00 Shipping/Handling.
Foreign orders are a additional $10.00 Shipping/Handling.
Prices are subject to change at any time.

You can mix number of cavities in an order to make 15.
We will offer Gas Check or Plain Base on this bullet.

Use LEE Commercial 6-Cavity handles (not included).
Lyman, RCBS type top punch furnished with each mould
as well as a sample of Bull Plate sprue plate lube.
Moulds are machined from 2024 Aluminum
Used for high strength structural and aircraft applications.
Tensile strength range 30,000 to 63,000 psi
Sprue plate (blued), alignment pins, and hardware will be
carbon steel.

Hollow pointing one cavity and furnishing a double
ended pin would be $35.00 Extra.

We will accept Checks, Money Orders and Pay-Pal
Pay-Pal requires a 3% sir-charge.
Pay-Pal account:
pbsco1@qwestoffice.net
Make checks and money orders out to:
NOE Bullet Moulds

Our mailing address is:
NOE Bullet Moulds
1645 W 150 N
Provo, Utah 84601
801 377-7289




Thank you for your interest in this buy.
Swede Nelson

[SwedeNelson]

List of orders
*1 10x 5 cavity RN GC .311
*2 10x 5 cavity FN GC .314
*3 dromia 4 cavity RN GC .311 drill for probe
*4 dromia 4 cavity RN GC .316 drill for probe
*5 rintinglen 4 cavity RN GC .314
*6 Dutch4122 5 cavity FN GC .314
*7 Dannix 4 cavity FN 2GC 2PB .311
*8 dg31872 4 cavity FN GC .311
*9 square butte 4 cavity FN 2GC 2PB .311
*10 square butte 4 cavity FN 2GC 2PB .314
*11 square butte 4 cavity FN 2GC 2PB .316
12 mag44uk 5 cavity RN 1GC 4PB .314
*13 rollmyown 4 cavity FN 2GC 2PB .311 drill for probe
*14 rollmyown 4 cavity RN 2GC 2PB .314 drill for probe
*15 rollmyown 4 cavity FN 2GC 2PB .316 drill for probe
*16 Rattlesnake Charlie 5 cavity RN GC w/HP
*17 Bodydoc 4 cavity FN GC .311
*18 scb 4 cavity RN GC .311 drill for probe
*19 largom 2 cavity FN GC w/HP .311
20 troy71mo 4 cavity RN GC .311
*21 Jeff Michel 4 cavity fN 2GC 2PB .311
*22 CENTEX BILL 3 cavity FN GC .311
23 KYCaster 3 cavity RN GC w/HP & extra blank pin
*24 Cimarron Red 2 cavity RN GC .314 drill for probe
*25 Larry Gibson 4 cavity RN GC .311
26 Nix 5 cavity RN PB .311 w/HP
*27 Olvern 4 cavity RN GC .311
28 HighHook 4 cavity FN GC .311
*29 coxd 2 cavity FN GC w/HP .314
*30 sffr 3 cavity FN GC w/HP .311 drill for probe
31 Slow Elk 45/70 3 cavity FN GC w/HP .311
*32 15bobcat 2 cavity RN 1GC 1PB .311
*33 cba257 3 cavity RN PB .311
*34 Kansas Ed 3 cavity RN GC .314 w/HP extra pin
*35 atom73 4 cavity RN GC .311 drill for probe
*36 TCFAN 3 cavity FN GC .311
*37 trail troll 3 cavity RN 1GC 2PB .316
*38 Janoosh 3 cavity FN GC .311
*39 Janoosh 3 cavity FN PB .314
*40 kbstenberg 3 cavity FN GC .311 drill for probe
*41 sneakyNL 5 cavity FN GC w/HP .311
*42 FLYCUTTER 5 cavity RN GC .311
*43 Cattleman 5 cavity RN 4GC 1PB w/2HP GC .311 drill for probe
*44 PB234 4 cavity FN 2GC 2PB .314
45 DeadWoodDan 4 cavity FN GC w/HP .314
*46 ballistim 4 cavity FN GC .311
*47 btreanor 5 cavity RN GC .311
*48 fishman 5 cavity FN GC .311 drill for probe
*49 Bjornb 4 cavity RN GC .311
*50 ammohead 4 cavity FN GC .314
51
52

(*) = Paid

Thanks
Swede Nelson

[10x]

Put me down for a .311 5 cavity RN GC

You have a spare money order that I sent you that should pay for it....


List of orders
1

Swede Nelson

[longbow]

Al:

I am really tempted on this one and just may do it!

I got questions though.

If I am interpreting your drawing right, for a 0.311" boolit the front two driving bands are 0.310" and the rest are 0.311"?

I am looking for either 0.315" in PB or 0.316" in GC. What would the front driving band diameters be for those?

If FN what size meplat?

If HP what diameter & depth?

Could two cavities of a four cavity mould be hollow pointed (say each end cavity)?

I know, lots of questions!

Thanks,
Longbow

[dromia]

1 x four cavity GC Drill for probe .316"
1 x four cavity GC Drill for probe .311"

:lovebooli :-D

[Greg in Malad]

I'll take a 5 cavity, round nose, gas check, .311 diameter.
Now I can finally retire my single cavity mold.

[SwedeNelson]

longbow

Posted a drawing that should help.
And yes the two top bands are .001" smaller
so it would be the same on the .314" and .316" diameters, .313" and .315".
And two cavities could be hollow pointed, one on each end.

Swede Nelson

[longbow]

Al:

Thanks for that.

I was leaning towards the 311410 (in 0.315"/0.316") but I really like this boolit and if I can get two HP cavities in 4 cavity PB mould... well, I can be bought!

Count me as on the fence currently but if this is a go then I will jump in for:

- 0.316" PB (0.315" front bands)
- 4 cavity
- 2 HP cavities

I would like a deeper HP than what you show but could make my own HP pins so not a big deal.

Thanks again.

Longbow

[rintinglen]

I'd like a 4 cavity .314 GC

[SwedeNelson]

Updated list
Bump
You can check the scheduale here:
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=130122

Swede Nelson

[longbow]

Bump!

Surely there has to be more interest in this little beauty.

[10x]

Bump!

Surely there has to be more interest in this little beauty.

There has to be - when (if) you find them on flea bay they sell for rather more than the NOE multiple cavity version.

[Dutch4122]

I'm in for:

.311" / 5 cavity with one cavity hollowpointed

.314" / 5 cavity with one cavity hollowpointed

.316" / 5 cavity with one cavity hollowpointed

All cavities FN style nose configuration.

All gas checked, please.

:guntootsmiley:

[Dannix]

Please put me down for a 4 cavity GC .311

Edit: FN

Thanks! :bigsmyl2:

[kbstenberg]

I would like a 3 cavity GC at .311, Flat nose
Kevin

[kbstenberg]

Will you allso drill mine for your probe? PLEASE

[Greg in Malad]

Bump!

Surely there has to be more interest in this little beauty.

I think the problem may be that since used molds are nearly impossible to find, too few people know how good this design shoots.

[Dannix]

I think the problem may be that since used molds are nearly impossible to find, too few people know how good this design shoots.
I just hope I'm not risking too much going for it in FN form -- I've heard some very good things about this little guy. The 311410 was tempting, but this cute little 311465 won out.

[Dutch4122]

Swede-

Please also note that I would like all three of my molds to be cut with the "FN" nose configuration.

Also, probably just a typo, but you have me on the list for a .311" and two .314" molds. I would like one of each diameter; in other words, .311"- .314" - and .316"

Thanks! :-D

[square butte]

In for a 3 cavity GC .311 - all Flat Nose. ?Why are we doing this at .311 and not .312 ?

[rintinglen]

It amazes me that there is not more interest in this mold. I currently have 2 Lyman's, one 1 cavity and one 2 cavity--these are great boolits. I bid $150 for a 4 cavity on ebay and lost by 38 dollars. I have shot hundreds out of my 30-30's and as many or more out of my 30-06 and 30-40. I have even shot them out of my 32-20. They are very accurate and hold their accuracy even when driven fast. I have run them at 2400 fps experimentally out of a 30-30 and thanks to the multiple grooves they hold plenty of lube. This would be a good choice for a 30 carbine, a 7.62 x 39, or as a plinker/small game boolit in any 30 caliber. Lyman's 3rd Edition Cast Bullet Handbook has many loads listed for it in multiple calibers.

[Greg in Malad]

It amazes me that there is not more interest in this mold.


I agree! This is a very accurate bullet in all my .30 cal rifles, my 30/06 has fired 10 shot 100 yd groups that were close to M.O.A. And it is a wonderful small game bullet. I guess most people would prefer to shoot 200 grains of expensive lead at a paper target.

[kbstenberg]

For those experienced with the bullet. I ordered a FN on my mold. Would there be a disadvantage with the FN rather than the original round nose?

[square butte]

By my count we are just 2 orders short of a picnic. Seems like we oughta be able to shove this one over the top.

[square butte]

Works for me.

[dromia]

I'm OK with that.

[10x]

IF we're willing to agree to the $10.00 extra per mould I believe it can go on the schedule now. I can't believe we wouldn't pick up two more in the next year (that is how far out these would be scheduled) so the minimum would be met and the $10.00 wouldn't be applied.

Patience grasshopper - all of the good things are worth waiting for...

[Dannix]

Please put me down for a 4 cavity GC .311

Edit: FN

Thanks! :bigsmyl2:
Hey, could you add me to the list Swede?

Thanks

[mag44uk]

I have been looking for a cheap short range plinker for 303 and this looks good.
I would like a 5 cavity,RN,0.314 4 pb and 1 gc
And if I cant get 5 shots into a 50pence size hole at 100 I will blame you all!
Thanks,
Tony

[rollmyown]

What will 3 molds to Australia cost (postcode 7315)? - 4 cavity molds.

Thanks

[kbstenberg]

Hey Tony. If you don't get the accuracy you want. You can send me the mold, I'll keep it in cold storage so it doesn't offend any one else. Just PM me for shipping instructions.
Kevin

[SwedeNelson]

rollmyown
$20.00 postage

Updated list
Got us on the schedule
Bump

Swede Nelson

[rollmyown]

3 molds please. 311 FN 4 cav 2PB/2GC. 314 RN 4 cav 2 PB/2GC, 316 FN 4 cav 2PB/2GC. Please drill for probe.

[rollmyown]

Payment sent

[Dutch4122]

Swede-

Please edit my order to show that I want all three molds cut with a flat nose profile.

Thanks!:CastBoolitsisbest:

[SwedeNelson]

Checked list
Bump

Thanks for the orders
Swede Nelson

[Rattlesnake Charlie]

Five cavity mold $92.00
Plus $10.00 Shipping/Handling
All cavities Gas Check
One cavity hollow point and a double ended pin $35.00 Extra

[Dannix]

'nother bump. Swede please see post# 42

And post #43 as well.


Five cavity mold $92.00
Plus $10.00 Shipping/Handling
All cavities Gas Check
One cavity hollow point and a double ended pin $35.00 Extra
Welcome to the party. :mrgreen:

[SwedeNelson]

Updated list
Bump
Check your noses, make sure I got-em right.
Thanks for all the help.
Swede Nelson

[Bodydoc447]

Please add me for a 0.311 FN 4 cavity all GC mould.

Thanks,

Doc

[SwedeNelson]

Updated list
Bump

Thanks
Swede Nelson

[longbow]

Al:

I couldn't find a link to your schedule that worked. When is this going into production?

Thanks,
Longbow

[square butte]

Look just above your post at Al's post. Just above the NOE Logo - SEE "you can check our schedule HERE". Click on HERE

[longbow]

Hah! You are right, I missed that one. Never even saw that link down with his "signature". I kept finding older links that didn't work.

There is still quite a wait for this one then.

Thanks.

Longbow

[Dannix]

There is still quite a wait for this one then.
Wow, there is indeed.

Is the second machine operational yet? I'm looking forward to this little guy.

[SwedeNelson]

Checked list
Bump

Swede Nelson

[10x]

Shameless bump to the top

[sisterjim]

written in error, my apologies. JIM

[SwedeNelson]

Checked list

Bump

Just so we have no misunderstandings this
buy is on the schedule for February 2013

Swede Nelson

[Dannix]

Maybe it's just me, but as time goes by, Feb 2013 seems less and less far away.

[square butte]

Yep - Sneeze a couple of times and that'll be right here. And you will have signed up for 5 or 6 more molds to boot. Me too.

[scb]

I'm out. Went from February 2013 to maybe never. Money talks I guess.
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=156593

[Greg in Malad]

I have to say that I’m more than a bit disappointed with Al’s new production schedule. The reality is that this mold will never be as popular as the pistol molds and will continue to be pushed to the bottom of the list, if it ever makes it to the production schedule again. It took almost 10 months to get 19 orders, I don’t think it will ever get 30. My single cavity lyman mold may be slow but it’s quicker than nothing. I’m not going to remove my name from the list right now but I really think this buy is dead.

[square butte]

If I could find a lyman single cavity right now - I would buy it. This mold may be made yet. I am keeping my name on the list. I wish Al would leave those group buy molds already on the schedule that have at least 15 orders - And institute the new rule after those already in the pipeline are run. I understand his logic in making the change - But seems kind of like pulling back from something that has already been promised. This is one of those molds in particular, that I would really like to see run. Especially since it is a hard mold to come by - And because I would really like to have it in a flat nose configuration. I do really appreciate everything Al has done for this community - and would not want to do without the wonderful molds he has made for me.

[scb]

06/23/12
The things that I wrote in this post were done in haste without all the facts. I have chosen to delete them so they do not potentially cause any further damage to the people involved. Anything that was said in rebuttal to this post I earned.
scb

[SwedeNelson]

scb

Mr. Buxton I hope that helped getting that off your chest.
I'll get your name off any other buy's

Any others need to do the same have at it.

MEANINGLESS WORDS
Swede Nelson

[Greg in Malad]

With a response like that you can remove my name as well.

[SwedeNelson]

After giving it a little consideration if others feel
the same about this buy we can close it and move
the next one up.
This has been just about a brake even proposition from
the word go and with costs of everything going up, delivery
times running out longer and longer and the attitudes of some
it make it harder and harder to try and provide what I
thought was a needed service.

Your call tell me what you want
Swede Nelson

[SwedeNelson]

Greg in Malad

Done

Swede Nelson

[longbow]

No hard feelings or complaints Al but I will drop out of this one too.

I am very happy with the NOE moulds I have and was looking forward to this one but it looks like it is dead in the water at this point.

I understand you have a business to run and it takes a given production level to keep unit costs reasonable and still make a profit.

I haven't followed all the posts but have you considered charging a higher cost for small runs? I would rather pay more to get a custom mould that fits my sloppy .303 bores than not get a mould at all. I don't know of anyone else making the 311465 in 5 cavity, 0.316" diameter and HP option. I think your prices are quite reasonable so it wouldn't hurt my feelings to pay 20% to 30% more for a mould tailored to my needs.

If larger runs yield cheaper moulds for others I guess that's life eh. I might get in on some of those buys too. Just a thought.

Anyway, as stated above, it looks like we won't get to the number of orders required for a buy any time soon so I will make other plans.

Please take my name off the list.

Thanks,
Longbow

[Dannix]

Bummer. I was really looking forward to this little boolit, even if it meant waiting many months.

Al, is there a "cap" to the wait time?

(I'd still like to have this mould, but if it's possible that a year from now this is still just a maybe, then I have little to hope for. Does that make sense?)

Thanks Swede

[SwedeNelson]

Dannix, others

I have no idea how this new system will work out.

I have high hopes it will get us caught up and
we will be able to get back to running new group buys.
Some seem to have the idea that that it's not worth waiting
to see if it will work. And that's fine we have asked you all to
do more than we should have. I'm just as frustrated as you.

As to a "cap" no I would like to not panic and see how it
works out.
I'm still trying to do the best I can despite what some have
come to think.

Swede Nelson

[Dannix]

Thanks Swede. I appreciate it.

Please don't judge the members here too harshly. Going from "on the schedule for Feb 2013" to a 'maybe someday on the schedule' (paraphrase) in one fell swoop is rather steep. I imagine it was hard for you to make such a call, but it may have been helpful to have been a bit more transparent many months ago.

I'll go ahead and leave my name on here, and we'll see what happens. :)

[square butte]

Swede - My request is that you not pull the plug on this mold. Would not want to loose the work that has already been done here.

[wiljen]

Before tempers get any worse, lets all take a deep breath and relax a bit.
We have gotten greedy with our wants since we now have people who have stepped up to fill the void for some of the products we use. Not long ago we had maybe 4 or 5 buys running at any given time because you had to pay Lee in advance and wait 12-18 months for a mold that had a 50/50 chance of coming out right.

Then came BRP, and NOE, and Mihec and we got spoiled. No more pay up front which led to the idea that we can just go ahead and pile on the buys since it wasn't tying up our funds. So now both NOE and Miha have a backlog of 12-18 months worth of stuff and both are fighting the fact that materials costs are ever changing. Having spoken to both Al and Miha at this point, I can tell you both share some of the same concerns regarding scheduling production of as many molds as people are requesting and being able to deliver in a reasonable fashion.

There is an old adage "Good,Fast,Cheap - pick 2" that applies here. To expand production is a $160,000 proposition for an additional CNC mill. That would speed up buys considerably but the cost passed on to the customer would be more than most want to absorb. Besides, the approach some are taking now is "We will just switch to the other maker with the waiting list of over a year". Neither company has the capacity to produce molds as quickly as we would like to have them. Neither company has the resources to expand to reach that capacity and most here would not be willing to pay the difference if they did.

All of these companies are start-ups and some struggles are expected. I know Al has agonized over how to do this. I know in speaking with Miha that he has reached a point where he has run out of capacity and doesn't see the line getting shorter for him either.

I think we need to be careful that we don't overburden these makers to the point they decide it isn't worth the hassle. I remember the days of Lee being the only game in town for buys, I'd rather not go back because we made it so much headache for the other makers that they decided to call it quits.

[dromia]

Before tempers get any worse, lets all take a deep breath and relax a bit.
We have gotten greedy with our wants since we now have people who have stepped up to fill the void for some of the products we use. Not long ago we had maybe 4 or 5 buys running at any given time because you had to pay Lee in advance and wait 12-18 months for a mold that had a 50/50 chance of coming out right.

Then came BRP, and NOE, and Mihec and we got spoiled. No more pay up front which led to the idea that we can just go ahead and pile on the buys since it wasn't tying up our funds. So now both NOE and Miha have a backlog of 12-18 months worth of stuff and both are fighting the fact that materials costs are ever changing. Having spoken to both Al and Miha at this point, I can tell you both share some of the same concerns regarding scheduling production of as many molds as people are requesting and being able to deliver in a reasonable fashion.

There is an old adage "Good,Fast,Cheap - pick 2" that applies here. To expand production is a $160,000 proposition for an additional CNC mill. That would speed up buys considerably but the cost passed on to the customer would be more than most want to absorb. Besides, the approach some are taking now is "We will just switch to the other maker with the waiting list of over a year". Neither company has the capacity to produce molds as quickly as we would like to have them. Neither company has the resources to expand to reach that capacity and most here would not be willing to pay the difference if they did.

All of these companies are start-ups and some struggles are expected. I know Al has agonized over how to do this. I know in speaking with Miha that he has reached a point where he has run out of capacity and doesn't see the line getting shorter for him either.

I think we need to be careful that we don't overburden these makers to the point they decide it isn't worth the hassle. I remember the days of Lee being the only game in town for buys, I'd rather not go back because we made it so much headache for the other makers that they decided to call it quits.


Concur absolutely!

I for one don't want to go back to the Lee lottery days.

Al and the others have invested their money to try and meet our wants, they have to turn a pound to be viable.

Better they review their business model in the light of demand and costs rather than keep their heads in the sand and go belly up.

I have nothing but respect for NOE in doing what they are doing as it seems to me they are trying very hard to make it work for them and us.

Better 12 mould designs a year than none or god forbid reverting back to the Lee shambles.

I try as much as my pocket allows to support our "local" mould makers and will continue to do so as its hard to get quality and good customer relations anywhere to day.

So value what we have before we loose it.

[SwedeNelson]

Updated list

Bump

Swede Nelson

[scb]

Now that thing have been clarified if you what to put me back on the list I would buy one of these. If not that's OK too.

[SwedeNelson]

scb

Done
I will need to know what you would like.

And thank you very much for the order.
Swede Nelson

[square butte]

I'm hoping Greg in Malad will reconsider, and rejoin us on this mold GB.

[scb]

Swede, 1ea. 4 cavity gas checked round nose drilled for probe. Thank you.


I'm hoping Greg in Malad will reconsider, and rejoin us on this mold GB.

Agreed. I flew of the handle before all the all facts were known. My conduct was not the best and I apologize.

[Dannix]

Agreed. I flew of the handle before all the all facts were known. My conduct was not the best and I apologize.
One of the reasons why I really appreciate this forum and the members here. :)

[square butte]

We do have some great folks here and scb is one of them.

[SwedeNelson]

We do have some great folks here and scb is one of them.


scb

I'm very sorry that I wasn't a lot clearer.
At the time I will admit I was a little touchy and on the defence.
I'm about like any one that is in a corner, some time you just come out swinging.

Sorry I wasn't more clear.
Swede Nelson

square butte
I agree - scb has been a great customer in the past and I look forward to working with him for a very long time.
And I hope we can work through this with Greg in Malad.

Swede Nelson

[10x]

Bummer. I was really looking forward to this little boolit, even if it meant waiting many months.

Al, is there a "cap" to the wait time?

(I'd still like to have this mould, but if it's possible that a year from now this is still just a maybe, then I have little to hope for. Does that make sense?)

Thanks Swede

Thank you to Swede for keeping this one on the list.
I would very much like to have this mould.
The 311365 is a fine bullet and works well in most rifles I have tried it in.
Yes it is a plinker but how much bullet does one need for squirrel, rabbit, and gopher?
Good thins are worth waiting for and this one is well worth the wait.

[10x]

My 7.62x39 and my 300 savage are patiently waiting for this one
Another shameless bump to the top....


BTW: PLease put me down for a
5 cavity 314 diameter F.P. G.C. in addition to the .311 I have on the list as well.
The .311 remains a R.N. as then I will be able to quickly keep the two diameters sorted out.
My 303 British is waiting now as well.

[SwedeNelson]

Updated list

Bump

Thanks
Swede Nelson

[largom]

Swede, I would like to get on the list for a .311 2 cavity FN if possible.

THANKS, Larry

[SwedeNelson]

Updated list

Bump

Thanks for the order
Swede Nelson

[no34570]

I'll take a 3 cavity all gc .316 please

[no34570]

As my grandmother used to say to me "All things great,come to those that wait"How right she was,specially when I wanted her scones she used to make,yummo! getting off track there.

I am prepared to wait for Swedes moulds,keep em coming mate ;)

[square butte]

Al, Please add the following 2 molds to my order - Also note you have misspelled my user name. Add - a 3 cavity FN GC .314 and Add - a 3 cavity FN GC .316 Thank you sir.

[square butte]

I think we are at 22 molds after these two are added to the list. That makes only 8 shy of getting on the schedule. Beat the brush for those other 8 orders.

[Dannix]

I may have mis-read, but Al clarified he will not be taking on new GBs until they are all caught up. So we are already on the list. :mrgreen: (Cracking 30 would simply mean we would get higher dibs than others also waiting, as far as I know.)

I think we are at 22 molds after these two are added to the list. That makes only 8 shy of getting on the schedule. Beat the brush for those other 8 orders.

[square butte]

Good. Somehow I missed that point. Thanks for the clarification. Am looking forward to trying the flat nose version of this mold in my Savage 23C 32-20. Also the .316 diameter in my .303 Brit. jungle carbine. Have a feeling this will become one of my favorites.

[CENTEX BILL]

Put me down for 3 cavity .311 dia mold. All gas checked.

Centex Bill

[KYCaster]

I'll take a three cavity RN GC with one cav HP with extra flat point pin.

Jerry

[Dannix]

Please tweak from all GC to 2 cavities GC, 2 cavities PB. Thanks!

9 Dannix 4 cavity FN GC .311

[10x]

And the weekly "bump to the top".

[Cimarron Red]

Hi, Swede,

I'd like a two cavity .314" RN GC drilled for probe.

Thanks.

[Larry Gibson]

I'l take a 4 cavity; .311 with RN.

Larry Gibson

[doctorggg]

I'll take a 4 cavity round nose gas check

[doctorggg]

Forgot to say .311

[SwedeNelson]

Updated list

Bump

Thanks
Swede Nelson

[Nix]

Put me down for a .311 5-Cavity RN with plain-base and Hollow-Point (round pin and hex pin) plus handles, please.

greg at tacticaladvantage dot ca

[10x]

Been 11 days, time for a shameless bump to the top...
This is a good bullet and we need to get it into production.

[square butte]

As my dear Wife says " The world belongs to the shameless" - tongue and cheek humor.

[10x]

As my dear Wife says " The world belongs to the shameless" - tongue and cheek humor.

And the shameless promote the mold and get enough sold so it goes into production faster.
I have a 7.62x39, a 30-30, a 30-40, a 308 and a 30/06 nagging me to hurry up and get casting with this mold - not to mention the 303.....

[square butte]

I am gonna try this in 32-20 a well.

[Olevern]

Four cavity GC round nose for me please! Oh, .311

Looks like a good boolit for the .30 Herrett!

[HighHook]

Please Put me down for 2
1) 4 cavity FN 2GC 2PB .311
1) 4 cavity FN 2GC 2PB .314

Thanks

[10x]

Please Put me down for 2
1) 4 cavity FN 2GC 2PB .311
1) 4 cavity FN 2GC 2PB .314

Thanks

It is great bullet and I can't wait for my two molds.

[sffar]

I'll take the #30 spot with a 3C GC .311. 1 HP cavity and drilled for probe. I'm thinking it'll be a good one for the Contender 30/30.
Sam

[square butte]

Looks like 32 molds ordered - by my count. That should put us on the schedule.

[rintinglen]

Are we there yet? I don't see us on the list yet.

[Dannix]

Looks like 32 molds ordered - by my count. That should put us on the schedule.
To borrow a phrase from someone else, >30 moulds means Swede hand deliver to each house, riding a unicorn made of bacon. :mrgreen:

[no34570]

Al
On my order for this one,could you please drill for probe? please.
Thank you.

[SwedeNelson]

Updated list

Bump

Thanks
Swede Nelson

[Slow Elk 45/70]

OK, I'll take 1ea .311-3cav GC FN W/1 HP:groner:

[Olevern]

Four cavity GC round nose for me please! Oh, .311

Looks like a good boolit for the .30 Herrett!

Swede,
could you change my listing to GC round nose, please?

[rintinglen]

Are we there yet?

[SwedeNelson]

Updated list

Bump

Thanks
Swede Nelson

[largom]

Swede, I am on the list for 2 cav. gas check. I would like to have one cavity hollow pointed.

THANKS, Larry

[kbstenberg]

Sorry Al I have to cancel my order.

[HighHook]

Hey Al, Could you please drop #31 the .314 off the list.
#30 the 4cav make all GC please. Thank you

[10x]

shameless bump to the top

[dg31872]

Al, put me down for a four cav., .311, round nose. Thanks, Dennis.

[coxd]

Hello, I would like to get a .314 2 cavity gas check mold with hollow point pins, please.
coxd
coxd303b at gmail dot com or
coxd at cimarron dot coop
Thanks.

[Dannix]

I'm really looking forward to this one. :mrgreen:

[square butte]

Al, If you would be so kind, Changes to my orders #11, #12, and #13 as follows : (#11 - .311 4 cav FN 2PB 2GC) (#12 - .314 4cav FN 2PB 2GC) (#13 .316 4 cav FN 2PB 2GC) Thank you Sir, Square Butte

[easy ed]

Hi
I would like one (1) 5 cavity RN PB .311.

Thanks

Easy Ed

[15bobcat]

Swede:

Please add me to the list for a 2 Cavity RN 1GC 1PB .311 Pay-Pal to follow.

Harold

[Mr Peabody]

I'll take a 2 cavity GC RN .311

[dg31872]

Good morning, Swede. I requested to be included in this group buy on 12/23/2012, post #117, but I do not see my name on the list. This is a mould I have wanted for a while, I hope I don't get left out! Also, I forgot to specify to make it a gas checked variety. Thanks, Dennis.

[largom]

Swede, I also checked the list and found my order but I had changed it to include one cavity with a hollow point.
Larry

[SwedeNelson]

Updated list
Bump

dg31872
You are #10 on the list

Thanks for the order
Swede Nelson

[no34570]

Hey Al
Can I change my order please,instead of a 3 cavity .316 I would like
1 two cavity .311
1 two cavity .316
And drill for probe please?
Thanks ;)

[Dutch4122]

Al-

I'm going to have to drop a couple of the molds from my 3 mold order on this one.

Please take #6 and #8 off the list.

I will keep #7 (5 cavity FNGC .314" diameter) on the order list.

Sorry for the inconvience.

[no34570]

Hey Al
Can I change my order please,instead of a 3 cavity .316 I would like
1 two cavity .311
1 two cavity .316
And drill for probe please?
Thanks ;)

Just a reminder Al
Thanks

[Mr Peabody]

Al-
I bought the 115gr RN from your site last week. I won't need this one now.

[10x]

Al-
I bought the 115gr RN from your site last week. I won't need this one now.

You just think you don't need it. You will regret not getting one later....

[square butte]

Atta boy

[Rattlesnake Charlie]

Waiting patiently.

[square butte]

The tears on my pillow bespeak the pain in my heart...! Hard for me to believe that everyone doesn't want at least one of these. Man it seems like a long haul on this mold.

[10x]

The tears on my pillow bespeak the pain in my heart...! Hard for me to believe that everyone doesn't want at least one of these. Man it seems like a long haul on this mold.


I have had to make do with a lyman two cavity. Once i get this one the wait will have been worth it.

[scb]

The tears on my pillow bespeak the pain in my heart...! Hard for me to believe that everyone doesn't want at least one of these. Man it seems like a long haul on this mold.

APRIL

http://noebulletmolds.com/orders/catalog/schedule.php

[square butte]

Nice. The last time I looked - I thought it would not be untill June or July. All you fence sitters - Round up your orders and greenbacks - And get on board. Might as well spend it here.

[Fishman]

Anybody have an opinion or actual knowledge if the flatnose version of this would feed in an M1 carbine?

[square butte]

Lot's of folks use the lyman 311-316 which is a flat nose. I would think scb could offer a good opinion here. Highlight the word opinion since i don't think a flat nose version has been made yet - at least not commercialy. I believe scb loads the round nose version in 30 carbine. I would like to see hear about his experience regarding using this bullet in 30 carbine - flat or round.

[scb]

Anybody have an opinion or actual knowledge if the flatnose version of this would feed in an M1 carbine?

The flat nose is new to this boolit, tho a HP version might give a similar profile. All I've ever used (and have) are the round nose boolits. I wouldn't say one way or the other 'til I'd tried them. Anything other than that would be pure speculation on my part. Sorry.

[NSP64]

I load the Lee soup can flat nose in my 30 carbine and it eats them up. If yours dont, tweek the forward feed lips together just a smidge and that should fix it up.

[cba257]

I would like to be added to this group buy.

A RN, .311, plain base, 3 cavity please.
codya <at> potlatch <dot> com

Thanks, Cody

[Kansas Ed]

Count me in. I'll take a .314 RN, GC, 3 cavity, with one HP, and an extra hp pin.

66lemans <at>sbcglobal<dot>net

Ed

[atom73]

4 cav, round nose, gas check base in .311 with hole drilled for temp probe please.
Atom

[doctorggg]

I'm #26 please drop me off this buy. Thanks Greg

[AlanF]

Needing a good bullet for a Browning Model 53 - how would this bullet with FN work in this leveraction? Thank you.

[SwedeNelson]

Updated list

Bump

Swede Nelson

[TCFAN]

I will take a 3 cavity FN GC .311 Thanks ..................Terry

[AlanF]

Are any of you planning to use this bullet in a 32-20 lever action? My concern is feeding. Thanks.

[scb]

Are any of you planning to use this bullet in a 32-20 lever action? My concern is feeding. Thanks.

Lever's are made to feed and shoot flat nose bullets as a safety concern. I can't think of a reason why this one wouldn't work. The flatnose configuration of this boolit is new so I don't think anyone will be able to give you their first hand experience unless they had somehow filed or otherwise cut the nose off. Sorry.

[trail troll]

Add me to the list, three cavity round nose - .316 - two cavities pb, one gc.

Thanks,
Bill

[dg31872]

Swede, please change mine from round nose to flat nose. I am dg31872, number 7 on the list. Thanks.

[Janoosh]

Please add me to the list. A three cavity 311 GC FN. And a three cacvlty 314 PB FN. Thank you. Janoosh........ Janoosh357 *at* gee male (dot) com

[kbstenberg]

Put me down for a 3 cavity, .311, GC, flat nose. Also please drill for your probe.

[easy ed]

Please remover me #32 from the list

Thanks

Easy Ed

[SNEAKY_NL]

Count me in. 5 cavity, .311, 3 gc, 2 pb, all flatnose....

Thanks...

[FLYCUTTER]

Put me in for a 5 cavity RN GC .311" Thank You

[dg31872]

Anyone have any idea when this mould may be made? We have 36 names, where does that put us on the list?

[kbstenberg]

dg31872 You should be able to go to NOE's website and see where it is in his lineup. Kevin

[square butte]

Showing June at the moment.

[dg31872]

Thanks, I'm looking forward to getting this. Kinda like a kid waiting on Christmas.

[square butte]

I'm with ya there.

[CATTLEMAN]

Please sign me up for a: round nose five cavity .311; if possible I would like 1 cavity plain base, 2 cavities gas check and 2 cavities gas check with hollow point.

Are extra hollow point pins available and if they are how much are they?

Is there enough room to hollow point three of the cavities on a five cavity block?

Can you put a probe hole on a hollow point block?

Thanks

[PB234]

Please sign me up for a:

Flat Nose
4 cavity
2 PB
2 GC
.314

Thanks

[dogman]

Is this GB closed or can I still get in on it?

[square butte]

Still open. Just say what you'd like and Al will update the list of orders when he has time. NOE schedule shows production for June. Not sure if that is still an accurate estimate.

[DeadWoodDan]

4 cavity FN GC .314 & H/P one cavity please
ktensig AT ilstu DOT edu
Guess i waited long enough and know this is coming soon!!

[ballistim]

4 cavity FN GC .311 please

[Dannix]

NOE schedule shows production for June. Not sure if that is still an accurate estimate.
Hey, even if it's a bit beyond that, it's getting close. :mrgreen:

[no34570]

Al
Have to come off this buy,#20 & #21 can you take me off please,my income has dropped dramatically,sorry!
Will have to rethink others I'm on too.

[square butte]

Looks like we are still on the schedule for June

[troy71mo]

June isn't very far away so I better get in on this before I miss out.

Please put me down for a 4 cavity RN GC .311

Thanks
Troy

[Fishman]

Guys, I still can't pull the trigger on this one. I shoot the 155 gr Lee spitzer with good success in many of my military surplus guns. I'd really like to hear the opinion of someone who has tried both. I also have the Lee 113 gr mould. I load for many different military and commercial calibers in the .30 and .31 caliber range. Another question I have is regarding the Loverin design. I have read that some have difficulty casting Loverins. I have also read about enhanced accuracy ability with Loverins. As someone who has never cast, shot, or even held a Loverin design in my hands, am I missing out? I may be wrong, but I think a lot of casters are in the same boat as me, since Loverin designs aren't as widespread. I've read this entire thread and many others, but the answer to my question is only hinted at, and not explained.

[10x]

Guys, I still can't pull the trigger on this one. I shoot the 155 gr Lee spitzer with good success in many of my military surplus guns. I'd really like to hear the opinion of someone who has tried both. I also have the Lee 113 gr mould. I load for many different military and commercial calibers in the .30 and .31 caliber range. Another question I have is regarding the Loverin design. I have read that some have difficulty casting Loverins. I have also read about enhanced accuracy ability with Loverins. As someone who has never cast, shot, or even held a Loverin design in my hands, am I missing out? I may be wrong, but I think a lot of casters are in the same boat as me, since Loverin designs aren't as widespread. I've read this entire thread and many others, but the answer to my question is only hinted at, and not explained.


I have a number of 30 caliber loverin molds. I have yet to have any problem with casting. I have this in a double cavity lyman mold. It shoots well in 30-30, 30/06, and 7.62x39 using a number of powders and cast in wheel weights. I have yet to drive this bullet over 1800 fps but I can get a 2" group or less from most loads without much effort on my part.
I like the loverin bullets because I reload cast for a number of 303 British rifles as well. I have had great success with the loverin style 311 bullet in the 303 british when other cast bullets would tumble out of some 303 rifles.

THis is a slick little bullet that I suspect I will try in my 7.62x25 if i can ever find load data for it as well.
In all, there has been much said positive and negative about Loverin bullets. My experience with these bullets has been very positive. The loverin style removes one variable - the bore riding nose, as the whole boolit is bore riding.
I have a lee 120 grain mold but the lee bullet just does not shoot as accurately out of my guns as this one.

[Fishman]

Thank you 10x, that is very informative.

[CATTLEMAN]

My order is currently listed as: Cattleman 5 cavity FN 4GC 1PB w/2HP GC .311 drill for probe

but I want the round nose profile --

Please update my order to -- Cattleman 5 cavity RN 4GC 1PB w/2HP GC .311 drill for probe

Thanks,

[Jeff Michel]

Please put me down for a 4 cavity, FN, 2PB, 2 GC, .311
Thank you,
Jeff Michel

[btreanor]

Please put me down for a 5-cavity, RN, all GC, .311. Thanks!

btreanor(at)hotmail(dot)com

[Fishman]

I will take a 5 cavity GC, FN, .311 and drill for probe.

Thanks!

[SNEAKY_NL]

can you change it in 5cav fn .311 gc plus hollow point

Thanks, Dave

[SwedeNelson]

Last call on this one
Will close it in about a week or so

Get your order in

Swede Nelson

[SNEAKY_NL]

can you change it in 5cav fn .311 gc plus hollow point

Thanks, Dave

plus HP

[Bjornb]

One 4 cav RN GC .311.
Thx.

[ammohead]

OK I'll bite. Make it a .314 4 cavity FN GC. ammohead.
Bruce R Frechette
665 Joel Way
Fallon, Nv 89406

[SwedeNelson]

Buy is closed
Updated list
Will get PM for payment out this weekend

Thanks
Swede Nelson

[square butte]

Payment went out in this mornings mail.

[TCFAN]

My payment goes out today as well......................Terry

[kbstenberg]

Payment in todays post.
Now we have to get a GB for the 311467 and we will be set.

[Bjornb]

Amen to the 311467. I'm ready.

[square butte]

Well, I wouldn't want to forget the 257-463 and 257-464 - As long as we are talking Loverin style molds.

[CATTLEMAN]

Al,

I paid by pp around 6-5-13, sent you a PM.

Thanks,

[Jeff Michel]

311467, did someone suggest a 311467? That's three then........ Who's going to call Al and break the news to him:)

[dromia]

I suggest that you take your Loverin desires over to the GB discussion forum and get some threads started there for people to sign up to and give Al a chance to see where it would fit in his schedule.

[Dannix]

Payment mailed out today.

[Kansas Ed]

Did a paypal this morning.

Ed

[ballistim]

Sent payment by PayPal on 6/17, am really looking forward to trying this one in several of my 30 caliber guns & Contender barrels.
I love NOE molds, and hope the 311365 comes around again... I just have to try that one in my Garands!

[ammohead]

Hi Al:
On the list it doesn't show that I requested flat nose on post #184. Can this happen please. I like the extra thump of a flat nose.

ammohead

[SwedeNelson]

This one will be on the mill monday

ammohead
Done - FN it is.

Swede Nelson

[SwedeNelson]

Just finishing up

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i80/swedenelson/311465122GrFN001.jpg

Run the HP pins and should start to ship this weekend
This has been a fun little bullet to run and it should be just as fun to shoot.

Swede Nelson

[square butte]

Thank you Sir for sticking with us on this mold.

[Dannix]

Thank you, sir. I'm looking forward to this one.


Just finishing up

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i80/swedenelson/311465122GrFN001.jpg

Run the HP pins and should start to ship this weekend
This has been a fun little bullet to run and it should be just as fun to shoot.

Swede Nelson

[dromia]

Just finishing up

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i80/swedenelson/311465122GrFN001.jpg

Run the HP pins and should start to ship this weekend



This has been a fun little bullet to run and it should be just as fun to shoot.

Swede Nelson


Phwoarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrr!

[Kansas Ed]

Rifle should have arrived at the dealers yesterday. I am STOKED!!:bigsmyl2:

[square butte]

Mine arrived in the morning mail - A thing of beauty - As per usual. I won' have a chance to cast for a couple of weeks. Too hot here anyway. Pickles have taken precedence over boolits in this household at the moment. I don't have a camera - but if someone else does - it would be nice to see some photos, especially of the flat nose version.

[FLYCUTTER]

It came in today !!!! Thank you Al. The mold is smooth and a work of art.

[kbstenberg]

Mine arived today! Another fine mold Al.
Peas and getting the foodplot ready are taking my time. Beans, New R. Tates should be ready in a couple of days. Kevin

[Dannix]

Mine came in today as well.

Thanks again. :mrgreen:

[Cimarron Red]

Mine came today also. Thanks, Al!

[TCTex]

I bought mine off NOE's websight today!!!!!

Muwahahahahahaha!

[Fishman]

I got mine today, ran it through three heat cycles this evening, and cast up about 250 beautiful boolits. I can't figure out how to attach a pic from my iPhone unfortunately. Anyway, they dropped easily with a tap on the handle bolt. It looks like maybe 5-10% rejects mainly due to rounded bases and the occasional unfilled groove. I think that percentage will improve but there is just a lot going on with this design. Maybe I should have upped the temp but I was running it at 750 on my PID and preheating the mould sprue plate down on a hot plate on high. I have high hopes for this one.

[Dannix]

Maybe I should have upped the temp but I was running it at 750 on my PID and preheating the mould sprue plate down on a hot plate on high.
You can pick up a thermometer for your mould to see what the actual temperature of the mould is before you start casting. I'm using a Coverite "Pocket Thermometer", but since that only shows the surface temp, arguably the better route would be a traditional casting thermometer placed in one of the cavities or pick up one of NOE's temperature probes and drill your mould to accept it.

All that said, based on some of the reading I've done here, I've tried using a lower temperature pot (PIDed in the ~715F to 750F range) during my most recent casting sessions (which were during the autumn or winter, to be honest, so I don't recall the exact numbers), and I found I had a far better cull rate with the pot at hotter temps, ~800F iirc. This was with a proper temped pre-heated mould. That was with Miha's 9mmHP mould, but perhaps this loverin mould needs the same route.

/sorry for the thread hijack.

[Fishman]

I do have NOE's temperature probe and I think I had this one drilled for it. Thanks for reminding me!

[10x]

I can not wait to get this one.

I had no idea it would turn into a successful group buy when I sent the cast bullets to Swede. I appreciate and thank all who supported this group buy.

[square butte]

Always thought this would be a good one. Looking forward to trying the flat nose variant in 30 carbine and 32-20

[Rattlesnake Charlie]

Mine arrived a few days ago in Albuquerque.

[ballistim]

Mine arrived late last week, and I ordered the flat point to try in my .32/20 & .30 Herrett Contender bbls. I want to compare it to the Lee "soup can" to see how it does. I'm still looking at powder choices right now. I now have 4 new NOE molds and a MiHec mold arriving to cast and load for in several different guns, so I'm getting behind and have the Springfield & Garand matches coming up at Camp Perry soon so it might take me a while to break this one in. I think I've been kind of like a kid in a candy store since coming on the forum and getting in on all the great group buys, so I've been buying while working overtime to pay for them so I can cast when things slow down.

[Jeff Michel]

Thanks Al, great job.
Jeff Michel

[rollmyown]

I'm keen to see or hear about the results from the lucky owners of this one.

[Kansas Ed]

I cast some last weekend with this mould. They ran a little heavier with 1:20 than I expected. The HP's ran 128gr while the RN ran 131gr sized and lubed. I'm not sure where this will fall out with the 32-20, but will report later on testing. I found the mould a little finicky to start, but after a cool down and reheat of the mould, things started to work better. I probably ran 80-100 bullets as fast as I could hand pour on the first run at 730° with about a 5% save. After I cooled and reheated I got closer to 60% return on the bullets. This is my first aluminum mould, so there is a big learning curve here. I ran primarily two cavities for the first run, and left the third cavity empty. By the second run I was running three cavities, but the third one that was less used was still casting culls. I figure with a few more sessions it ought to run in pretty well when seasoned. I did the scrubbing with a toothbrush and soap right off the bat BTW. Setting the HP for me was a chore. It seemed to scallop when too deep, but cast heavy when too shallow. Got to get the hang of that. I attribute it to lack of heat in the mould. But I'm short a hot plate, so that may be an issue. More on test results later.

Ed

[Janoosh]

I just picked my mollds up this morning! Thanks to ALL who put this together!