310 gr GC and h110

[randyrat]

Where is max in this load? I'm shooting a Super Red Hawk 44 mag...And had my fun with the 240 gr boolits and H110..Now I'm looking at the heavy end of things and wandering what the Max is. Of course, I would work my way there and may not even get to max in my gun.

Just can't seem to find anything in stone with my data. I would like that boolit to reach at least 1100 ft/sec...1150 or faster is fine

I'm looking for a good 50 yd stable round for Deer. Something for close range knock down killing power. I may be hunting near some posted land and cannot enter so I need a Hammer load. If I see the Buck of my life I would want a load to shoot through both shoulders.

The posted land is a huge boyscout camp and they are anti hunting A.. faces. I've scouted this out and there are a number of big bucks in this area. My luck, I'd shoot one and watch it run right onto the posted land, not gonna happen if i can help it.

[454PB]

Are you using the rear crimp groove?

I do, and 21 grs. of H-110 or WW296 is my load in a Redhawk.

[midnight]

I must be getting old. I new I had a load for a 349gr bullet in the 44 mag. I seemed like I just loaded it recently so I startedd going through my log. I finally found it back in spring of 2006. anyway. The bullet was Lyman 429649 cast from Saeco 5 range lead with 2% tin added. 16gr of AA#9 drove it 1293fps. OAL was 1.682 so it was shot in a 12in Contender barrel. It shot all 5 shots into 2in @ 50yds. ES was 5.6 & Sd was 2.4. Not too shabby.
15gr AA#9 drove it 1211fps, ES = 11.4 & Sd = 5.1. Didn't record the accuracy on that one.

Bob

[randyrat]

Are you using the rear crimp groove?

I do, and 21 grs. of H-110 or WW296 is my load in a Redhawk.

Thanks for that and yes my rear is crimped, i mean crimp the rear groove, longest over all.

[44man]

The Lee 310 shoots the best for me with 21.5 gr of 296 and a Fed 150 primer. H110 should work the same.
I quit there because accuracy started downhill with more powder.
Groups closed evenly as I worked up and started to do the same as I went over. I am getting a little over 1300 fps with a 10" SBH.
The same load works in a SRH.
It is also great with a 320 gr LBT WLNCG but when I use my 330 gr, I drop to 21 gr.
I worked loads with a Fed 155 primer but never got them to shoot like I want. All groups tripled in size.
There is just no reason to go faster or look for max.
You need to spin the heavy boolits right and they don't like to be shot slow in the .44. Too fast is no good either.
I have had no problems to -10* and deer are dead! I use good case tension. Groups open a little in the cold but so far, all mag primers tests gave worse accuracy. Maybe -20* would need them.
I don't want that cold anyway at my age! [smilie=l:

[Lizard333]

Are you using the rear crimp groove?

I do, and 21 grs. of H-110 or WW296 is my load in a Redhawk.

I just got done shoot some 300 grain boolits with only 20 gns of H110 and I though that was about as hot as I felt comfortable shooting. I was shooting them in a redhawk with a 7.5 inch barrel and the primers were very flat. I didn't have any issues ejecting the brass, but if I was shooting a lesser pistol I would have stopped. This was the max load listed in my data. I have heard of guys going to 22 grains, but personally I think they are nuts. I like to enjoy shooting not killing my hands. Good luck.

[Three44s]

21.1 gr. of H110 with the Federal 155 primer pushing either the Lee 310 gr. or a Grier's GC'ed HC weighing 320 gr. in a Ruger RH and a SRH. Crimped for the longer overall cartridge length.

My accuracy ran out at 180 yds when I tried to charge heavier than that.


Three 44s

[randyrat]

The Lee 310 shoots the best for me with 21.5 gr of 296 and a Fed 150 primer. H110 should work the same.
I quit there because accuracy started downhill with more powder.
Groups closed evenly as I worked up and started to do the same as I went over. I am getting a little over 1300 fps with a 10" SBH.
The same load works in a SRH.
It is also great with a 320 gr LBT WLNCG but when I use my 330 gr, I drop to 21 gr.
I worked loads with a Fed 155 primer but never got them to shoot like I want. All groups tripled in size.
There is just no reason to go faster or look for max.
You need to spin the heavy boolits right and they don't like to be shot slow in the .44. Too fast is no good either.
I have had no problems to -10* and deer are dead! I use good case tension. Groups open a little in the cold but so far, all mag primers tests gave worse accuracy. Maybe -20* would need them.
I don't want that cold anyway at my age! [smilie=l: Just seems 1100 FT/SEC is the magical bottom for those heavy boolits in my gun. I've tried 10-11 grs of Unique, never got any good accuracy and refuse to play with such a fast powder further on.

[454PB]

The load I listed chronographs 1230 fps. in my 7 1/2" Redhawk.

I also use 13.5 grs. of Bluedot with the same boolit for 1100 fps and good stability.

[white eagle]

I use 21.5 gr h 110
with a 310 Accurate boolit

[TCLouis]

Lee C 429-310 and 18.5 is the most accurate load I have ever shoot out of my Super Redhawk. at 50 yards, I shot up to 21.5, but 18.5 was most accurate.

I may be wrong, but if you hit where you should, I think this will have a fatal impression on a deer.

[44man]

Yes they do, you don't need a lot of velocity for hunting.
Remember that I use a standard primer, just the primers guys use can change the loads.
In the .475 I got a heavy boolit to shoot good with HS-6 but I never chronographed it.
I don't work with other powders much but maybe the right one would allow a slower boolit.

[SP101GUY]

21gr of H110 on the Lee 310 with a gc is my favorite load also. Great in my RH and a real thumper in my 77/44.

[HammerMTB]

Handloader #265 lists 23 of H110 (I use WW296, same thing) as max with the 310 hard cast 310gr boolit. It is what I use when I call bear. It's a prety high adrenaline rush when they are 20-25 yards out, nose in the air, snufflin' lookin' for a meal. Not a time for light loads. They will put a hole thru a bear from one end to the other. These make 1350FPS in my 9.5" SRH
The load is VERY heavy, and the magazine suggests it NOT be used in lighter .44 Mag chambered guns.
Work up your own max, and don't wreck your S&W's or Taurus with these!



Where is max in this load? I'm shooting a Super Red Hawk 44 mag...And had my fun with the 240 gr boolits and H110..Now I'm looking at the heavy end of things and wandering what the Max is. Of course, I would work my way there and may not even get to max in my gun.

Just can't seem to find anything in stone with my data. I would like that boolit to reach at least 1100 ft/sec...1150 or faster is fine

I'm looking for a good 50 yd stable round for Deer. Something for close range knock down killing power. I may be hunting near some posted land and cannot enter so I need a Hammer load. If I see the Buck of my life I would want a load to shoot through both shoulders.

The posted land is a huge boyscout camp and they are anti hunting A.. faces. I've scouted this out and there are a number of big bucks in this area. My luck, I'd shoot one and watch it run right onto the posted land, not gonna happen if i can help it.

[randyrat]

21gr of H110 on the Lee 310 with a gc is my favorite load also. Great in my RH and a real thumper in my 77/44. Thant 77/44 is a very neat, very cool little bolt gun. I like them a bunch.. I think I need one some day. Or at least buy my youngest son one some day and of course I'll have to break it in.

[44man]

Thant 77/44 is a very neat, very cool little bolt gun. I like them a bunch.. I think I need one some day. Or at least buy my youngest son one some day and of course I'll have to break it in.
It is a tricky gun with the rotary magazine. Like the .44 semi auto, many boolits will not fit. I had some fine shooting with them but some boolits had to be loaded single shot.

[SP101GUY]

Like 44man said, they can only be loaded so long. I load to the top crimp groove or they would not fit in the magazine. I load them long for the RH.

A J

[doubledown]

I load a 310 over 19.5 grains of W296 in my Marlin 1894 and get 1600 fps and incredible accuracy. It is my go to load, and all I load in that rifle period. Fantastic load. Mild recoil and hard hitting.

[ghh3rd]

As 44MAN said:

The Lee 310 shoots the best for me with 21.5 gr of 296 and a Fed 150 primer. H110 should work the same.
I quit there because accuracy started downhill with more powder.
Groups closed evenly as I worked up and started to do the same as I went over. I am getting a little over 1300 fps with a 10" SBH.

I used his advice a coulple of years ago for my Ruger SBH, using 296 powder and a Fed150 primer and had good results. Then I stepped my load from lower than 21.5 gr to higher, and could clearly see the groups close most at 21.5 and start to open again as I went higher. As I recall, 21.5 was giving me about 1380 fps with the 310 gr Lee boolit. If I choose to shoot more than 12 of these, I find myself reaching for my glove.

Randy