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metweezer
11-04-2011, 05:04 PM
My sprue plate keeps coming loose when I bang the sprue off of it or just opening and closing the sprue plate. I am using my Lee 6 cavity mold and the top bolt keeps coming loose. Am I alone in experiencing this problem? If not, what do you do to solve this? :confused:
Thanks, Steve

462
11-04-2011, 05:10 PM
Go to the top of this page and read the second and third stickies. You need to install a set screw. Add one to the sprue cutter stop bolt, too.

Wally
11-04-2011, 05:15 PM
I have the same problem with some of mine. A set screw is a great idea but a bit tricky if you don't have a drill press. You can try using a small strip of aluminum from a soda can---you place it in the screw hole then attach the screw. This works for me. Others have use fine steel wool... Good luck!

sig2009
11-04-2011, 05:16 PM
Been using the Lee 6 cav molds for a couple months now with no problem with the sprue plates coming loose. I don't have to bang the mold to get the sprue off. It just drops off if the mold is up to temp.

metweezer
11-04-2011, 05:31 PM
I don't have a drill press, or even a vise. Would the liquid blue thread lock work?

wiljen
11-04-2011, 05:42 PM
Send it to me. I'll leement it and send it back to you. That sound like it would work?

Boolseye
11-04-2011, 05:47 PM
They do all come loose periodically, but it shouldn't be constant. I just keep the necessary wrenches on the table as I cast to keep things firmed down when they get a little loose (don't over-tighten and strip anything!) Is your mold properly lubed at all times? I think I put never-sieze on the bolts of all my molds–kind of the opposite of locktight :)

Are you cutting the sprue soon enough? Are you being fairly gentle with that aluminum Lee mold? All these things help keep things flowing smoothly and reduce the rate at which stuff comes loose and/or breaks.

williamwaco
11-04-2011, 05:51 PM
I keep a 7/16 nut driver beside my stiring spoon.

About every 8 to 10 fillings the mold gets hot enough it needs to cool a little. That is when I inspect and sort bullets, add an ingot, flux, and oh yes, tighten up all the loose nuts.

metweezer
11-04-2011, 06:06 PM
Send it to me. I'll leement it and send it back to you. That sound like it would work?

Wiljen, You're kidding, right? I didn't read anything about securing the bolt on the sprue plate in the Leementing thread and I haven't leemented the mold at all, just used alcohol and blackened the mold with a bic lighter and all my boolits are dropping fine.


They do all come loose periodically, but it shouldn't be constant. I just keep the necessary wrenches on the table as I cast to keep things firmed down when they get a little loose (don't over-tighten and strip anything!) Is your mold properly lubed at all times? I think I put never-sieze on the bolts of all my molds–kind of the opposite of locktight :)

Are you cutting the sprue soon enough? Are you being fairly gentle with that aluminum Lee mold? All these things help keep things flowing smoothly and reduce the rate at which stuff comes loose and/or breaks.

I used bullplate when I first broke in my mold and have made about 600 boolits. I haven't felt the need to use boolplate again. The hotter the mold gets the easier the sprue plate opens.

wiljen
11-04-2011, 06:55 PM
Wiljen, You're kidding, right? I didn't read anything about securing the bolt on the sprue plate in the Leementing thread and I haven't leemented the mold at all, just used alcohol and blackened the mold with a bic lighter and all my boolits are dropping fine.



Not kidding at all. Part of the process of Leementing the molds is to drill and tap the sprue plate screw hole for a set screw from the side.
This shows it http://www.castpics.net/subsite2/MoldMods/LeementingKitDocumentation.pdf

I am more than willing to do the work, if you pay the shipping.

Boolseye
11-04-2011, 07:10 PM
That set screw would do it, alright. Darn friendly offer, Wiljen.

metweezer
11-04-2011, 07:20 PM
Not kidding at all. Part of the process of Leementing the molds is to drill and tap the sprue plate screw hole for a set screw from the side.
This shows it http://www.castpics.net/subsite2/MoldMods/LeementingKitDocumentation.pdf

I am more than willing to do the work, if you pay the shipping.

Wiljen,
This sounds too good to be true. I have the 6 cavity mold unlike the one you show in the above link. Do I have to put in a screw when you drill/tap your hole and if so what size screw? If you will PM me your name and address I will ship my mold to you and include return shipping and any other fees necessary,
Thanks, Steve

metweezer
11-04-2011, 07:24 PM
That set screw would do it, alright. Darn friendly offer, Wiljen.

Tell me about it! What a guy! I am taking him up on his very generous offer.

wiljen
11-04-2011, 08:02 PM
I have the cup screws to fit and will go ahead and mount the screw plate back and test it. It will be a standard 8-32 thread so if you needed to replace it you could easily.

metweezer
11-04-2011, 09:18 PM
Thanks Will,
I will try to get this mold off to you tomorrow. Thanks so much,
Steve

Sonnypie
11-04-2011, 11:17 PM
I don't have a drill press, or even a vise. Would the liquid blue thread lock work?

The blue Loctite Thread Locker is what I have been using on my molds that have done that.
Put a complete stop to the nonsense without messing things up.
I also put a tiny drop of paraffin wax on the screw/plate pivot point. It has been a reliable lube for me, for all of the moving joints of my molds.
Anytime it gets sluggish or acts sticky, just a touch of the butt of a candle.

leadman
11-05-2011, 12:21 AM
If the hole gets too worn out or threads stripped completly you can use the Loctite Stud & Bearing Mount formula. This stuff is very high temp and works great. You do have to heat it with a torch to get it back apart though.

I had a tapered bearing race wear a groove in the front axle of my old Dakota. Peened the area and degreased it, put this in, installed the bearing race, let it set until the next day and it is still running now about 6 years later. Used it alot when I was a heavy equipment mechanic also.

JIMinPHX
11-05-2011, 01:45 AM
I've had good luck with 8-32 set screws. I usually put a piece of lead shot under them to keep the screw threads from getting boogered up.

ColColt
11-05-2011, 07:38 PM
Thanks Will,
I will try to get this mold off to you tomorrow. Thanks so much,
Steve

All I can say is you must be living right.;)

wiljen
11-07-2011, 09:18 PM
Hey Met, this look like what you had in mind?


Hope so cuz it is on its way back to you.

metweezer
11-08-2011, 09:12 AM
Will,
You're unbelievable! According to the post office, you weren't supposed to receive it until today (Tuesday). If there is ever anything I can do for you, just ask. You are an amazing person. Thank you once again.
Steve

Char-Gar
11-08-2011, 11:40 AM
This is common with Lee six cavity molds and as others have said, a set screw is the best fix.

metweezer
11-12-2011, 08:52 PM
I have the cup screws to fit and will go ahead and mount the screw plate back and test it. It will be a standard 8-32 thread so if you needed to replace it you could easily.

Will,
You're the best. You did a fantastic job. Can't wait to use it again. Thank you once again, so very much.
Steve

sig2009
11-12-2011, 09:39 PM
That set screw would do it, alright. Darn friendly offer, Wiljen.

All the set screws in my RCBS and Lyman molds work for ****. Even when tightened down the bolt still works itself lose!

kbstenberg
11-12-2011, 09:52 PM
Steve another trick is to get some waive washers an put under the bolt that holds the sprueplate on.
Kevin