One boolit for 30/30 and 308?

[harley45]

I have a Savage 99 in 308 and a 94 in 30/30 that I want to start casting for. The primary purpose of this boolit will be hog hunting and I'd like one mold for both rifles, any suggestions?

[waco]

Try Lyman 311041. 173 gr FP GC.
Waco

[Baja_Traveler]

+1

You are going to want a nice meplat for hunting anyway, and this is a proven design.

[softpoint]

I use the RCBS .30 180 for .308, 30/06 and 30/30, and have used it in my bolt action 7.62x39.

[kelbro]

Lee 309-170 flatpoint.

[helice]

Don't overlook Ranch Dog's 30-30/308 boolit. That's a sweet number with a serious meplat.

[Bret4207]

Rcbs 30-180fn

[LUCKYDAWG13]

+1

You are going to want a nice meplat for hunting anyway, and this is a proven design.

+ 2 on that i use in my 308 and 30/06

[pls1911]

All of the recommendations above are excellent, and I have and use every single one of them.
My personal favorite is the RanchDog 165, (or the NOE equivalent with standard lube grooves) as it is optimized for the 30-30 and has the largest meplat of the bunch.
I'll tell you it's a fine pig slappin' bullet!!
Followed closely is the RCBS 180, which has a near equal meplat size and the benefit of extra weight. I don't need more than 36" of penetration, so I rarely use this one... it's also a bit moure recoil.

Not mentioned often is the SAECO #316, which is a rough equal to the Lyman with a smaller meplat. SAECO liturature indicates this to be a 150 grain bullet, but mine cast at 160 grains and casts about .313. I cast and shoot more of these than anything, inasmuch as my $25 four cavity mold throws pile of bullets +/- 1 grain all day long...FAST.
I shoot premicrogroove Marlins, so bullets are sized at .311 or .312.

I cast soft (10bhn) and heat treat hard (28bhn) for a bullet which will perform fine at 1900-2100 fps and remain maleable enough not to break up on impact.... and never leave a trace of leading.

I've never recovered any of the above from deer or pigs, as they seem to fully penetrate through from any angle, and leaving substantial through-holes and critters DRT.

Inasmuch as cast bullet velocities will not normally exceed the 30-30 levels, all the above comments apply equally to the .308, and have proven nice rounds in my Savage 99, and Winchester 94 as well as some '93 Spanish Mausers, and a friends Remington.

[pls1911]

all of the recommendations above are excellent, and I have and use every single one of them.
Personal favorite is the RanchDog 165, (or the NOE equivalent with standard lube grooves)as it is optimized for the 30-30 and has the largest meplat of the bunch.
I'll tell you it's a fine pig slappin' bullet!!
Followed closely is the RCBS 180, which has a near equal meplat size and the benefit of extra weight. I don't need more than 36" of penetration, so I rarely use this one... it's also a bit moure recoil.

Not mentioned often is the SAECO #316, which is a rough equal to the Lyman with a smaller meplat. AECO liturature indicates this to be a 150 grain bullet, but mine cast at 160 grains and casts abpit .313. I cast and shoot more of these than anything, inasmuch as my $25 four cavity mold throws bullets +/- 1 grain all day long.
becaus I shoot premicrogroove Marlins, I size at .311 or .312.

I cast soft (10bhn) and heat treat gard (28bhn) for a bullet which will perform fine at 1900-2100 fps and remain maleable enough not to break up on impact.... and never leave a trace of leading.

I've never recovered any of the above from deer or pigs, as they seem to fully penetrate through from any angle, and leaving substantial through-holes and critters DRT.

Inasmuch as cast bullet velocities will not exceed the 30-30 levels, all the above apply equally to the .308, and have proven nice rounds in my Savage 99, and Winchester 94 as well as some '93 Spanish Mausers, and a friends Remington.

[kelbro]

I like the RanchDog but I have to trim the brass to get it to fit in my pre-64 Win 94. Michael designed them for Marlins.

I don't know if my '94 has a shorter chamber or throat but I also have to seat the Lee 170 just a little deep. That bullet may work in your.

[Ranch Dog]

I like the RanchDog but I have to trim the brass to get it to fit in my pre-64 Win 94. Michael designed them for Marlins.

If my TLC311-165-RF has been a tight fit, you might look at my C311-170-RF (http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_5_16&products_id=129) that I released yesterday to help those with tight chambers. It retains the .311 body but the nose diameter is .303 to help keep it at a full OAL. This bullet has standard lube grooves but will be available as a TLC around the first of the year.

http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/images/C311170RF_01.jpg (http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_5_16&products_id=129)

These bullets are very similar, the original suits large chamber cuts and the new bullet tighter chambers. The original bullet will be also available with standard lube grooves shortly.

[jlchucker]

That's a fine looking boolit, Michael. Are you going to offer standard lube grooves in any of your other molds? Or maybe in two-cavity products as well?

[Four Fingers of Death]

Great looking boolit!

I always heard great things about the 311291, that is until I was gifted one by one of the brethren here who had a spare. Hardly a mention since! :)

[Ranch Dog]

That's a fine looking boolit, Michael. Are you going to offer standard lube grooves in any of your other molds? Or maybe in two-cavity products as well?

Initially, the 30, 35, 44, and 45 caliber bullets. By this time next year I hope to have all these in both styles of grooves plus a couple of new designs.

[kelbro]

I may have to order one. I like the way the original one shoots once I got it 'fitted'. Kills very well too. Didn't do too much damage to my pork.

Wish that guy hadn't gone out of business that was making the Waxmeisters before I got a .312 cutter. (I'm a pan luber)

[30hrrtt]

You will need to do a chamber cast or at least insert a flatbase bullet backward in a fired case and get an idea of your throat length to pick a dual rifle cast.

I have a 99 in 308 that has a .312 throat that is .35 long. I inserted a flat base jacketed backwards in a fired case and didn't believe it so did a cast. I have several lee molds but none of them can come close in the body to get near the rifling. The rcbs 180 flat point would but I recently ordered the gb lyman 311041 and by the drawing, it should come close.

I wanted the same mold to work in my 30 herrett and 30-30 ai. The herret has throat that is .25 long but my 30-30 ai is very short.

I'm glad the lee is cheap as it does work in the the herrett and ai but I can't get even reasonable accuracy with them in the 308.

By the drawing the 311041 will stick below the neck quite a bit in the 30-30 ai.

One mold may or may not work but you need to know what your throats are.

[1Shirt]

The Ranch Dog is durn hard to beat for what you want!
1Shirt!:coffeecom