Pewter pictures and hallmarks...

[imashooter2]

With all the recent "Is this pewter?" posts, I thought a picture thread might be timely. Feel free to add any that you may have as well.

For the novice pewter hunter, notice the form and thickness of the pieces. The handles are all soldered on, never cast in or riveted. The bodies of the pieces are relatively thin, often with rolled edges to thicken them up for strength. Wilton, Sexton and Pewterex items are not genuine pewter.

http://imashooter2.com/pewter/pewter600.jpg

The plate:
http://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall1.jpg

The creamer / sugar:
http://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall3.jpg

The bowl:
http://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall2.jpg

Another creamer and sugar:
http://imashooter2.com/pewter/pewtera600.jpg
http://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall4.jpg

Just the hallmark from a nice heavy compote I picked up:
http://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall5.jpg

Some mugs have a glass bottom. The glass and caulking weighs 2.5 to 3 ounces...
http://imashooter2.com/pewter/mug600.jpg
http://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall-mug350.jpg

[imashooter2]

Be careful when you buy candlesticks, The bases are often weighted. Set your price accordingly:

http://imashooter2.com/pewter/CSmark.jpg

1 pound 6 ounces before...
http://imashooter2.com/pewter/CSbefore600.jpg

9.8 ounces after. The shell on the base is only .020 inch thick.
http://imashooter2.com/pewter/CSafter600.jpg

[old wanderer]

I really have to ignore this thread.....

10 years ago while in Kuala Lumpur, I bought a bunch of put of pewter, that now sits in my dinning room. I went to a very large factory and thats all they produced was pewter ware.

If I even looked like I was going to melt some of it down, I think my wife would pass the death sentence on me.

:violin:

[bumpo628]

Here's a weighted candlestick I picked up at a thrift store for $1.50 the other day.

It weighed 12 oz before:
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r298/bumpo628/IMG_20110929_183312.jpg

Here's the hallmark:
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r298/bumpo628/IMG_20110929_183226.jpg

It weighed 4 oz after:
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r298/bumpo628/IMG_20110929_184000.jpg

So, it was 2/3 petrified llama excrement. Ended up paying $6 per pound for the tin.

[fryboy]

i bought a set of weighted candlestix , havent torn them up yet but on these it's plain to see that the weight is a steel bottom plate ( no foto yet but for 75 cents each i dont figure i got hurt too bad ) what did hurt was i also picked up a lil souvenir type silver washed platter and creamer from the worlds fair in 1936 in tejas corresponding with the tejas centennial ...what hurt was i was told i'm going to hades if i melt something like that down ....leads me to believe i should sell the set outright and let some one else go :P

[imashooter2]

Here's some little bear figurines from Avon. About 2.5 ounces each...

http://imashooter2.com/pewter/avon-600.jpg
http://imashooter2.com/pewter/hallavon-350.jpg

[odinohi]

Here's some little bear figurines from Avon. About 2.5 ounces each...

http://home.comcast.net/~imashooter2/pictures/avon-600.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~imashooter2/pictures/hallavon-350.jpg

I have those same bears. Thats the only pewter that I wont melt. All the rest of the "keepsakes" are going in the pot. Gonna make some tin soldiers out of them. The bears are going to my daughterinlaws as they give me grandchildren. I would like to buy your set if you would like to sell it, or maybe trade you 2lbs of pewter for it.

[a.squibload]

Here's a weighted candlestick I picked up at a thrift store for $1.50 the other day...

I got a couple of those exactly the same, 96¢ ea, I figured it would be sand
in the base but it was that brown stuff. Smells like hide glue or something.

I'm sure it's SOMETHING...:-?

[onesonek]

This has likely been asked before,,, but does anybody no what the general composition or alloy is of those typical cast belt buckles. One's I have, have no real value to me, and I touched a torch to one, it seems to melt rather easily.

[fryboy]

This has likely been asked before,,, but does anybody no what the general composition or alloy is of those typical cast belt buckles. One's I have, have no real value to me, and I touched a torch to one, it seems to melt rather easily.

tough question , some state pewter , these get melted down , but there are so many other alloys and metals that they can use it leaves wild guesses at best if unmarked , look up " spin casting " and the metals used , there's alot of them , worse some alloys marked pewter have high lead content yet are still what is deemed pewter , food service items are usually higher tin content with little to no lead , decorations etc tend to run towards more chances of having lead in the mix ( like my chinese ducks or ricker's pewter knick knacks )

[imashooter2]

Found this great web site. Hundreds of 20th century hallmarks...

http://www.pewtertankardsflagons.com/

Site went defunct. Here is a link to Pewter Tankards and Flagons on The Wayback Machine. Not sure how long this will stay active, but for now it looks like the whole site is there intact.

http://web.archive.org/web/20110626145553/http://pewtertankardsflagons.com/

[imashooter2]

A pair of 12 inch bowls puts another 5 pounds on the pile:

http://imashooter2.com/pewter/bowls.jpg

http://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall-bowls.jpg

[edler7]

I came across a large plate at a yard sale the other day stamped "Mexican Pewter". It was a soft metal, but had a shine to it like dried solder. I passed on it due to it's shine and being unfamiliar with the term.

Anybody else found anything marked like this or know what it might have been ?

[runfiverun]

look at the websight posted above, it has tons of stampings.

[imashooter2]

Bad cell pic..
http://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall6.jpg

[troy_mclure]

ive got a pitcher and a finger-hut wreath ornament(1.4lbs) for $6.

[lylejb]

I came across a large plate at a yard sale the other day stamped "Mexican Pewter". It was a soft metal, but had a shine to it like dried solder. I passed on it due to it's shine and being unfamiliar with the term.

Anybody else found anything marked like this or know what it might have been ?

I picked up a ornimental tray at a thrift store, with stickers on it " lead free Mundo de Pewter sin plombo" and a " made in mexico".

It was thick enough that it wouldn't bend easily by hand, but would flatten with a hammer.

I cut a chunk from it and dropped it in my (empty) lee pot,and turned it on 4, just as I had with prior hallmarked pewter.

And I waited........and waited........and waited.........it wasn't melting.

I threw in a sizable chunk of wax, which ignited. OK, now I have fire inside the pot, and electric heat outside the pot

and I waited, ..........and waited........and it's still not melting, just blackened by soot from the wax.

I don't have a casting thermometer to check what the temp must have been, but it was WAY higher that the other pewter i've melted.

I think "Mundo de Pewter" has a different idea than us of what "pewter" should be.

A google search shows Mundo de pewter as a tourist shop in Puerto Vallarta, mexico.

[imashooter2]

A porringer I just picked up. These are from Holland:

http://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall7.jpg


http://imashooter2.com/pewter/por600.jpg

[imashooter2]

An 11 inch bowl. Nice heavy one, 3 pounds 5 ounces!

http://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall8a.jpg http://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall8b.jpg

http://imashooter2.com/pewter/11bowl-600.jpg

[meak99]

Whole set
http://i1098.photobucket.com/albums/g363/meak99/DSCN0305.jpg

Glass bottom mug
http://i1098.photobucket.com/albums/g363/meak99/DSCN0311.jpg
http://i1098.photobucket.com/albums/g363/meak99/DSCN0310.jpg

Creamer & Sugar
http://i1098.photobucket.com/albums/g363/meak99/DSCN0308.jpg

Cup
http://i1098.photobucket.com/albums/g363/meak99/DSCN0307.jpg

Pitcher
http://i1098.photobucket.com/albums/g363/meak99/DSCN0312.jpg

[Reload3006]

I am a little lost here what exactly do we plan to use the Pewter for? and why?

[imashooter2]

I am a little lost here what exactly do we plan to use the Pewter for? and why?

Modern pewter is 85% or better tin and can be bought at yard sales and thrift stores at very attractive prices as compared to most other sources.

[fryboy]

here's a picture of a pitcher and hallmark , this was a pretty good score - about 24 oz. for $.75 plus tax :mrgreen: note that it's pretty beat up ( in addition to the umm hammered finish :P )

[imashooter2]

75 cents American?

You was robbed! 8-)


Reload3006, that is a perfect example of the "attractive prices" I was referring to...

[fryboy]

ummm you must mean the 6 or 9 cents i was forced to pay as tax :P it is fixable ( other than just smelting ...even love the duckbill look of it ) it is solid all things considered and would make a great milk pitcher ( bet that was it's original use too )

[imashooter2]

Just tugging your chain. That was a way better than average price. As for fixing it... Not around here. That's boolit sweetener if I ever saw it. :)

[fryboy]

yeah i know lolz but it did push my 2 dollar investment goblets further back from the edge of my "smelt soon" pile ;) ( sadly however the hallmark didnt want to come out very good [dratz] )

[imashooter2]

A nine inch vase, a little over a pound.
http://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall9.jpg
http://imashooter2.com/pewter/vase.jpg

[JohnFM]

I'd be checking the value of some of those old pewter pieces before I just melted them down for some scrap pewter.

[imashooter2]

I'd be checking the value of some of those old pewter pieces before I just melted them down for some scrap pewter.

Get that all the time. Go check out eBay and see what actually sells for more than the price of scrap tin. You can "value" that dented vase at $500, but if you can't sell it, it isn't worth squat.

[mold maker]

If ya want to sell it at a good price on ebay, just call it a VINTAGE piece. That will really increase it's value.

[imashooter2]

An 11.5 inch platter, 1 pound 6 ounces:

http://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall10.jpg
http://imashooter2.com/pewter/platter1.jpg

[gbrown]

It's a shame what all of you are melting down!! I'd almost say it was a disgrace!! However, what I melted down the other day would probably make a lot of collectors cry their eyes out or drop to their knees. Hee, Hee. Make more good boolits!!

[bumpo628]

I found an unmarked plate that looks like pewter at the thrift store today. It does have a hallmark of an angel, but it is otherwise unlabeled. Any ideas?

[Rotaxxx]

This thread is a great idea, I was browsing a second hand store this week and was looking for some pewter and I wasn't sure what to look for. Now I do!

[imashooter2]

I found an unmarked plate that looks like pewter at the thrift store today. It does have a hallmark of an angel, but it is otherwise unlabeled. Any ideas?


The angel hallmark is usually German / Swiss / Austrian pewter. I've seen the angel stamped in logo form, line art and even a "dot matrix" style. Does it say "Zinn" on it anywhere? Zinn is German for tin. Here are a few examples:

http://www.pewtertankardsflagons.com/web_images/quist_pewter_creamer.jpg http://www.pewtertankardsflagons.com/web_images/anton_rapold__zurich__switzerland..jpg http://www.pewtertankardsflagons.com/web_images/e._zint___co.jpg

[Jim Flinchbaugh]

I found pewter at all of the local thrift stores, they think it's gold, like 12 bucks for a wine goblet, 14 bucks for a 7 inch platter, they can keep it.

[gbrown]

I found pewter at all of the local thrift stores, they think it's gold, like 12 bucks for a wine goblet, 14 bucks for a 7 inch platter, they can keep it.

I've seen some like that. With the pewter I have gotten, about 5 lbs so far, if it is good, around 90-92% tin, I've been paying about $4.00/lb for tin. With tin selling for around $17.00/lb retail, that's not bad. A lot of people look at the artistical value of it, not poundage as we do. It just depends what you want. There is a lot of good pewter out of a village/town in Holland named Tiel. I'm looking at a coffee/tea set at an antique shop for $50.00. It says Zuiver Tin, which can be translated as pure or near pure. If I can get it down to $35 or $40, I'll probably go for it. 5-7 lbs.

[imashooter2]

My personal limit is $5 a pound, but if you average out the 30+ pounds I have in the basement, it would come out at less than $3 a pound. The secret is in knowing what things weigh and walking away when the price isn't right.

Low cost lead stashes are built over years of scrounging. Pewter is the same way.

[bumpo628]

The angel hallmark is usually German / Swiss / Austrian pewter. I've seen the angel stamped in logo form, line art and even a "dot matrix" style. Does it say "Zinn" on it anywhere? Zinn is German for tin. Here are a few examples:

http://www.pewtertankardsflagons.com/web_images/quist_pewter_creamer.jpg http://www.pewtertankardsflagons.com/web_images/anton_rapold__zurich__switzerland..jpg http://www.pewtertankardsflagons.com/web_images/e._zint___co.jpg

Thanks for posting those images. The one I saw had an angel that was looking to the right so that the wings were on the left, not symmetrical. Most of those angels don't say pewter, tin or zinn, so chances are this one is pewter too. I don't think it said "zinn", but I'll have to go back and take another look. The price is right, so I think it's worth a try. I'll just smelt it separately and see what it looks like.

[imashooter2]

A 7 inch Woodbury porringer (same hallmark as on page one). A little beat up, but for a buck, it'll melt just fine. :)

http://imashooter2.com/pewter/7inporringer-600.jpg

[onesonek]

Thanks for posting those images. The one I saw had an angel that was looking to the right so that the wings were on the left, not symmetrical. Most of those angels don't say pewter, tin or zinn, so chances are this one is pewter too. I don't think it said "zinn", but I'll have to go back and take another look. The price is right, so I think it's worth a try. I'll just smelt it separately and see what it looks like.


The angel hallmark is usually German / Swiss / Austrian pewter. I've seen the angel stamped in logo form, line art and even a "dot matrix" style. Does it say "Zinn" on it anywhere? Zinn is German for tin. Here are a few examples:

http://www.pewtertankardsflagons.com/web_images/quist_pewter_creamer.jpg http://www.pewtertankardsflagons.com/web_images/anton_rapold__zurich__switzerland..jpg http://www.pewtertankardsflagons.com/web_images/e._zint___co.jpg


I kinda lost track of this thread. My experience with Pewter is limited, so any information and knowledge is very welcome.
But to the point, I picked up a Flagon. I searched that for a Halmark, and found an Angel Halmark. What I found extremely odd, is it was inside on the bottom.
Has anybody seen that before, or is this a rarity?

[imashooter2]

I kinda lost track of this thread. My experience with Pewter is limited, so any information and knowledge is very welcome.
But to the point, I picked up a Flagon. I searched that for a Halmark, and found an Angel Halmark. What I found extremely odd, is it was inside on the bottom.
Has anybody seen that before, or is this a rarity?

The bowls in post 12 are hallmarked on the inside near the rim. You can sort of see them in the lower bowl on the back edge in the picture before the close-up. The porringer in post 13 is also hallmarked on a visible surface (the handle). I wouldn't call it common, but it does occur.

[onesonek]

Thanks iamashooter2,,,,wondered as in my searches on halmarks seemed to all be on the outside bottom when pictured

[hickfu]

I go to the local swap meet every week and walk away with a bag full of pewter for not that much. The other day I saw a tea pot that was pretty good size 1.5lbs or so but he wanted 5.00 for it so I walked off and found 2 mugs that weighed more for 2.00 a piece. I went back to the guy and showed him the price tags on the mugs, he said 3.00 and I took it. Im now at around 28 to 30 lbs of pewter. I dont think I need any more but I just cant pass it up when I find it at a good price.


Doc

[captaint]

Surprised I haven't seen anything marked Henry Ford Museum. I've melted a few of them down. They were busted up anyhow.... Mike

[imashooter2]

A 7 inch vase. Half a pound.

http://imashooter2.com/pewter/vase2-600.jpg http://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall11.jpg

[birdadly]

Today I ran into my first little bit of pewter that I decided to buy; hopefully it's good. $5 for the 3 pieces. Actually, I like the look of the pair of candle holders... might keep those... oops.

If someone sees this and knows it's not good, real pewter, let me know and I'll take the pic down so I don't lead others astray! -Brad

[imashooter2]

That's all good modern pewter. You really can't go wrong buying hallmarked pieces. Thanks for the addition!

[letsmeltlead2693]

Here is a pic of the hallmark on my piece of pewter. The pewter has scratches and some gouges but no dents and is shiny on the inside. The piece of pewter is a small shallow teapot.

http://www.jigcraft.com/jigcraft/attachment.php?aid=2900

[dpaultx]

I posted this image in another thread here earlier today, but thought that it was worth repeating in this thread.

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/imagehosting/88754fa56f892e03a.jpg

This was a garage sale find of a, once silver colored, tea service set that was stamped Benedict Pewter on the bottom of the tea pot. The creamer and sugar bowl were marked Noble Pewter, and the bowl looking piece was marked Pilgrim - Solid Pewter along with a couple of hallmarks.

My total investment in the four piece set, all 3-1/2 pounds of it, was $3.

In attempting to research these pieces (to determine if they had any value beyond just their metal content), I ran across this site, Pewter Tankards & Flagons (http://www.pewtertankardsflagons.com/) which has a really comprehensive database of genuine pewter manufacturers names, stampings, and hallmarks. The names are all listed alphabetically along with photographs of the stampings and hallmarks and even includes a brief history of the particular manufacturer. The site also lists stampings and hallmarks of similar silver-plated and aluminum items which helps to remove a lot of the mystery about what sort of metal you're actually dealing with.

All three of the different stampings/hallmarks on the four items that I scrounged today were listed on this site. Along with thousands of others.

http://www.pewtertankardsflagons.com/web_images/benedict_revere_pewter.jpg
Benedict Pewter. Benedict Manufacturing Company, East Syracuse, New York. Founded in 1894. Out of business in 1953.

http://www.pewtertankardsflagons.com/web_images/pilgrim_4.jpg
Pilgrim Solid Pewter. Trademark of the Friedman Silver Company, Brooklyn, New York. Founded c.1908. Bought by Gorham in 1960.

http://www.pewtertankardsflagons.com/web_images/noble_pewter.jpg
Noble Pewter. Noble Studio Metalarts, Chicago, Illinois, c.1929

Might want to bookmark that site for future reference.

All good . . . Doug

[Down South]

My stash.
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/picture.php?albumid=6&pictureid=5346

[imashooter2]

An 11 x 6 inch candy dish... 10.5 ounces. It is another piece of Web pewter, but the hallmark is a little different.

http://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall12.jpg
http://imashooter2.com/pewter/candy-600.jpg

[imashooter2]

A 6 inch bud vase, only 3.4 ounces...

http://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall13.jpghttp://imashooter2.com/pewter/bud-400.jpg

[imashooter2]

Another vase. 6.5 inches tall and nice heavy walls, 13.7 ounces.


http://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall14.jpghttp://imashooter2.com/pewter/vase3-600.jpg

[shotman]

watch the candle holders.. they have weights in bottom

[imashooter2]

watch the candle holders.. they have weights in bottom

Those pieces are generally marked "weighted." There are some pictures on the first page showing the losses.

[imashooter2]

Another mug. 7 inches tall, 12 ounces.

http://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall15.jpg
http://imashooter2.com/pewter/muga-600.jpg

[saguaro]

The link in post 11 is not working. Anybody have any more links that would have hallmarks?

Saguaro

[6mm250]

I have a set of 13 fighting men of the American Revolution from Franklin Mint. They say "Fine Pewter" on the bottom & weigh about 3/4 lb each.

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s5/6mm250/1589d02d.jpg

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s5/6mm250/b3eba958.jpg

Would these be good for making boolits ?

Mike

[mold maker]

Please don't melt the revolutionary soldiers. Those are works of art that should be collected. You can find junk pewter or buy tin that won't destroy art.

[6mm250]

Those things have spent their lives in the boxes they came in. I have googled around but found little collector interest


Mike

[imashooter2]

Those things have spent their lives in the boxes they came in. I have googled around but found little collector interest


Mike

I see the valuable collectable comment often in pewter threads. But I've looked at a lot of pewter offered for sale and very, very little goes for more than the price of scrap tin.

Those figurines are lead free pewter and will be better than 80% tin. Probably better than 90% tin.

[imashooter2]

The link in post 11 is not working. Anybody have any more links that would have hallmarks?

Saguaro

It's a shame that site went away. It was the CastPics of pewter. I've never seen anything similar.

[saguaro]

It's a shame that site went away. It was the CastPics of pewter. I've never seen anything similar.

Trying to find out as much as possible so I have something to look for when the wife and I go into the resale stores. What's a good price per pound for pewter? Don't want to pay more than it's worth. Wish that link was still up.

[imashooter2]

The price of any commodity depends on how badly you need it and your prospects of finding it elsewhere. Modern pewter is pretty commonly available. That mug in my last picture was a buck. I walk away from a lot of items that folks think are "collectable."

You should be able to find plenty of scrap at $4 a pound or less.

[Cariboo]

I have a set of 13 fighting men of the American Revolution from Franklin Mint. They say "Fine Pewter" on the bottom & weigh about 3/4 lb each.
Would these be good for making boolits ?

Mike

6mm250
I maybe interested in them, I would hate to see them melted

[Sasquatch-1]

I have a set of 13 fighting men of the American Revolution from Franklin Mint. They say "Fine Pewter" on the bottom & weigh about 3/4 lb each.

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s5/6mm250/1589d02d.jpg

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s5/6mm250/b3eba958.jpg

Would these be good for making boolits ?

Mike

Before you melt that down, why don't you try and swap it for some scrap. Someone may enjoy owning them and pay to keep them from being melted. Also check your local thrift store and charitable organizations. I have picked up items that weigh between 8 to 12 ozs for 25 cents to a dollar. Flee markets are another good place.

[imashooter2]

A 5 inch covered pitcher, 12 ounces.

http://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall16.jpghttp://imashooter2.com/pewter/pitcher600.jpg

[Sasquatch-1]

A 5 inch covered pitcher, 12 ounces.



What was the price and is the other half going to allow you to melt it. Actually I think that one would go on the shelf for later consideration.

[jlchucker]

That's some pretty nice stuff in some of these pictures. I'd like some bowls and platters like that displayed in my dining room. I've got a couple, but some of these antique dealers seem to be pricing pieces like some of those shown right up there with gold, it seems. Then again, some of the cheaper stuff can be spotted right away at yard sales, and if bought right, can be good for the ol' smelting pot, right along with some wheelweights. Imashooter and Meak99, that's some nice stuff you've shown pictures of. If I had some of that, and melted it down for boolits, I know a couple of lady friends that I'd never dare let near my 45-70 again!

[Sasquatch-1]

That's some pretty nice stuff in some of these pictures. I'd like some bowls and platters like that displayed in my dining room. I've got a couple, but some of these antique dealers seem to be pricing pieces like some of those shown right up there with gold, it seems. Then again, some of the cheaper stuff can be spotted right away at yard sales, and if bought right, can be good for the ol' smelting pot, right along with some wheelweights. Imashooter and Meak99, that's some nice stuff you've shown pictures of. If I had some of that, and melted it down for boolits, I know a couple of lady friends that I'd never dare let near my 45-70 again!

Check your local Salvation Army stores and Goodwill stores. Also check out the late season flea markets where the sellers are looking to get rid of as much as possible.

I picked up a large quanity at a flea market over the summer. The guy was just tired of hauling it around.

[imashooter2]

That's some pretty nice stuff in some of these pictures.
-snip-

A lot of them are turned so that the big dent or scratch is on the other side.

[imashooter2]

What was the price and is the other half going to allow you to melt it. Actually I think that one would go on the shelf for later consideration.

A buck plus the Governor’s 6% at the Goodwill. Her Majesty gets her way in many things. This isn’t one of them.

[fryboy]

ah ye olde " to melt or not to melt " .... , nice score !! i need to be able to take a couple fotos , to be fair the hallmarks are already here , i havent found alot lately but i did find a couple of serving/carving trays ( definite melt materiel !!! ) just a lil under 4#'s for just a lil under $4 ( $.99 & $2.98 )

ummm

"A lot of them are turned so that the big dent or scratch is on the other side."

some is quite fixable lolz , i have a engraved and plated lil oblong dish engraved for a trophy dated 1937 , barely visible ( now that the plating is wore ) is where it was changed from some other engraving but umm it's no longer fixable , it is in my "melt later pile " tho :P

[imashooter2]

"A lot of them are turned so that the big dent or scratch is on the other side."

some is quite fixable lolz , i have a engraved and plated lil oblong dish engraved for a trophy dated 1937 , barely visible ( now that the plating is wore ) is where it was changed from some other engraving but umm it's no longer fixable , it is in my "melt later pile " tho :P

Sure, but then all I'd have is a piece with labor in it that still won't sell for more than the price of scrap tin. I understand some folks like the stuff as decorations. I provide them a service. I take the lowest cost items out of circulation and drive up the value of their rare collectables...

Most of the stuff I've collected is still just like the pictures. I'll ingot up a few pounds now and again as it is needed (or in big melts, just weigh the piece and toss it in). I figure if I ever have reason to sell, it's a lot easier to prove what it is if it still has the shape and hallmark.

[mac1911]

Are there any real values to these pewter items. I found my first score of pewter after years of looking at local sales.....beat dented mess of a vase and 2 very short non weighted candle sticks. They do not look worth anything but the tin ! BUT is there any stuff out there you should be looking for. Particular hall marks or such

[imashooter2]

Are there any real values to these pewter items. I found my first score of pewter after years of looking at local sales.....beat dented mess of a vase and 2 very short non weighted candle sticks. They do not look worth anything but the tin ! BUT is there any stuff out there you should be looking for. Particular hall marks or such

Go to eBay and look at the prices of what actually sells (as opposed to what's listed).

Serious antiques do exist and can be valuable. Modern pewter, like all the stuff I've pictured here, is boolit metal.

[fryboy]

"Most of the stuff I've collected is still just like the pictures"

ditto :P my melt later pile grows a bit from time to time but that's not a bad thing ;) seems when my melted stash has been getting low i find some more beyond repair and am happy to smelt it
i'm trying to recall which old gun rag had a story about shooting pure pewter , i'm thinking it was in the late 70's or early-mid 80's , it seems like a heck of a waste to me but the duc seal they were shooting into had some impressive wound channels ( even with a lil 32 acp !!! not to mention the bigger calibers ) had i a real recovery target i'd be tempted to try it ( repeatedly lolz ) !

[William Yanda]

Here in Western NY I am in the middle of weekend events. Naples Grape festival this weekend, Cohocton Fall Foliage festival next. I found a cream and sugar set, about 14 oz. for $2 and a stemmed handle less cup at 7 oz for another buck and a 1985 USPS scale 0-2 lbs by half oz. for $.50. That is enough tin for about 70 lbs of coww. Hope to do better next week. This weekend was rainy.
Bill

[imashooter2]

Scored a decent pile this week...

http://imashooter2.com/pewter/lota-760.jpg

[imashooter2]

Mostly the same old stuff, but a few new hallmarks:

http://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall18.jpghttp://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall20.jpghttp://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall19.jpghttp://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall21.jpghttp://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall22.jpghttp://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall23.jpghttp://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall24.jpghttp://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall17.jpg

[fryboy]

that is a nice pile ! congrats !

[6mm250]

Anybody know if this spoon is pewter ? I got it with some other stuff at the fleece market.

It's got a "Williamsburg Restoration" hallmark and "Max Rieg"


http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s5/6mm250/002_zps96768ae4.jpg



Mike

[jsizemore]

Anybody know if this spoon is pewter ? I got it with some other stuff at the fleece market.

It's got a "Williamsburg Restoration" hallmark and "Max Rieg"


http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s5/6mm250/002_zps96768ae4.jpg



Mike

Yes. Modern era pewter.

[castblast]

I just bought my first pewter last week. I checked out a couple of Goodwills which had nothing and a small consignment shop where I found all this stuff.

The cups and mug were $7.00 and weighed 3 lbs even.

The figurines came in a shoe box for $40.00 and weighed 13.25 lbs. The bird figurine in the back of the photo weighs 2.27 lbs and the tall woman weighs 2.17 lbs.

Some of the figurines have oxidized. Does pewter do this? Or do some of these have a high lead content? Look at the camel to the left and some of the small ones up front.

[imashooter2]

Some of the figurines have oxidized. Does pewter do this? Or do some of these have a high lead content? Look at the camel to the left and some of the small ones up front.

I've never seen pewter oxidized white like that. I would melt one of the cups to establish the proper temperature and then see if one of those oxidized figurines would melt into it before I took a chance on a large melt.

[bumpo628]

What is the typical net weight of a pewter glass-bottom mug?

[imashooter2]

What is the typical net weight of a pewter glass-bottom mug?

8 - 10 ounces.

[castblast]

Well, I melted all my pewter! The camel would not melt. I think it is mostly lead. I'll throw it in the pot next time I melt wheel weights. The cups and mug melted at 435 with no apparent slush stage and the figurines melted at 480 with a definite slush stage. Anyone have a good idea of the composition of the different alloys?

In the photo the REAL's and the fish to the right are from the cups and mug. The fish to the left are from the figurines.

[bumpo628]

8 - 10 ounces.

Thanks

[fryboy]

I just bought my first pewter last week. I checked out a couple of Goodwills which had nothing and a small consignment shop where I found all this stuff.

The cups and mug were $7.00 and weighed 3 lbs even.

The figurines came in a shoe box for $40.00 and weighed 13.25 lbs. The bird figurine in the back of the photo weighs 2.27 lbs and the tall woman weighs 2.17 lbs.

Some of the figurines have oxidized. Does pewter do this? Or do some of these have a high lead content? Look at the camel to the left and some of the small ones up front.

the ricker-bartlett figurines are hi lead content that i know of ( center right two ) there's a thread here somewhere that states the content that he used to use ( i have no clue which thread it's on and own a few of his pieces myself )

food/beverage type pewter will always erm usually be very low to zero lead content ( they found out long ago that lead wasnt healthy to use for foodstuff dishes ) worse there are several variable definitions of pewter , i have a piece by a local artist that is the brightest whitest hardest pewter i have ever had the pleasure of owning ( makes me wonder if it perhaps has a higher antimony content )

my last piece ( 3/4 # ) is a cup that doesnt state pewter but has a hallmark ( it passed the bend and nick test so far ) of a woman/angel with wings in a circle , i'm pretty sure it's german/barvarian from the stag/hunt/target motif , oh asking price ? ( and i didnt even haggle ) $1.00 , when i can get some fotos ( i have a few saved for fotos lolz ) i'll try the multi image like our amigo imashooter did

[fryboy]

the angel one wasnt/isnt stamped pewter but according to all the test i have done it is ( woot ) of note i have another one of web pewter somewhere yet it is a lil more stylized ( looks alot like the warner bros. logo in fact ) and this one here is plain text almost like they used a letter stamp set ( altho it's too nice of a job to of been done singly )

[imashooter2]

the angel one wasnt/isnt stamped pewter but according to all the test i have done it is ( woot ) of note i have another one of web pewter somewhere yet it is a lil more stylized ( looks alot like the warner bros. logo in fact ) and this one here is plain text almost like they used a letter stamp set ( altho it's too nice of a job to of been done singly )

That angel mark is Bavarian pewter. I had one just like it on a decorative plate before I started this thread and it was also listed on the defunct Pewter Tankards and Flagons site. That's the 3rd or 4th Web hallmark style we have listed so far. Evidently they changed like the weather.

Thanks for the additions!

[fryboy]

the mulholland is the one that gets me ... it's on a old old vase underneath the 1966 stamp is either 1699 or 699 , it didnt show up in the foto's like i had hoped , not sure if it was the year it was replated or the model number , one thing i'm sure of is that it was made looooong before 1966 and that it has been replated , everyone whom seen it thinks it was a funeral urn lolz ( yeah i havent melted it down yet )
the angel i thought was somewhere close to germany/austria ( yeah barvaria is close ) it has a hunting scene and target shooting motif on it that's clearly european from that area ,glad to share when i can !!

[imashooter2]

the angel i thought was somewhere close to germany/austria ( yeah barvaria is close ) it has a hunting scene and target shooting motif on it that's clearly european from that area ,glad to share when i can !!

Found the Pewter Tankards and Flagons site on The Wayback Machine. Turns out I was mistaken. Your angel mark is slightly different than the one I had and your piece is made by Eduard Scholl Zinn of Gnadental, Germany. Mine was Swiss. Bavaria never entered into the equation. :oops:

They also show a Mulholland hallmark exactly like yours and state: Mulholland Bros. Pewter, Aurora, Illinois, 1919 - 1934.

[imashooter2]

Here is a link to Pewter Tankards and Flagons on The Wayback Machine. Not sure how long this will stay active, but for now it looks like the whole site is there intact.

http://web.archive.org/web/20110626145553/http://pewtertankardsflagons.com/

[RU shooter]

I actually started looking for pewter today for the first time after reading a few posts about it and while the Mrs. was looking for items at the second hand stores I looked for pewter . I found about 5-7 lbs of items that had halmarks and pewter written on them that I know is genuine I also saw alot of items that kinda sorta looked like pewter and had halmarks but nothing saying pewter on it the one halmark I saw alot of on the iffy stuff was the letters in capital RWP in a circle the W was bigger than the rest some also had Columbia Pa. written on them some didnt though . Were these also Pewter or cast alum. or ?

Tim

[bumpo628]

I saw alot of on the iffy stuff was the letters in capital RWP in a circle the W was bigger than the rest some also had Columbia Pa. written on them some didnt though . Were these also Pewter or cast alum. or ?

Tim

The RWP stuff is not pewter. Wilton Armetale is an aluminum alloy.
http://reviews.ebay.com/RWP-Wilton-ARMETALE-is-not-Pewter?ugid=10000000004569616

[RU shooter]

The RWP stuff is not pewter. Wilton Armetale is an aluminum alloy.
http://reviews.ebay.com/RWP-Wilton-ARMETALE-is-not-Pewter?ugid=10000000004569616 Thank you Sir, I just informed the Mrs. to dont buy anything with that one on it .

[Catsmith]

The bride and me have been stopping in consignment shops and thrist stores for years. Wish I would have read this post years ago.

First time I read this thread was about two weeks ago and have reread it a few times since. We have been collecting up stuff for about a week now and have about 10lbs of definate and about the same in probably/maybe.

If I set the pot on about 450-480 and take it one at a time, will this tell me if I have pewter on the maybe stuff? will the maybe stuff not melt at that temp? Not sure how to do this even after all this reading.

One more question: I am finding little candle holders and such that are stamped pewter but are maid in china-etc. passes the nick test but have not seen yall discussing oriental modern pewter.

[imashooter2]

Melt something known, hold it at just melted and see if small chunks cut off the unknown will melt into it. That isn't a guarantee, but it is a pretty strong indicator.

I've had stuff with oriental marks on it before. It melted at higher temperature and seemed to me it had a higher lead content. I find enough hallmarked, modern and probably lead free pieces at attractive enough prices that I just don't mess with anything else these days.

[fryboy]

unknown content usually gets smelted singly by me , by that time i have a pretty good idea if it's the good stuff or not and whether to keep it separate , imashooter brings up a couple very good points , the smelting of a known gives you some experience as well , and i've found that food service items tend to be of the better quality eg; no lead . trinkets and what nots that one doesnt use for food/drink often has more lead ( less tin ) but ...so many alloys can be called pewter it isnt funny , the hallmarked stuff is indeed the best way to go until you gain the knowledge

[Down South]

I picked these up a few weeks ago. They have Banka-Tin stamped on them. They pass the bend test easy but the wife won't let me melt them anyway, says it's to pretty. They now sit in the china cabinet.

4894148942

[imashooter2]

If you had bought them bent and dented, they would be in your casting pot instead of the china cabinet. [smilie=1:

[evan price]

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/2-Vintage-Royal-Holland-Pewter-DAALDEROP-TIEL-K-MD-Water-Creamer-Pitchers-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMzk4/$T2eC16ZHJHEE9ny2sYejBQUbZkkuyw~~60_35.JPGhttp://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/$(KGrHqN,!lME+HZbdy!nBP-yN)4,nw~~60_1.jpg
Got these items (pic is identical) from the thrift shop, dented up, for $3 out the door.

Royal Holland Pewter Daalderop
http://www.trademarkia.com/logo-images/nv-koninklijke-metaalwarenfabrieken-voorheen-jn-daalderop--zonen/kmd-royal-holland-pewter-72189719.jpg

This hallmark, but added "DAALDEROP" to it.

[Cobalt60]

Here is a link to Pewter Tankards and Flagons on The Wayback Machine. Not sure how long this will stay active, but for now it looks like the whole site is there intact.

http://web.archive.org/web/20110626145553/http://pewtertankardsflagons.com/

I don't know if anyone would be interested but I put the pewter marks info, pics and all, from this link into a MS Word (Office 2003) .doc format. 146 page, 7.5mb in size. It is also set up in Document Map format which, when View>Document Map is chosen, gives a "Table of Contents" frame that links to specific main categories. I didn't get the "Shapes", "Thumbpieces", or "Links" pages.

Don't know the best way to distribute though if there is interest.

[bumpo628]

I don't know if anyone would be interested but I put the pewter marks info, pics and all, from this link into a MS Word (Office 2003) .doc format. 146 page, 7.5mb in size. It is also set up in Document Map format which, when View>Document Map is chosen, gives a "Table of Contents" frame that links to specific main categories. I didn't get the "Shapes", "Thumbpieces", or "Links" pages.

Don't know the best way to distribute though if there is interest.

You can just attach it to one of your posts.
If they won't let you attach the .doc format, then just put it in .zip format. I know you can attach zip files.

[imashooter2]

I've seen Cobalt60's document. It's a beauty and a lot of work went into creating it.

That said, I don't know the impact to this site of posting / hosting copyrighted content from another (albeit defunct) website. I'd contact management before I just made an attachment...

[Cobalt60]

I've seen Cobalt60's document. It's a beauty and a lot of work went into creating it.

Thanks! More time spent than anything.


That said, I don't know the impact to this site of posting / hosting copyrighted content from another (albeit defunct) website. I'd contact management before I just made an attachment...

You are correct. Dealing a wee bit of a gray area, in my opinion also, so I'd rather keep CB at as little risk as possible. PM if interested and we'll see how that works.

[imashooter2]

Another pitcher. This one is 8 inches tall and has very heavy walls. Weighs a full pound and is 97% tin.

http://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall25.jpg http://imashooter2.com/pewter/pitcher2-600.jpg

[imashooter2]

Another weighted candlestick. 9.0 ounces gross, only 4.4 ounces net.

http://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall26.jpghttp://imashooter2.com/pewter/candle2-350.jpghttp://imashooter2.com/pewter/candle2a-350.jpg

[imashooter2]

A 7.5 X 4.5 inch dish, ~7 ounces...

http://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall27.jpghttp://imashooter2.com/pewter/dish-600.jpg

[imashooter2]

A fair find today. 2 candlesticks and a neat box with a hinged lid. The box is 4.5 inches diameter for scale. The smaller candlestick is 6.6 ounces, the larger candlestick 8.9 ounces and the box is also 8.9 ounces.

http://imashooter2.com/pewter/grp1-600.jpg

A couple new variations on hallmarks. The box is by Woodbury Pewterers, but has a logo from the Henry Ford Museum instead of their usual mark. The box also had a sticker on it. The larger candlestick is another piece of Web pewter with yet another variation on their mark.

http://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall28.jpg http://imashooter2.com/pewter/sticker1.jpg http://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall29.jpg

[Rooster]

I picked up a mug at the Hospice House with the Henry Ford Museum stamp today too. Nice photograph as mine is hard to read even with a magnifier.

[imashooter2]

A 5 inch covered tankard with solid bottom (11.4 ounces) and a classic 2.5 inch Jefferson cup (5.4 ounces). The tankard's hall mark was so faint that I couldn't get a picture, but it had the traditional "fine English pewter" and "made by craftsmen in Sheffield England" on it.

http://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall30.jpg http://imashooter2.com/pewter/jeffcup-600.jpg

[SlippShodd]

Here's one I hadn't seen before. Netted 8 ounces.

mike6012460125

[imashooter2]

A tea set... The pot is about 4.5 inches tall and 5 inches diameter, 1 pound 6.7 ounces. The pot lid is 4.8 ounces. The cream and sugar are 2 inches tall, 3.5 inches diameter and weigh 6.2 ounces. Their lids are 1.9 ounces each. I love finding big plates / trays. They are always heavy. This one is 11.5 inches diameter and 1 pound 12.1 ounces. The whole set is just shy of 4.5 pounds total.

http://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall31.jpghttp://imashooter2.com/pewter/teaset-600.jpg

[Sasquatch-1]

A tea set... The pot is about 4.5 inches tall and 5 inches diameter, 1 pound 6.7 ounces. The pot lid is 4.8 ounces. The cream and sugar are 2 inches tall, 3.5 inches diameter and weigh 6.2 ounces. Their lids are 1.9 ounces each. I love finding big plates / trays. They are always heavy. This one is 11.5 inches diameter and 1 pound 12.1 ounces. The whole set is just shy of 4.5 pounds total.


If my wife saw that one it would end up in the china cabinet on display.

[imashooter2]

If my wife saw that one it would end up in the china cabinet on display.

Then make sure the wife doesn't get to see it until it is a dented up pile of scrap. :)

[Rooster]

I just about woke up the sleeping she bear with that remark Ima...too funny.

[boltons75]

Just had to pass on this collection of pewter at my local salvation army. They were priced 12.50, 10,8 and 2.50 for the small ones.....62166

[imashooter2]

Just had to pass on this collection of pewter at my local salvation army. They were priced 12.50, 10,8 and 2.50 for the small ones.....

Yep. Nice heavy pieces, but priced too high. I see pewter almost every trip I make to a thrift store. I've walked away from a lot of stuff that doesn't make my price point.

[303Guy]

http://home.comcast.net/~imashooter2/pictures/teaset-600.jpg
I wouldn't have the heart to destroy something like that. I would put it on internet auction and use the money to buy a cheaper pewter item. My lady has a few very heavy pewter objects that I want her to sell (or give to me to melt down - except they look too good to destroy!)

Those Asian pewter items are high lead - don't eat or drink from them.

Doh!
62245

[imashooter2]

It's already melted. I guess I just have no soul. :)

Seriously though, as much as folks want it to, modern pewter doesn't sell for much on eBay. If it does sell, the pewter and protective material is heavy and expensive to ship. Often more than the pewter sells for. Of course eBay now adds that shipping into their final value and charge you fees on what you're going to pay the Post Office. Frankly, after you pay the PO and take all your fees out of the selling price, you're better off putting it in the pot.

[303Guy]

Just found this in Wikipedia;

A typical European casting alloy contains 94% tin, 1% copper, and 5% antimony. A European pewter sheet would contain 92% tin, 2% copper, and 6% antimony. Asian pewter, produced mostly in Malaysia, Singapore, and Thailand, contains a higher percentage of tin, usually 97.5% tin, 1% copper, and 1.5% antimony. This makes the alloy slightly softer.

I was thinking of this pewter;
The last type of pewter, known as "lay" or "ley" metal, was used for items that were not in contact with food or drink. It consisted of tin with 15% lead.


Frankly, after you pay the PO and take all your fees out of the selling price, you're better off putting it in the pot.Makes sense. But sometimes pewter-ware is collectable. And double check that's it's not ancient Roman pewter-ware!

Watching TV this morning there was the lady saying that she was about to sell some trinket or other for a few dollars when she saw something on TV about it. She had it valued at $10,000! That one wasn't even Roman.

[imashooter2]

Just found this in Wikipedia;


I was thinking of this pewter;

Buying antiques, you can get leaded pewter. The modern food service stuff is all lead free.

[imashooter2]

Another teapot. About 5 inches diameter x 7.5 inches tall, 1 3/4 pounds.


http://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall32.jpghttp://imashooter2.com/pewter/tea2-600.jpg

[trapper9260]

Can someone let me know what is the right price that is to buy any of this stuff for what we all want to use it for? or close to what should be close to the price? I have seen some in some places and think it was high for a picture frame for $5 and some others that I forgot now . Thank you

[imashooter2]

I like to be under $4 a pound for what I scrounge and less is better. You have to maintain discipline and walk away from a lot of stuff to get that price.

[Ohio Rusty]

I don't know how you folks are so lucky to find such nice pewter stuff. I'm a re-enactor and I'd give anything to find cups, noggins and especially plates to eat off of in my encampment ...... I found a couple of candle sticks and I use them on my tent table !! The pewter teapot in the above picture would have been a fabulous find .....
Gunpowder tea from a pewter teapot ..... how revolutionary !!
Ohio Rusty ><>

[trapper9260]

I like to be under $4 a pound for what I scrounge and less is better. You have to maintain discipline and walk away from a lot of stuff to get that price.

Thank you ,I know alot of it that I seen was more then that and did not touch it.Also I was not sure what was the price should be also.When i was not sure on what the price was I just past it up.I do that on alot of things. This is something new for looking to buy this like this .Thank you again.

[Von Dingo]

As for the cost factor, it tends to wash out for me at about $4-5.00 per lb. Some 6 oz pieces I pay $3-4 for, and some 1.5 lb pieces I pay $3.00 for. Just as soon have seven lbs at $5.00 a lb, than 4.5 lbs at $4.00 a lb.

At the same time, one of the local stores got a new manager, who wants them to be a "collectables mall", and is pricing some stuff at those levels. They went from a small shelf for the cool collectables, to three shelving units, and now four tables. Chock full of Norman Rockwell plates, and other things nobody wants. The pewter ended up there, and someone bought it at very overinflated prices, dents and all:D, after a couple of months of gathering dust for a $10 four oz cup.

[mold maker]

Either I live in a "pewter starved community" , or somebody is beating me to it. I've looked for several years and only found a few pieces. I scored 2 weighted candlesticks because they had been dropped and badly bent. I spotted 2 marked lightweight drinking cups that they were asking $6. ea.
The only real find was a "Dollar" type store that had 47 marked religious pieces @ 2/$1. The total weight was 17# and I got them at a discount for taking them all. I paid $20. + tax. Owner said he had dusted them for as long as the store had been open.
Nobody around here seems to have seen any pewter at Grandma's house growing up.

[BNE]

Thank you for this post. I read it a weak too late. I picked up a Wilton bread tray for $2.50 last week and tried to melt it down. Turns out it contained ZINC! (I have access to an XrF machine at work that can tell me the composition.)
Another clue I missed was that it was VERY hard to break up to put into the pot.

[30CalTy]

Picked up 16lbs of this on Craigslist today ($40). Mostly Nantucket Pewter.
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm160/30CalTy/DSC_2619_zps6d8b29ad.jpg

[imashooter2]

Picked up 16lbs of this on Craigslist today ($40). Mostly Nantucket Pewter.
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm160/30CalTy/DSC_2619_zps6d8b29ad.jpg

You have to get some pictures and post them up. :)

[SlippShodd]

Nice surprise at Goodwill this morning. Two of these cost me a buck. Netted 20.5 ounces ingoted.

67984

The other one was in the pot when I took the pic... wasn't gonna have photo evidence of a fail. :)

mike

[captaint]

WOW - Didn't we make this a sticky yet ???????? Mike

[CountryBoy19]

Anybody heard of "Eastern Pewter"? Found a small piece with those markings in plain block letter and wasn't sure. I passed on it based on price but I'm just starting the pewter searching so wasn't too sure if it was real or not.

[imashooter2]

Anybody heard of "Eastern Pewter"? Found a small piece with those markings in plain block letter and wasn't sure. I passed on it based on price but I'm just starting the pewter searching so wasn't too sure if it was real or not.

No, I've never seen that one, but there are a few examples of plain lettering on this thread. If it had a pewter form (thin sections, bendable, no rivets or cast marks) I would have bought if the price was right.

[imashooter2]

A decent score today:
A large pitcher, 10 inches tall, 5 inches diameter on the fat part, 1 pound 6.4 ounces.
http://imashooter2.com/pewter/pitcher3s.jpg

An 11.5 x 7 inch tray, 12.5 ounces.
http://imashooter2.com/pewter/dish2s.jpg

And what looks like 10 inch shallow footed bowl that someone smashed flat into some sort of plate, just over a pound.
http://imashooter2.com/pewter/dish3s.jpg

Hallmarks from the above, in order, pitcher, tray and flattened bowl.
http://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall41.jpghttp://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall35.jpghttp://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall34.jpg

[imashooter2]

It's been a good couple weeks...
http://imashooter2.com/pewter/biglots.jpg

No new hallmarks, but thought I'd post some weights to help my fellow scroungers. The coffee pots with the rattan handles are about 1.5 pounds. The teapots are a little over a pound. The fat coffee pot is 1.75 pounds. The 11 inch tray is 1.5 pounds. The small creamer and sugar on the tray are just 3 ounces each. The larger creamers and sugars, the Revere bowls and the square candy dish are all between 6 and 8 ounces except the covered creamer on the right. That one is Woodbury, which over time I've found is heavier construction than most pieces. It goes 10 ounces. The large porringer is just over a pound and the small one 10 ounces.

Some closer pictures:
http://imashooter2.com/pewter/biglot1s.jpghttp://imashooter2.com/pewter/biglot2s.jpghttp://imashooter2.com/pewter/biglot3s.jpghttp://imashooter2.com/pewter/biglot4s.jpg

[SlippShodd]

It's been a good couple weeks...

You're so... hateable. :)
I haven't found squat in the last couple weeks. Lots of yard and estate sales and I haven't spent a dime.

mike

[imashooter2]

Just luck of the draw... I live right around the corner from an affluent college town with an aging population. All that holloware that an upscale 50's homemaker had to have holds no interest to their kids when it's time to settle their estates.

[CountryBoy19]

Found my first score today since I started looking a couple months ago. Got a 6 5/8 oz candle-stick holder mark "Woodbury Pewterers" for $.25 and a small 7 3/4 oz TIN pitcher for $.50. I was a bit skeptical that the pitcher was tin but the base & handle are both soldered on, there is a small roll-mark on the bottom that says "H K, TIN". It is very flexible/bendable even though it's a bit thicker. I'm going to say it is certainly close to pure tin.

[imashooter2]

Another week, a few more pieces and a couple of new hallmarks...

A footed 6 inch bowl, 10.5 ounces:
http://imashooter2.com/pewter/bowl2s.jpg

A pair of 5 inch bowls, left hand is 7.5 ounces, the footed bowl on the right is 8.2 ounces:
http://imashooter2.com/pewter/bowl3s.jpg

A shallow 9 inch bowl at 14.5 ounces:
http://imashooter2.com/pewter/bowl4s.jpg

And finally a short candlestick (7.8 ounces) and a solid bottom mug (13.2 ounces):
http://imashooter2.com/pewter/can-mugs.jpg

http://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall36.jpghttp://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall37.jpghttp://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall38.jpg

[Smokepole50]

Before you melt that pewter item in GOOD condition you may want to look at this site.........
http://www.pewtersellers.com/

I think some pewter is very valuable.

[imashooter2]

LOL! I'm starting to get that post once a page. Some antique pewter is very valuable. Modern stuff is not. Everything you see here is modern pewter that I got cheap because there isn't any real market for it.

[Smokepole50]

I would agree, imashooter2, just putting it out there so people will be watchful for unique pieces or pieces that look very old. Of course it goes without saying that if it has a 1800's date on it you may want to look up the value. I think the value of pewter in PA is going to rise over time.........cause it keeps disappearing.

[imashooter2]

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I think the value of pewter in PA is going to rise over time.........cause it keeps disappearing.

I think of it as a service, increasing the worth of people's valuable collectables. But I've always been a giver. :)

[longusmc]

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I found this pewter at the local swap meet today and picked it up, I havn't weighed it yet. I purchased it with 1/4 spool of lead free solder which from what I found is at least 95% tin along with 2lb 2oz of lead fishing weights.

[imashooter2]

Thanks for the addition! Are the brass pieces (assume it's brass anyway) inserts or plated onto the pewter?

[longusmc]

The rings around the vase are plated but the emblem was attached with some sort of adhesive. It is soft and malleable appears to be brass.

[peterthevet]

Question for the pewter guru (imashooter2)....thanks in advance!!!
Can I assume that if the word pewter is stamped on the bottom that it is actually pewter? Or can fakes be found with this stamp? Was at scrap metal yard today and may have found 30-40 lbs at a very good price!!!! Cheers Peter

[imashooter2]

Anything can be faked, but I've never seen an item stamped simply "pewter" or "genuine pewter" which was not. Beware of pieces stamped "Mexican Pewter," "Pewterx," "Pewter Finish" "and the like. Always look for the genuine pewter form traits... thin bodies, soldered attachments, no casting lines.

[imashooter2]

Another classic 5 inch glass bottom tankard. 13.9 ounces as it sits, should net 10.5 - 11. A new hallmark on this one, but it does have the standard "English Pewter" and "Made in England" that I see on most of the glass bottom specimens. Pardon the mouse pad reflection. :oops:

http://imashooter2.com/pewter/mugb600.jpghttp://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall39.jpg

[zidave]

http://home.comcast.net/~imashooter2/pictures/mugb600.jpg

I don't know if I could bring myself to melt that down. It's pretty.

[Full Mold Jack]

I think most of the scrap tin in this thread is pretty darn ugly. I don't understand why anyone would want to drink their beer from a tin tankard when it already comes perfectly prepackaged in an icy cold can. Empty cans also make a nice target for much prettier boolits, it's win win :grin:

Anyhow, on topic and before it gets sent down range, here's some pics for posterity from my recent scrounging.

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The first two are Aussie manufacturers, the larger one Huntly by Silcraft in Melbourne, the middle one says Kirra and I'm guessing by the name and boomerang in the hallmark it's Aussie too, the last smaller one is Selangor-Pewter Malaysia-Singapore.

[imashooter2]

zidave, maybe I have no soul, but other people's 40 year old bowling trophies go in the pot. :)

Full Mold Jack, thanks for the additions!

[zidave]

zidave, maybe I have no soul, but other people's 40 year old bowling trophies go in the pot. :)

Full Mold Jack, thanks for the additions!

Haha. That I can see, no sentimental value to you but those cups are sweet.

[imashooter2]

Another tea set. The pot is 10.5 inches tall and weighs 1 pound 10 ounces. The creamer and sugar are 5 inches tall, the creamer 7.5 ounces and the sugar 10 ounces. Interesting hallmark on this set... A faint original maker's mark that I can't make out heavily over stamped by the Gimbel Brothers.

http://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall40.jpg
http://imashooter2.com/pewter/tea3s.jpg

[imashooter2]

Another Old Colony pitcher, exactly the same as the one in post 142, except this one is a little heavier at 1 pound 8.6 ounces...

http://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall41.jpg http://imashooter2.com/pewter/pitcher4s.jpg

[CountryBoy19]

I've picked up a few more pieces lately as well... I've been doing pretty good at one particular Goodwill store... had a new piece every time I go in there. Although I've passed on a number of pieces as well because of price.

Just yesterday I picked up a 7.75 oz ash-tray Proofmarked "TIN" & "Made in Denmark". Had to spring a whole $1 for it.

Picked up a 6 oz belt-buckle for $.50 and a small "Jefferson Cup" marked "Pewter" "Made in Italy" for $.25...

So far, ALL of my pewter scores have come from Goodwill stores... 90% of them from the exact same store that seems to get all sorts of good stuff in...

[prsman23]

Well done sir. My best finds have been there too.

[imashooter2]

Found some stuff with new hallmarks...
A 9 inch decorative plate with the classic angel hallmark, 1 pound 8.9 ounces.

http://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall42.jpg http://imashooter2.com/pewter/9plate.jpg

A pair of Jefferson cups, 5.9 ounces each.

http://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall43.jpg http://imashooter2.com/pewter/jeff2.jpg

Another coffee and tea set. 9 inch coffee pot, 1 pound 7.5 ounces. 7 inch tea pot, 1 pound even. 5 inch sugar, 9.3 ounces.

http://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall44.jpg http://imashooter2.com/pewter/risco.jpg

A small salt cellar. Only 2.6 ounces, but a neat Italian hallmark.

http://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall45.jpg http://imashooter2.com/pewter/salt.jpg

And yet another coffee set. This one was a good score... The 10.5 inch pot is 2 pounds 7.2 ounces. A 4 inch creamer at 10.3 ounces. A 5 inch covered sugar at 12.3 ounces. All on a 13.5 inch tray at 2 pounds 8.8 ounces.

http://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall46.jpg http://imashooter2.com/pewter/conhse.jpg

[RikyRacr]

Found this at our local Goodwill. $1.95 plus tax.

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[RikyRacr]

Found this one also. $1.95 plus tax. I busted out the glass and removed the little gasket so the weight is all pewter.

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[imashooter2]

Found this at our local Goodwill. $1.95 plus tax.

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A fine example of "not pewter." That's Wilton Armetale, a proprietary aluminum based alloy that is of no use to boolit casters. :( Tell tales (besides the RWP hallmark) are the thick body and cast in handle.


Found this one also. $1.95 plus tax. I busted out the glass and removed the little gasket so the weight is all pewter.

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That's a good one with the classic markings. Thanks for the additions!

[RikyRacr]

A fine example of "not pewter." That's Wilton Armetale, a proprietary aluminum based alloy that is of no use to boolit casters. :( Tell tales (besides the RWP hallmark) are the thick body and cast in handle.


Thank you for the info. I would have tried to use this. I am new to casting and just started watching for pewter in the last couple of weeks.

[imashooter2]

Thank you for the info. I would have tried to use this. I am new to casting and just started watching for pewter in the last couple of weeks.

It wouldn't have hurt you, it won't melt at anything close to casting temperatures. Take heart, you aren't the first (nor will you be the last) to buy a piece of Armetale by mistake. :)

[jsizemore]

Found this one also. $1.95 plus tax. I busted out the glass and removed the little gasket so the weight is all pewter.

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You'll notice on this piece that there's a rolled edge above the ring that has 'ENGLISH PEWTER SHEFFIELD'. If you peel that rolled edge outward you can remove that ring, which is sometimes aluminum, and the glass bottom along with the caulk. Old mugs used caulk similar to stained glass caulk but the new ones use a silicon based seal. I try to remove as much of caulk before going into the pot cuz it does very little to flux/reduce the melt. After the ring is removed, the glass comes out with a little steady pressure from the inside on one edge. That mugs enough pewter to add to 2-10 pots of alloy. I peel that rolled edge with a pair of pliers.

[SteveUSP]

I was shopping for pewter for the first time yesterday. I found a lot of things that looked promising, but was afraid to commit. A thin seashell shaped piece with three candle holders (soldered on), and thick legs (also soldered on) but no hallmark. Do ALL pewter pieces have a hallmark? I saw one piece that had a funny looking 'K R', but I didn't see that mark in this thread. There were two 'teacup' sized bowls, obviously turned, by the machine marks. Is any of this pewter? Some stuff said Sheffield Silver, and seemed really cheap for silver. Is there any value to scrap silver?

[RikyRacr]

You'll notice on this piece that there's a rolled edge above the ring that has 'ENGLISH PEWTER SHEFFIELD'. If you peel that rolled edge outward you can remove that ring, which is sometimes aluminum, and the glass bottom along with the caulk. Old mugs used caulk similar to stained glass caulk but the new ones use a silicon based seal. I try to remove as much of caulk before going into the pot cuz it does very little to flux/reduce the melt. After the ring is removed, the glass comes out with a little steady pressure from the inside on one edge. That mugs enough pewter to add to 2-10 pots of alloy. I peel that rolled edge with a pair of pliers.

Thanks!

I love this forum. You guys ROCK!

[jsizemore]

I was shopping for pewter for the first time yesterday. I found a lot of things that looked promising, but was afraid to commit. A thin seashell shaped piece with three candle holders (soldered on), and thick legs (also soldered on) but no hallmark. Do ALL pewter pieces have a hallmark? I saw one piece that had a funny looking 'K R', but I didn't see that mark in this thread. There were two 'teacup' sized bowls, obviously turned, by the machine marks. Is any of this pewter? Some stuff said Sheffield Silver, and seemed really cheap for silver. Is there any value to scrap silver?

Not all pieces are marked especially the amateur stuff. I'd stick to the hallmarked stuff till you've handled the real deal for a bit.

[Iron Mike Golf]

I was shopping for pewter for the first time yesterday. I found a lot of things that looked promising, but was afraid to commit. A thin seashell shaped piece with three candle holders (soldered on), and thick legs (also soldered on) but no hallmark. Do ALL pewter pieces have a hallmark? I saw one piece that had a funny looking 'K R', but I didn't see that mark in this thread. There were two 'teacup' sized bowls, obviously turned, by the machine marks. Is any of this pewter? Some stuff said Sheffield Silver, and seemed really cheap for silver. Is there any value to scrap silver?

One way to look at it is that you are learning. If the piece you are in doubt over is only a few bucks, consider it tuition and buy it. Then study it, compared to a hallmarked piece of similar condition and finish. Melt and cast the pieces separately. Use a boolit mold and compare weights and such (like melting points).

Over time, you will get a good feel for unmarked pieces. You still want to quarantine unmarked stuff and check it by melting it. Look for it to melt under 450 deg.

[imashooter2]

Another couple of weeks of good scrounging. Found some weight, but mostly the same old marks. A few new ones though...

An 8 inch diameter bowl, just over a pound. The hallmark is something I'm seeing more of these days, acid etched rather than stamped.

http://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall47.jpg http://imashooter2.com/pewter/bowl5.jpg

Another 5 inch tankard. This one has a solid bottom and goes 11.3 ounces.

http://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall48.jpg http://imashooter2.com/pewter/mug1.jpg

And yet another tea set. 10 inch tray at 15.3 ounces, 3.5 inch sugar and creamer at 9.7 and 8 ounces respectively. And the 9 inch tall, 4 inch diameter pot at 1 pound 14.3 ounces.

http://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall49.jpg http://imashooter2.com/pewter/tea4.jpg

[Full Mold Jack]

My latest findings for the melting pot from a deceased estate.

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The candle holder by Metl-craft Australia doesn't appear to be weighted at 11 ounces and has someones drivers license number engraved in it for theft prevention. The two small Selangor Malaysia cups are quite thick and weigh in at 7 ounces each.

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Mug by Strachan is 9 ounces, not sure where this one is from?

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A small pitcher by K.M.D Tiel Holland at 7 ounces.

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Goblet, Huntly by Silcraft Melbourne Australia is 5.2 ounces.

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Total 39.2 ounces, I paid $20

[imashooter2]

Nice! Thanks for the additions!

[Full Mold Jack]

Nice! Thanks for the additions!

You're welcome :)

This is a great thread and I'll continue to keep an eye out for some more additions.

[ratitude]

Has anyone seen any pewter similar to this? A sticker on the bottom says "Made in India". Is it even pewter?

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[imashooter2]

Has anyone seen any pewter similar to this? A sticker on the bottom says "Made in India". Is it even pewter?


Probably not. Most of the stuff I see from India is pot metal.

[SniderBoomer]

I'll bet you a beer that is Pewter. Telling from photographs without seeing stamped-marks is hard, but the giveaway for me is the Pewter hinge on the lid, it sure does look like the Indian Pewters I have sent to the melting pot (RIP). The patina looks Pewter. Dig the Bakelite handle too.

Man, make tea, that looks too good to melt... I have an increasing collection of Pewter I bought to melt, and sometimes, this old handmade stuff really gets under my skin and I just can't melt it. I see a retirement business ahead as my local Petwer museum..

[imashooter2]

In no way trying to offend, but I'd take the bet. :)

[SniderBoomer]

Lol, a bet it is, hey Ratitude - any other marks on the bottom?

[ratitude]

It's not in my possession, yet...so all I have are the pictures. The spout looks soldered to the body but the sharp corners are what threw me off. It is listed on my local craigslist, I'm going to try to go look at it in the next couple days.

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[SniderBoomer]

Well, some of the fairly unused Pewter I come by has sharp ages... keep me updated, a beer is at stake

hey check on the sharp detail on this plate, I can't bring myself to melt this...
http://i43.tinypic.com/e8re6d.jpg

[SniderBoomer]

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[imashooter2]

A 7 inch diameter candy dish. 11 ounces even.

http://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall50.jpg
http://imashooter2.com/pewter/dish1.jpg

[ratitude]

Well, some of the fairly unused Pewter I come by has sharp ages... keep me updated, a beer is at stake

hey check on the sharp detail on this plate, I can't bring myself to melt this...


LOL, okay will do. I'll let you know tomorrow night. Can't let something important like that slip by...

[ratitude]

Well, imashooter2 is partially right. It is not pewter and its not zamac pot metal. They look like silver plating over what is probably a copper nickel alloy. There were no marks of any kind stamped anywhere. They looked good in pictures but it became fairly obvious once I examined them in person.

[imashooter2]

Lol, a bet it is, hey Ratitude - any other marks on the bottom?

Well for ratitudes sake I was hoping to be wrong, but alas, twas not to be. Next time you're going to be in the Philly area, drop me a line. :drinks:

[digger44]

A few pieces I picked up this week.
$30 and net was 7 lb 12 ounces.

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[imashooter2]

Nice macro pics of the hallmarks. Thanks for the additions!

[Sasquatch-1]

[QUOTE=digger44;2349544]A few pieces I picked up this week.
$30 and net was 7 lb 12 ounces.

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Better hope the bleeding hearts aren't watching this thread. They will want to know why it's not "Genuine Black Pewter".

[imashooter2]

A 7.5 inch pitcher, 1 pound 6.3 ounces.

http://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall51.jpg http://imashooter2.com/pewter/pitcher5.jpg

[RikyRacr]

My wife, bless her heart, got this at a yard sale for me. She knows I am on the lookout for pewter. This is pretty light and feels like aluminum, or something similar, to me. Weight is 8 oz including the glass bottom. I think I know what the consensus will be but thought I would check.

Tell me the news...........

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/08/18/e5ydety9.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/08/18/ytaheset.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/08/18/yvy7e6e4.jpg

Thank you!

[timbuck]

Rivets in the handle are not usually pewter. They would solder them, being pewter.

[imashooter2]

Rivets in the handle are not usually pewter. They would solder them, being pewter.

Concur. Not the real deal. Sorry...

[Sasquatch-1]

My wife, bless her heart, got this at a yard sale for me. She knows I am on the lookout for pewter. This is pretty light and feels like aluminum, or something similar, to me. Weight is 8 oz including the glass bottom. I think I know what the consensus will be but thought I would check.

Tell me the news...........

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/08/18/e5ydety9.jpg



It's a nice looking stein whether or not it's pewter. Put it on the desk and fill it with pencil or pens or M & M's. :lol:

[GlocksareGood]

Ran across this today. Very thick. Have not seen pewter this thick. Almost too stiff to bend but i looked it up and appears to be pewter. Weighed in at 1lb 4oz.
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[imashooter2]

Kirk Stieff is quality stuff. Nice find and thanks for the addition.

[ravyynr1]

Ok question for you guys. What do you use for a tin ingot mould? Something that will throw small ingots from 2 to 4 ounces?

[imashooter2]

I use a Potter mold, but they are hen's teeth. Lots of things will do the job... Sinker molds, mini cornbread molds, poured thin in muffin cups, one guy even uses the bottoms of beverage cans.

[RikyRacr]

I use my regular lead ingot mold. Just pour a quarter inch or so in the bottom. Bingo.

[Old Ranger]

I use my Lee ingot mold. Small sections hold 4 oz Pewter. Large ones 8 oz. According to my mental math about the right wts to add to 10 and 20 lbs of WW to give about 2.5% tin alloy. Don't fill them quite full if you want a little lighter ingot.

[Full Mold Jack]

My latest findings are a tea service on fleabay.

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This Asian stuff is really thick, I like it. The pot weighs 1lb 11oz total weight is 2lb 13oz for $15 delivered.
My wife has spotted it so I'm gonna have to accidentally drop something on it. ;)

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Then browsing one of the local charity stores I spotted this Oriental Malaysia hallmarked goblet.
Looks like a centennial commemorative piece for the PGA. It's nice and heavy too and I couldn't walk past 8oz of tin for $4.50

I thought of listing it on ebay but then I'd feel like I'm screwing over the charity store so through the pot and down the barrel it goes :)

[imashooter2]

That is heavy for a 3 piece set! Congrats on the finds and thanks for the additions!

[g5m]

Some of those photos look like real artwork. I'd have a hard time melting some of those down.

[imashooter2]

Some of those photos look like real artwork. I'd have a hard time melting some of those down.

Fortunately, I have no soul. :)

[jsizemore]

They do make a great puddle.

[g5m]

:cbpour:

[CountryBoy19]

Some of those photos look like real artwork. I'd have a hard time melting some of those down.

I buy anything I find at a good price, but of course the nastiest stuff gets melted first. I keep the nicer pieces until I get desperate...

[Old Ranger]

Yuup- I keep the nicer stuff as well, Wife uses them for flowers, pencils and pens etc. I have about 25 lbs of ingots in my stash now so hanging on to the odd "pretty" piece is not an issue.

[RikyRacr]

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My wife spotted this set at our local Goodwill. Total weight is 13.1 ounces. It was marked $5.99. Minus my 10% senior discount. SCORE!

[imashooter2]

10%????? Those picaroons! I get 20% from the Goodwill stores here in SE PA. :)

Thanks for the additions!

[RikyRacr]

10%????? Those picaroons! I get 20% from the Goodwill stores here in SE PA. :)

Thanks for the additions!

20%!? I will ask them about that on my next visit. Not only that, they checked my ID, lol. I was just excited to actually bring some pewter home. My wife was so excited to spot that for me!

[imashooter2]

Another ho hum glass bottom tankard. Had a new hallmark though... 14.1 ounces gross, should net 10 - 11 after the glass and caulk are removed.

http://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall52.jpg http://imashooter2.com/pewter/mug2.jpg

[imashooter2]

Picked up 2 of these 3.5 inch cordials for a quarter. Only 2.8 ounces each, but every little bit helps.:)
http://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall53.jpg
http://imashooter2.com/pewter/cord.jpg

[NewbieDave007]

Ok guys, I finally found some pewter at Goodwill. I also found one item that I think is pewter, but I want your opinion on (fingers crossed). I have attached 4 pictures of the same item. The hallmark seems to say "CREACIONES" and "ALEX". The joints are soldered and all of it bends extremely easily. As you also see in one of the pictures the handle snapped off (before me) and in doing so failed at the thin metal and not the solder. Also, it reads "Bolivia" in a couple of locations. For bonus points (not sure what those are good for), could you tell me what the heck this is?

Thanks.
Dave

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[imashooter2]

Looks like a device to pour from a bottle (typically wine). Is it big enough for a wine bottle? Anyone's guess if it's genuine pewter, but the break off of the handle is typical of the real stuff. Melt it separately, or break off a small bit and see if it will melt on top of what you know for sure is pewter.

[NewbieDave007]

Looks like a device to pour from a bottle (typically wine). Is it big enough for a wine bottle? Anyone's guess if it's genuine pewter, but the break off of the handle is typical of the real stuff. Melt it separately, or break off a small bit and see if it will melt on top of what you know for sure is pewter.

The size is right for a wine bottle so I think you've got it. I will try the melting test when I get far. It was half price day too, so 19.8 oz. for $1.50+tax.

How rude of me...I forgot to say "Thank you for your help." I apologize about that.

Thanks.
Dave

[BNE]

Thank you for the post. I have been burned when trying to find real pewter. I have only found real ZINC.[smilie=b:

[NewbieDave007]

These two items are my first (and second) for sure Pewter that I have found.

This item is 4.8oz. ($1+tax, because of half price day)
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This one is 7.8, but I know that some weight will be non-pewter in the middle. ($1+tax, because of half price day)
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[imashooter2]

The Asian stuff is always nice to find due to the slightly higher tin content. Thanks for the additions!

[imashooter2]

Found some more Jefferson cups. The large Stieff cup in the rear is 3 inches tall and 3.5 inches in diameter, 6.1 ounces. The Crownson made cup on the forward left is 2.75 inches tall and 3.25 inches in diameter, 4.3 ounces. Finally, the small Stieff P50 cup on the forward right is just slightly smaller than the Crownson and will fit tightly inside it. It is made of thicker metal though and at 5.2 ounces is more than 20% heavier.

http://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall56.jpg http://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall55.jpg http://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall54.jpg http://imashooter2.com/pewter/3cups.jpg

[1bilmr59]

Does it have to be marked to be pewter

[imashooter2]

Does it have to be marked to be pewter

No, but when buying non marked items, knowing what genuine pewter looks and feels like is important so as not to buy junk. Hallmarked stuff gives you the assurance that what you're buying is what you expect it to be.

[junkman1967]

I found a couple things at the local Goodwill. One was a silver plated duck bank that was marked Leonard on the bottom. The other was a plate that had Rogers 870 on the bottom, another said Continental and the last just had a beehive looking mark that I couldnt read. I need some help to know if they are Pewter or not. Thanks

[imashooter2]

Hard to tell for sure from the pictures, but the oval tray looks like aluminum, the round tray silver plated steel, the duck silver plated pot metal. The candle holder might be, but there is something about the interior bottom that tells me it is probably cast pot metal too.

[junkman1967]

Thanks, I will keep searching.

[imashooter2]

A 9.5 inch plate at 13.5 ounces. This also solves the overstamping mystery in post 162...

http://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall57.jpg http://imashooter2.com/pewter/plate.jpg

[captaint]

With all the questions regarding what is and what is not pewter - and these excellent hallmark examples, I'm thinking this thread ought to become a sticky. Very useful. Mike

[GlocksareGood]

The "prettier" of todays find. Found 5lbs today and will hit another goodwill this evening as we head out for meeting in a bit.
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f52/GlocksareGood/IMG_20131008_161042_316_zpsf44820cb.jpg

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f52/GlocksareGood/IMG_20131008_161112_506_zps2cd4eaa7.jpg

[rnhathaway]

I wish I would have seen this thread earlier. Just bought 4 Wilton plates. Oh well. Might try and resell them, But I won't label them as pewter as the seller did. :(

[Miata Mike]

I bought 13 pounds of "pewter" from my scrap yard for $3.00. Heck, they even gave me a 5 gallon pail to pile it in. Most of the stuff I hand picked was stamped pewter. Almost all of it was scuffed in a spot and folded like they some how tested it. Unbending the stuff seemed real easy. A lot of it looked pretty old.

I don't have much money into this stuff and was wondering if I melted the more obvious pewter first and added the other stuff after known stuff melted. My question is this, am I correct in assuming that non pewter items will require a much higher melting point? Is there any such thing as silver plated pewter? Thanks all!

[Sasquatch-1]

I have found silver plate.

[imashooter2]

I bought 13 pounds of "pewter" from my scrap yard for $3.00. Heck, they even gave me a 5 gallon pail to pile it in. Most of the stuff I hand picked was stamped pewter. Almost all of it was scuffed in a spot and folded like they some how tested it. Unbending the stuff seemed real easy. A lot of it looked pretty old.

I don't have much money into this stuff and was wondering if I melted the more obvious pewter first and added the other stuff after known stuff melted. My question is this, am I correct in assuming that non pewter items will require a much higher melting point? Is there any such thing as silver plated pewter? Thanks all!

Placing small amounts of unknown metal on top of molten known alloy held just above liquidus is pretty safe. Most contaminant type metals melt at much higher temperatures than genuine pewter. As Sasquatch-1 says, they do silver plate pewter, but most silver plate is not pewter. The stuff that isn't is clearly harder metal, won't bend like pewter and won't melt at anything near the same temperatures.

[imashooter2]

A few finds with new hallmarks. This stuff is all pretty beat up, which is fine for our use... it melts just like the pretty ones. :)

A 7.25 inch coffee pot, 1 pound 5 ounces. Terrible picture of this neat hallmark from Norway. I tried a dozen times before I settled on this blurry example. :oops:
http://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall62.jpg http://imashooter2.com/pewter/tea5.jpg

A 12 inch pitcher at 1 pound 7.5 ounces.
http://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall63.jpg http://imashooter2.com/pewter/pitcher6.jpg

A 10 inch bowl, 1 pound 6.8 ounces.
http://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall59.jpg http://imashooter2.com/pewter/bowl6.jpg

[imashooter2]

A 6.5 inch candy dish with a cut edge and a 2.5 inch creamer, 4.9 and 4.7 ounces respectively.
http://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall61.jpg http://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall60.jpg http://imashooter2.com/pewter/c-c.jpg

And last, a 5 inch porringer, 9.7 ounces.
http://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall58.jpg http://imashooter2.com/pewter/sticker2.jpg http://imashooter2.com/pewter/por2.jpg

[Cobalt60]

In researching the marks yall have posted for my pewter documentation I found the following sites:

www.thestieffcompany.com (http://www.thestieffcompany.com/The_Stieff_Company/STIEFF_PEWTER.html)

British Pewter Marks of the 20th Century (http://pewterbank.com/British_Pewter_Marks_of_the_20th_Century..17.pdf)

The second brings up a .pdf file. Just wanted to mention that considering the recent security problems reported concerning Adobe .pdf files. I did download it and my antivirus didn't report any issues.

[imashooter2]

A smaller 4.5 inch tankard with a bad dragon engraving. 9.5 ounces raw and 7.5 ounces net.

http://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall64.jpg http://imashooter2.com/pewter/mug3.jpg

[kens]

Is this thing pewter?
it is 1lb, 6oz. and feels soft like pewter.

85409

85410

85411

looks like pewter, feels like pewter, but I am not really sure.
Anybody recognize this?

[dpaultx]

I'd say it was pewter based on your pic of the hallmark that looks just like this one found on Danish Pewter Hallmarks (http://macacke.com/Garage/Danish_Pewter.html).

http://macacke.com/Garage/Danish_Pewter_files/_Just%20Andersen%20mini%202.jpg

dp

[imashooter2]

The form is wrong, but the hallmark is right. I'd take a chance on it.

[imashooter2]

A few more pieces...
A 14X9 inch tray at 1 pound 7.7 ounces:

http://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall65.jpg http://imashooter2.com/pewter/tray.jpg

A 6.25 inch plate at 6.9 ounces (it's eyetalian :)):

http://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall69.jpg http://imashooter2.com/pewter/plate2.jpg

And some neat stuff from Norway which apparently has a rich tradition of pewterware. A 4.5 inch goblet at 8.8 ounces, a 4.25 inch cup at 5 ounces and a 3.76 inch trinket dish at 3.8 ounces:

http://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall67.jpghttp://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall66.jpghttp://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall68.jpg http://imashooter2.com/pewter/norway.jpg

[imashooter2]

I also picked up a bunch of creamers and sugars. Same old stuff, but a few new hallmarks for the collection:

http://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall70.jpghttp://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall71.jpghttp://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall72.jpghttp://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall73.jpghttp://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall74.jpghttp://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall75.jpghttp://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall76.jpghttp://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall77.jpghttp://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall78.jpghttp://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall79.jpg

[Mike Malat]

Stopped by the goodwill store on my lunch hr today. Got this for $3 , appox 1lb 11oz. Also found a craftsman router for $10. Score!!!!!

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[imashooter2]

Nice find! Thanks for the addition.

[imashooter2]

Looks like you have to be careful with salt shakers too. Some are glass lined. These are a healthy 6.8 ounces before. After... "not much." A new hallmark though.

http://imashooter2.com/pewter/hall80.jpg http://imashooter2.com/pewter/shake.jpg