Candy Store Surplus Rifles--Sickness

[glenkans]

Guys, I'm almost 60 and just recently became enamored (thats love for most of us) with the older mil. rifles. Ya they were there all the time but I passed them by for the newer models that were in more popular calibers.When I go to the suppliers web sites, I want one or two of so many that I can't possibly afford them all .Now I'm looking at the Schmidt Rueben k31 and reading about the accuracy potential of these battle guns. Will it ever end?How can some guys restrain themselves? What's the usual number of mil. rifles most guys have at their homes?I'm blaming you guys and this web-site. P S who was the one that said they just wanted to lay down and roll around in a newly opened crate of military rifles? Sick or what. Best wishes, Glen

[Bloodman14]

I have three, myself; an SKS and two Lee-Enfields. Fun, fun, fun!

[slide]

You are right,it is a sickness. There is no cure for it. Don't fight it,just give in and life will be better!

[Bret4207]

I'm only 51 and I've had it for years! When I think of the '03-A3's, '09 Argentines, Ross's, Enfields, Krags and other assorted ex-mil rifles I've passed on over the years....makes yuh sick!

[dragonrider]

SKS, two Enfields, two 1903's, 3 Mausers, two sporterized one not. I really like the Enfields they have the slickest actions. I think the 03's are the second slickest. And the Mauser's, well I just really like Mausers. Have a few actions hanging around that I intend to do something with someday, nothing exotic just something I don't have.

[BruceB]

Many years back, when we lived in an employer-owned 12-wide trailer in Yellowknife NWT, two friends were sitting on the couch at the front end, looking down the length of the "house". One asked the other how many guns he could see from where he sat.

After a considerable pause, the second guy stated "One hundred nineteen." The first gent said he'd counted 121. (These totals did not include our handguns, which were out of sight.

Most of these guns were militaries of one sort or another, maybe 80% anyway. It was a golden age for collectors of military rifles, and I've had the addiction for a long time.

Yep, we are sickos for certain-sure...

[Hip's Ax]

With me it was "just an 03A3" so I could shoot the mil surp bolt rifle match at the local club. Then I found out there was a WWII sniper match right after, wellll, Sarco has these nice Mosin PU snipers....OK, I'll get one. Oh look, lots of these mil bolt matches are won my Swedish Mausers......himmm Ray's has one on the rack......

LOL and so it began. 03's, 03A3, Krags, Garands, Mosins, Schmidt Rubins, Enfields, Mausers......

A Lovely addiction it is :smile:

[EMC45]

3 mosins, 5 Mausers, 1 Enfield, 1 K31...I'm only slightly sick......

[frnkeore]

For me,
I'm kinda stuck in the 2 centurys back mil rifles, two GEW 88's, one 1898 Mauser, one 1898 Krag and one 1897 RB. I really like the 88's and the Krags.

Frank

[legend]

All of you are just sick....

What do you have against plastic junk created today?

And the new cartridges we "NEED" when we had no gaps to fill...wsms,wssms,327federal...etc

i love my mosin 91/30
i love my k-31
i love my k-98 (unfired by me as of yet)

some day i will have an 03-A3.then i will be satisfied.

Skeeter and jack o'connor would frown . rightly so i think.


what a nice sickness i have.

[Hardcast416taylor]

Mausers, US Enfields, P-14 Enfields, Springfields, Lee-Enfields, Moisins, Swedes, Trapdoors, Rolling Blocks,Garands, .30 Carbines, M-1A and these are after I thinned down the "herd"! What do you mean "sickness"? I thought this started after I got kicked in the head as a boy on the farm?Robert:groner:

[Dutch4122]

98/29 Persian Mauser, 24/47 Yugo Mauser, 1891 Argentine Mauser, FR-8 Spanish Mauser, 1908 Brazilian Mauser, Enfield No.4MkI, Two Mosin Nagant M-91/30's, Finnish M-39 Mosin, Two Mosin carbines (M-38 & 91/59), 1917 Remington Mosin, Yugo 59/66 SKS, French Mas-36, Remington-Lee 1899 .30-40 (MI Natl. Guard Rifle)

Yeah, I'm sick, too!:veryconfu

[Ed in North Texas]

All of you are just sick....

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some day i will have an 03-A3.then i will be satisfied.

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what a nice sickness i have.

Satisfied? I don't think so. My wife says it is a sickness, but doesn't think it is particularly "nice".

Not sure how many I have, but I know it is less than 100. And I still have many instances of "I wish I had bought...".

Ed

[Piedmont]

I'm just a boy at 50 but have WAY more than three. I wish I had gotten in earlier but got in early enough that I have a lot of stuff worth way more than when I bought it. Nothing is as cool as old milsurps if you like history.

Buy a K-31. They are still priced reasonably and are a high quality rifle.

[bowfin]

Model 91/30
2 Yugo SKS
1 Chinese SKS
1 unfired Mk. 4 No. 2 Lee Enfield
1 unfired Polish M-44 Carbine
1 Russian M-44 Carbine
4 M96 Swedes

I just wish I had more time to shoot them.
2 Swiss K-31

[mold maker]

I'm embarassed to say that I really don't know, but my wife says it's way too many. It's a med sized safe full.
Sadly I'm still looking. There's never enough.

[RonE]

I've had several. In 1958 I got a $7.95 Carcano which I sporterized. In 1961 a Martini Cadet rifle which I rebarrelled and chambered to .218 Bee as a High School project. Then came a 1884 Springfield Trapdoor which was in too good shape to cut up. Those rifles are all gone now and of course I wish I had them back. Currently I have a sporterized '98 Mauser in '06 and a Martini Cadet being made into a 5.6X50R. The rifle I reload for is a sporterized Krag that shoots them 220 gr metal things at 2,000 fps and 200 gr Boolits at 1,800 fps.
I had the most fun with a hacksaw, drill press and paint cans with a MN 91/30 but someone wanted it more than I did so it is gone now.

[frank505]

just a couple of 03's and an 03A3 are all I need or want. two spare barrels in wrappers, lots of M2 ball in cans. lots of primers and powder, life is good.

[Moonie]

I currently own only 2 rifles, Mauser '98 and just finished building a lightweight AR-15 in 6.8 SPC with polymer lower. 2 extremes I think...

[bydand]

the usual number? Well over 200 but how much over that I haven't bothered to count;-)
It's just too damm much effort to pull them all out of the closet.

[Adk Mike]

I have two US model 1917's in 30-06 very good shape. One a Remington and the other an Eddystone. I also have a 91 30. Shoot only cast in all three. Great Fun

[frkelly74]

Sadly I have been thinning down my accumulation. By the way I still have a K31 and a Mdl 1911 Swiss listed for sale in the swappin-sellin Section. The k31 is priced a little above run of the mill at $330 but it does have shipping included and it is in an unusual configuration. Check it out under my posts.

[Buckshot]

...............I had an FFL from 1982 until 2001 when we moved to town. I won't bore you with a list of what I've got:shock: Now I look back at the $59 M96 & $79 M38 Swedes, the $105 M1909 Argies, etc, etc, & etc.

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The above are just 4 pages from one Century Arms fliers. There were 5-6 decent sized importers going strong from the importation law change of 1986 to the late 90's when they began to slowly fade away as the supplies died.

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When you consider that you could buy a rifle like this M98/08 Brazilian contract Mauser for $89, it was truly a wonderous time. Donna wanted to know if I was a member of a rifle a month club :veryconfu

.................Buckshot

[roverboy]

I've got so far........
1942 BCD K98
sporter 1916 Spanish
sporter 38 Turk
1903 Rem. that I got that is bubbaed(great shooter)
'42 Inland M1 Carbine
'44 WRA M1 Garand
1941 Johnson (needs correct barrel)
1911 Swiss rifle
'36 Tula 91-30
'45 Ihvesk M44
'54 Romanian M44

[jonk]

I haven't counted them in ages and I might forget something but best as I can remember... we'll sort by bore diameter.

6.5s:
1 Jap 38 carbine
2 Jap 38 long rifles
1 Dutch Mannlicher
1 Greek Mannlicher-schoenauer
1 Swede 96
1 M41 Carcano
1 Jap type I

7mm
1 1895 Chileno
1 08 Brazilian

7.35mm
1 Italian Carcano 38 short rifle

30 cal
2 M1 Garands
1 1903 Springfield
1 03A3
1 1917 Enfield
1 Brazilian M954
1 1898 Krag rifle
1 MAS 36
1 MAS 36/51
1 MAS 49/56
1 K31
1 K11
1 G 1889
1 G 1896/11
1 G 1911
1 2A1 Enfield
1 M1 Carbine

Fat 30s
1 99 Arisaka
1 No1Mk3
1 P14
1 Yugo SKS
1 Chinese SKS
1 1891 Mosin
2 91/30 Mosins
1 M44
1 91/59
1 M39
1 1891 Argentine long rifle
1 1891 Argentine carbine
1 1909 Argentine long rifle
1 No4Mk2 Enfield

8mms
2 Gew 88s
1 Gew 88/05/35
1 Gew 98
3 Gew 98ks
1 Mauser-Verguiero
1 Persian 33 Carbine
1 Persian 98/29 long rifle
1 Czech 98/22
1 Hakim
1 M95M
1 1893 Turk
1 1903 Turk
1 98/38 Turk
2 1938 Turk
1 Spanish M43
1 VZ-24
1 Yugo M.24
1 24/47
1 M.48a

Fat 8mms
1 M.95 long rifle
1 M.95 carbine

10.4mm
1 69/71 Vetterli
2 M.78 Vetterlis (all with centerfire conversion)

11mm
1 Gew 1871
1 Gew 71/84

45
1 1873 Trapdoor

......so, 74? I'm probably forgetting something being as it is off the top of my head, not looking at paperwork. Those are just the milsurp rifles; I also have a decent number of .22s, modern guns, muzzleloaders, and shotguns. But the milsurps are the single largest group for sure. Wonderful guns, lots of fun!

[jonk]

Forgot the G.33/40 and the Portuguese Kropatschek and the Lebel Berthier 08/15 (I think, those numbers sound off?). So 77.

[roverboy]

WOW! Jonk that's cool as Polar bear ****. Sounds like you got a heck of a collection.

[old turtle]

I agree with frank505, Except a man can not have too many 03's and 03A3's

[jonk]

I agree with frank505, Except a man can not have too many 03's and 03A3's

Well my goal is to have a good representative example of as many things as possible. I agree though, the Springfields are among my very favorites.

[Ed in North Texas]

I agree with frank505, Except a man can not have too many 03's and 03A3's

A man can not have too many firearms.

[GREENCOUNTYPETE]

you are all sick but i can help!

just pack 1 of anything you have 2 or more of up in a hard case and mail them to me or my FFL down the street if that makes you feel better.

if you send a 1000 rounds of ammo also i will insure many junior shooters shoot them so that they can share in the addiction and keep this nation strong.

[Hardcast416taylor]

Mausers, US Enfields, P-14 Enfields, Springfields, Lee-Enfields, Moisins, Swedes, Trapdoors, Rolling Blocks,Garands, .30 Carbines, M-1A and these are after I thinned down the "herd"! What do you mean "sickness"? I thought this started after I got kicked in the head as a boy on the farm?Robert:groner:


Just goes to show that I suffer from CRS, forgot the SKS and civy version of AK.Robert

[azrednek]

I like many kick myself daily for not buying more. I have accumulated apx 30 mil-surp rifles but the numbers should be in the hundreds. During the time I had a FFL guns became a business and I lost interest in collecting, shooting and even hunting was just time away from it all. If you ever want to lose interest in guns and shooting, turn it into a business. Everything simply becomes merchandise.

Back in the 70's we used to get together on weekends and shoot metal dongs at long ranges with mil-surp rifles. Used to be allot of fun. Shooting cheapie surplus ammo through the factory irons at ranges from 2-400 yds. Not counting US rifles the most accurate best I recall at the long ranges, were 09 Argies and K98's.

[303Guy]

OH MY HAT! You folks have done pretty well!

I have a few Lee Enfields but you folks make feel like I'm missing something! None of mine are full original military. Not even my Cavelry Carbine carries an original barrel although it appears to be an original Lee Speed carbine barrel. (Hey, that's a start isn't it?) I really want a Long Tom and a No4 in full military dress but an original carbine would be just great.

However, having one or two 1896 plus a 1902 and a 1904 SHTLE actioned rifle is not too shabby. 8-)

(The 1904 SHTLE is the predecessor to the SMLE and has a different body with an integral charger cast into the body and had the other half of the charger integral with the bolt head).

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[Wayne Smith]

Funny, nobody has mentioned the pistols/revolvers! Couple of Mak's, one Bulgarian, one Russian Civ., CZ52 and CZ82, Russian Nagant as well as a couple of M95's and K31's, and a Chileano Mauser sportzerized that I got already bubba'd. I'm sure there are more, but that's all of the top of my head.

[smokemjoe]

over 3 dozen garands, 17 vetterlis and to many others, All shooters

[frnkeore]

Yes, I did forget the pistols and the 7.62x39's

1 Model 54 Tok, in 7.62x25

1 Star super in 9mm Largo

1 SKS thumb hole that takes AK mags

1 AK sniper with a 20" barrel

Frank

[hydraulic]

My first milsurp was a "G" date luger with a Berlin 1936 holster with extra clip and tool for $45 in 1957. Still have it.

[wallenba]

Got bit by the same bug:
Four variants of Mosin-Nagants
Lee Enfield No. 1 Mark III
K98 Mauser (DOU 1944)
Type 99 Arisaka
M95 Styer
K31 Schmidt-Rubin

Still Jonesing for a Springfield

[Canuck Bob]

I am a sane and sensible man, one, LE No.5 Mk.1.

Did I mention I only bought it recently and it looks lonely among the lever actions!

[303Guy]

I am a sane and sensible man, one, LE No.5 Mk.1. It would be nice to see some photo's with it's groups too. [smilie=1:

[Canuck Bob]

303, I was much busier with this darn stem cell transplant than expected to join the postal shoot. They collected my blood stem cells Tuesday and I get them back Sept. 21. Industrial cancer treatment is a stern master. I might get to shoot some factory stuff next week. I an anxious to test for groups on the little No.5, otherwise it cleaned up real well. 0 bolt with good headspace, bolt lugs engage equally, clip lips needed a little shaping to correct the feed but it works well now, and typical LE trigger, a little heavy but crisp.

I did order my mold from CBE. I'm quite excited as he had a discount version of the 313-174 GC single cavity on the shelf for quick shipping.

I'll be recuperating at the casting pot and loading bench.

[Jal5]

I started with pistols inherited from my uncle: P38 in 9mm, Mauser 1934 in 32 ACP, and a Belgian Bayarde 32 ACP; I purchased a CZ82 in 9mm Mak last year; and now I have a craving for several milsurp rifles with the SKS leading the pack. Crazy business this is!
Joe

[bob208]

you want pistols 3 broomhandles a luger some stars and astras brownings colt army s&w and a bunch of ruger old models.

back in the 80's when all the mausers were comming in a friend had his ffl. we ordered 1 of every thing seeing prices now i should have bought 3 or 4 of everything.

we went to navy arms in wv. got in the wearhouse and picked what we wanted. even help open some creats of mausers that just came in. they even let me go through the m1's and put together 8 good matching ones . i put together more for other dealers that were there also. they offered me a job.

[azrednek]

My first milsurp was a "G" date luger with a Berlin 1936 holster with extra clip and tool for $45 in 1957. Still have it.

That was a real sweet find.

Don't remember what my first mil-sup was. Back in the mail order days I ordered a rifle from an ad in Field and Stream magazine from my school's library. I was about 13 or 14 years old. My mother had a bleep-fit when it arrived with the mail. After getting the 3rd degree when I got home from school. She never opened it or allowed me to. She wrote refused on the box and gave it to the mailman the next day. She followed it up with a stern letter and a few weeks later I got a complete refund. If I remember right it was about 16-18 bux and it included ammo.

[Wayne Smith]

First one - that would be the Turk Mauser I got mail order in the 70's. I was greatly disappointed, I had ordered a 7mm Mauser! It had a well warn throat and the muzzle was also well warn. It is now an 8mm-06 with a 24" barrel. Essentially got a new throat and a new muzzle by that simple operation. Cut the original stock down, put a receiver sight on it. It's still straight bolt, cock on closing. My truck gun.

[cubrock]

It started years ago with a Mosin-Nagant Model 91/30. Since then, I've owned about one of everything, except maybe a Beaumont-Vitali. :) I love milsurps.

[greywuuf]

So do "reconstructed" rifles count? ie: my FN/Fal Izzy heavy barrel numerous FN G1's and the assorted AK parts guns ( Hungarian AMD63 and Polish Tantals)? cause if they do i guess I got the sickness to. oh and then there are the cetme's and various other HK' and derivatives.

[gew98]

So do "reconstructed" rifles count? ie: my FN/Fal Izzy heavy barrel numerous FN G1's and the assorted AK parts guns ( Hungarian AMD63 and Polish Tantals)? cause if they do i guess I got the sickness to. oh and then there are the cetme's and various other HK' and derivatives.

Nothing wrong at all with the FAL/L1A1. I have a pre'94 enterprise L1A1 and love it to death. Just got me a metric FAL and love it too. They hardly fit in with my M16A1 clones and gobs of gew98's and 303's...but hell you gotta have at least a theme , well sort of anyhow I guess . I started with a type 38 jap rifle given to me when I was eleven...and it was all downhill from there !.

[adrians]

not much but here goes,,,
gew88
kar88
k98--dou44
gew98 danzig 1916
m43 spanish mauser
1916 spanish shorty
91 38 carcano
m95 steyr
m44 moisin
springfield trapdoor 45-70
turk k.kale 8mm mauser
pre 64 mod94
old sxs coachgun 12g
1968 2a1 ishy 7.62 nato
1943 #4 mk1 303
a few more lying around but i'm to lazy to go see what they are( i forgot some stuff):twisted::coffee::twisted:

[greywuuf]

Man, I have not thought about my Favorite FAL in a long while, I need to finish the 358 win conversion ( barrel is profiled and chambered just need the extractor relief cut made )

It is my Ugly truck/ sno-go/ winter beater Complete with Krylon camo. it is a combination of an enterprise inch cut upper on a British lower with an "Arctic" (short) stock canadian stripper clip upper ( the one in the photo is a tapco rail) custom 16" bob and a shortened gas system and assorted ABC parts such as the ambi mag release.
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This photo was taken before I installed the Douglass 358 Win barrel on it.

[gew98]

GW ; tell me more about your FH on your FAL. I'd like to put something like that on my metric !!!.

[greywuuf]

The FH ( Flash hider?) on the one in the picture ? yeah... well, it was a Long style Birdcage I can't recall if that is the one they call the Stolle ? anyway when I cut 2" inches ( I think) out of the gas system and moved the gas block back, I also bobbed the 21" barrel to 16", I had this annoying hole though where the old gas port was.... So I bored the inside of the flash hider out and slid it over the barrel and silver soldered it on looks like a FH but its not, it is just a sleeve to cover the hole. I got the hider with one of the parts kits I bought at the time ( I was a FFL and ordered a lot of stuff in those days not even sure which kit came with that muzzle device.... DSA used to list them to buy separate though)

if you need better pictures or more info feel free to ask either here or PM

Dan

ok I went back and looked... it makes more sense now, that was originally the "long" G1 quick detach Flash hider, since I was bobbing the barrel I could not rethread it for the hider ( since it is a QD lug and not threads ) So I used it as a sleeve. DSA has them on their web page.

[tadeus]

I'm 43 (almost 44) and have 1 Mexican Mauser carbine (probably another one coming soon, and also an Erfurt 1904 Mauser)

[bydand]

Lost count around 200, mostly Enfields, Sniders, Martini's but there is other stuff.
Roughly 50 handguns
And there is the Vickers, Bren, Lewis, Sten.
Can't find any ammo for the PIAT or the 2 inch mortar. (at least not live):sad:

[gew98]

I'm 43 (almost 44) and have 1 Mexican Mauser carbine (probably another one coming soon, and also an Erfurt 1904 Mauser)

Love to see your 1904 erfurt gew98...my favorite thing you know.

[gew98]

The FH ( Flash hider?) on the one in the picture ? yeah... well, it was a Long style Birdcage I can't recall if that is the one they call the Stolle ? anyway when I cut 2" inches ( I think) out of the gas system and moved the gas block back, I also bobbed the 21" barrel to 16", I had this annoying hole though where the old gas port was.... So I bored the inside of the flash hider out and slid it over the barrel and silver soldered it on looks like a FH but its not, it is just a sleeve to cover the hole. I got the hider with one of the parts kits I bought at the time ( I was a FFL and ordered a lot of stuff in those days not even sure which kit came with that muzzle device.... DSA used to list them to buy separate though)

if you need better pictures or more info feel free to ask either here or PM

Dan

ok I went back and looked... it makes more sense now, that was originally the "long" G1 quick detach Flash hider, since I was bobbing the barrel I could not rethread it for the hider ( since it is a QD lug and not threads ) So I used it as a sleeve. DSA has them on their web page.

The G1's have that 'fat' grenade ring and bayo lug...you likely machined them off . The "stolle" FH is that obnoxiously big heavy grenade launching FH...you could not give one to me..they are fugly !.

[uncle joe]

lots of lucky folks here. I only have three and a half.
sks, stag ar carbine .223, and an upper in 6.8spc for same and an M1 Garand.
I think I counted 24 posts before seeing a Garand, shame shame,
"the greatest battle instrument ever devised" GSP I think the gouberment should supply every home with one :)

[tadeus]

Love to see your 1904 erfurt gew98...my favorite thing you know.

If I get my hands on it, i´ll surely post some pics

[greywuuf]

The G1's have that 'fat' grenade ring and bayo lug...you likely machined them off . The "stolle" FH is that obnoxiously big heavy grenade launching FH...you could not give one to me..they are fugly !.

That is correct,I machined all of the protrusions off of a G1 FH. I put a lot of learning hours into the old Southbend lathe on that build. It was a bunch of left overs from Various G1 and imbel kits as well as Sales items from theABC (Australian, British Canadian L1A1) section of the various wholesalers all mixed together into a "assault weapon ban" compliant "shining example of all the best features of the FAL rifle of the world."
At least that's what i told myself. turns out it is just another "FrankenFal" but one that always brings a smile to my Face and has a suprissiing number of hours in the outdoors. its allready ugly, I dont realy mind keeping it handy in the lonely places of the world, because it always works, I have fired it grabbed out of a scabbard on the snowmachine at -20 degree's it has ridden through Bogs and swamps in a rifle rack in both a SUSV and a German surplus 404 unimog. it has character but I like it.


Dan

[Ed in North Texas]

lots of lucky folks here. I only have three and a half.
sks, stag ar carbine .223, and an upper in 6.8spc for same and an M1 Garand.
I think I counted 24 posts before seeing a Garand, shame shame,
"the greatest battle instrument ever devised" GSP I think the gouberment should supply every home with one :)

We're hiding them from the gubmint. :bigsmyl2:

[motorcycle_dan]

I love this thread. I'm afraid to count my mil-surp long guns. My mistake was getting a bigger safe. It immediately begged to be filled. I just last year bought my first CMP Garand, then a 91/30 Nagant, then,,,, well you get the idea. I like the oddball stuff and some of this is really odd ball.

[frnkeore]

I had been shacking for a week before this last gun show, needing something to go straight into the vein.

Well, I GOT IT!!! It's my third GEW 88. This one a 1891/05 Danzig In the best condition of my three, inside and out. Prefect bore and all full of cosmoline, everywhere. I don't think it's been shot since WW1, especially since it didn't have a bolt head. I immediately pulled the bolt head from my worst one and shot it AND the "fix" only cost me $40.

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[smkummer]

03, 03A3, US1917, Gew 1925 Mauser, 308 Ishapor Enfield (2 of them) and a carbine Mosin. And they all shoot or will shoot cast bullets. The Gew was given to me and the last 3 rifles were bought for less than $100 ea.. With Privi and others making affordable ammo for some of the odd calibers and with the ability to reload, bargains are out there.

[OeldeWolf]

I have mausers (several countries/ages, 1891 to 1947), Schmidt Rubens, Enfields, a few Nagants. Unfortunately, I am having to sell many of them. Feel free to PM me.