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Ben
07-28-2011, 05:17 PM
I'd been wanting to take my new NOE 311365's to the range and test them in my 308 Win.

Today, seemed like a good day to do it ! !

I decided to test the new bullets in my 98 Mauser , VZ-24 . The rifle has a 6.5 X 20 Variable ,30 mm tube, Leupold Vari X III with tapered cross hairs and a fine dot. The rifle has a 12 oz. trigger and is one of my favorite rifles. All groups below are 5 shots at 100 yds. For my " 1st Outing " with the 311365, I was pleased.

While I was at the range , I fired a few 311291's. They also shot pretty good.
All of my g/c's that you'll see in the groups below were made with Pat Marlin's CheckMaker tool out of Amerimax .014 " thickness aluminum.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/haysb/07282011.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/haysb/07282011001.jpg

Here is a photo of the NOE, Brass , 311365 mold. A true joy to cast with ( and shoot also , I might add ! ! )

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/haysb/311365%20NOE%20Brass%202%20Cav/PICT0004.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/haysb/311365%20NOE%20Brass%202%20Cav/014.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/haysb/002-4.jpg


The group below is sub inch for 5 shots. 4 of the bullets are in about 5/8" or so.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/haysb/0012-1.jpg

Bret4207
07-28-2011, 05:52 PM
Nice shooting Ben :drinks:, but I prefer to spread my shots out over 8-10 inches, even a foot or more sometimes. Make counting the holes easier...if I can find them!:guntootsmiley:

45nut
07-28-2011, 06:20 PM
I think you need to attend a NCBS so I can borrow that gun for a few shots! Always did my best shootin' with borrowed rifles there!

btroj
07-28-2011, 07:47 PM
I am not sure which I like more- Ben's shooting capabilities or his photographic prowess. Darn well done on both accounts Ben.

Ben
07-28-2011, 07:49 PM
btroj :

Thanks for those nice comments. As to shooting and photography, I enjoy both.....

Ben

Ole
07-28-2011, 11:01 PM
Well done Ben.

You have some good taste in molds/rifles/etc.

PatMarlin
07-29-2011, 12:35 AM
Nice Ben-

But hey... I thought spitzer molds don't shoot? ...:mrgreen:

Ben
07-29-2011, 06:28 AM
Pat :

1 more " old wives tale " proven wrong.

Ben

Bret4207
07-29-2011, 08:27 AM
Nice Ben-

But hey... I thought spitzer molds don't shoot? ...:mrgreen:

That was the same thought I had. The more I see the more I'm thinking alignment plays a far, far bigger issue in spitzer shooting than we think. It was 45 2.1 that got me thinking about that. Take that bee u tee full boolit of Bens and get it cockeyed in the case or chamber and I doubt he'll get those groups. I think it can happen with any design, but the long unsupported spitzer nose just acts as a lever to crank into ever larger circles.

Ben
07-29-2011, 08:51 AM
Bret :

Looking at the engraving marks on my NOE 311365 and doing a little bit of rough measuring, it seems that about 2/3 rds of the bullet's length is in contact with the bore. I think that issue alone really helps in alignment.

I use a specially modified Lee Seating die with a " floating " bullet seater plug. Seating your bullets in as near perfect alignment , as you say, is very impt.

Ben

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/haysb/311365%20NOE%20Brass%202%20Cav/002.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/haysb/311365%20NOE%20Brass%202%20Cav/PICT00047865.jpg