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300winmag
06-21-2011, 07:40 PM
? Anyone neck size only, 30-30 336 marlin with good results.

swamp
06-21-2011, 11:56 PM
I would try it and see how they do in your gun. Only why to know is to try.

Smoke-um if you got-um
06-22-2011, 01:38 AM
I've used a standard hand Lee Loader many times to load jacketed bullet 30-30 rounds. I keep my cases separated as to the rifle they came out of and after sizing with the mallet I single load the empty case into the rifle to check for function. Occasionally a case will have a soft shoulder and distort causing it to chamber hard or not at all. Most will chamber just fine and these are loaded and then rechecked for chambering again. It's not fast, but it does work just fine if you are diligent with the chambering checks. Usually once you pick out the cases that are troublesome the remainder will load just fine for many reloads after that without any issues. Good luck,

Mike

JIMinPHX
06-22-2011, 03:19 AM
I used to do that when I only had a Lee Loader for my .30-30. Since I only had 1 gun, I didn't have to worry about keeping the brass sorted. Even so, my results were so-so at best. Pretty much every reloaded cartridge was a little stiff when I closed the lever on it. Some were worse than others. I sometimes had extraction issues too. About 60 or 80 rounds later, I bought a set of full length dies & all was well.

woody1
06-22-2011, 09:34 AM
? Anyone neck size only, 30-30 336 marlin with good results.

I started my lifetime of reloading with a Lyman 310 and a 30-30. I had only one 30-30 (Winchester 94) and all cases were originally fired in it. I loaded with it for years including full bore jacketed bullets for deer hunting. I still load most 30-30's by neck sizing although I've advanced to a fancy turret machine called a Lyman Tru-line Jr. and most of 'em are shot in Marlins.

Regards, Woody

1Shirt
06-22-2011, 09:42 AM
I only full length size 30-30 for my M-94 after about 5-6 loadings. Never had any real problem. Think full length sizing every time for 30-30's is levers is over rated, over works brass, and reduces case life. I do pay attention to the OAL of the case and trim as necessary.
1Shirt!:coffee:

Char-Gar
06-22-2011, 09:43 AM
You can neck size 30-30 cases for a levergun. But sooner or later, when they start to chamber a little hard, you will want to size the case farther down.

Papa smurf
06-22-2011, 10:38 AM
I have 2 sizing dies . One I full length size for any cases that did not come from my 336. The other die I have backed out one full turn for my rifle . Dont know if you would call that neck sizing , but it works and the cases seem to last forever. I only shoot cast at 15 to 1700 f/s. Good Shooting----------Papa Smurf

gerrycan
06-25-2011, 05:57 AM
1Shirt,
I follow the same procedure on 30-30 . Gerry.

jlchucker
07-02-2011, 09:10 AM
You can neck size 30-30 cases for a levergun. But sooner or later, when they start to chamber a little hard, you will want to size the case farther down.

That's been my experience as well.

Larry Gibson
07-02-2011, 01:05 PM
With 30-30 cases dedicated to one rifle (I have 3 different 30-30s) I always neck size for both cast and jacketed bullets. The exception is top end SAAMI psi jacketed loads. Tjose are FL sized in a RCBS X-die which does not set the shoulder back or size the case sides down as much as my regular RCBS or Hornady FL dies do. Neck sizing only is sufficient for 99% of the 30-30 loads I use, especially the lower pressured cast loads.

Larry Gibson

Baron von Trollwhack
07-02-2011, 06:32 PM
Yes, neck size. Consider fired cases "fire formed" for perfect fit. When the case no longer fits rezize just enough for easy chambering. Dies are all over the map, for neck, base, and chamber sizes, be aware. BvT

geargnasher
07-02-2011, 07:52 PM
I modified a Lee sizer die for my 336, which has a little excessive headspace, and I use the same resizing procedure for it most of the time . The mod was to hone the neck out until it gave me .004" under chamber neck dimensions on my brass necks, then install a Lee .303 British EZExpander rod (.3105"), set to one turn off the shellholder, and that makes any brass headstamp I own chamber and have the correct neck tension for .311" boolits. Every fifth firing I give the necks a light anneal, trim/VLD chamfer, and turn the die to 1/2 turn off the shellholder and knock the shoulder back some.

My Savage 219 likes the Lee Collet neck-sizing die, adjusted to just slightly size the brass, not all the way against the .307" mandrel, and I haven't yet after six or seven reloads had to push the shoulders back any on it's brass (segregated). I don't crimp for that one, either.

Gear

nicholst55
07-02-2011, 10:24 PM
If anyone is interested in one, I saw where Dillon is blowing out .30-30 Neck dies (http://www.dillonprecision.com/#/content/p/9/pid/25793/catid/4/Dillon_30_30_Neck_Size_Die) with carbide expander balls for $15. They only have a few in stock, though.

Throckmorton
07-03-2011, 12:07 PM
I gave up after trying it a few times,too many rounds would not chamber.Luckily my pard had a bolt gun along so we fired them in his gun.

uscra112
07-06-2011, 05:04 PM
Yes, neck size. Consider fired cases "fire formed" for perfect fit. When the case no longer fits rezize just enough for easy chambering. Dies are all over the map, for neck, base, and chamber sizes, be aware. BvT

Boy, ain't that the truth! I've got maybe half a dozen .30-30 sizers, and I've learnt that some of them shrink the base by .010" more than others. One I figured that out, I selected one that does not do that for neck-sizing for my 336, and "retired" the rest. I don't shoot all that much .30-30, and have never deliberately full-length sized any brass for mine.