bigted
06-17-2011, 09:59 AM
ok so i got caught up in the mood and overdid it some...wound up with 6 45-70 rifles and all my notes that i took down for all the experiments are gone with the virus that my old computer received
i seem to have been a small bit overconfident as well ...but this is just another note in the stories of my life...overdo till it hurts then stop n open my eyes to see what havoc Ive raised this time..
my accuracy was dismal anyway and all the stuff i experimented with is still in my noggin somewhere so not a total loss i guess. my one problem as i remember was that i was switching from rifle to rifle with the same cases and the same boolits and so on. 1 load for all so to speak. consequently the best i ever came up with was around 4 inch groups at 100 yds. tore me up as i had one hole groups at 50 yds so i continued to scratch wondering what happened to that grouping i had in winter.
ho hum ... im going to try a different approach this time. gonna use one rifle and keep written records in a book that will stay with that rifle...BROWNING 1885 HI-WALL BPCR TO START WITH...
i also decided to try everything ive read about producing the most accurate loads for this rifle in this regard... i received unto myself 100 new Winchester cases which i carefully length trimmed and weighed...keeping only the cases that weighed between 265.5 gr and 266.5 gr's. ill use the others to be sighters. i then carefully ground a mark between the w;s with my small grinder on the rim for indexing needs. i then full length sized them using the index mark in relationship to the die. also used the index for belling the mouth and also priming the cases.
now to the question...what is the best loads for fire forming these new cases to the chamber? can i use the smokless and jacketed for this or should i stick with bp and my 520 gr boolits? full strength loads or lite loads? im going to use the index for cambering as well and i have the book started for all these things im doing as well as the outcome for every step along the way.
maybe i can break into some satisfying groups finally with the basics started with in an orderly fashion.
read a post from montana charlie about hunting for a lost pocket knife and as i chuckled about the analogy...i had to look inward and laugh out loud for i recognize his storie in myself. thanks all for the patients and long suffering with this rambunctious kid at heart.
8-)..;-)...:grin:...;-)
i seem to have been a small bit overconfident as well ...but this is just another note in the stories of my life...overdo till it hurts then stop n open my eyes to see what havoc Ive raised this time..
my accuracy was dismal anyway and all the stuff i experimented with is still in my noggin somewhere so not a total loss i guess. my one problem as i remember was that i was switching from rifle to rifle with the same cases and the same boolits and so on. 1 load for all so to speak. consequently the best i ever came up with was around 4 inch groups at 100 yds. tore me up as i had one hole groups at 50 yds so i continued to scratch wondering what happened to that grouping i had in winter.
ho hum ... im going to try a different approach this time. gonna use one rifle and keep written records in a book that will stay with that rifle...BROWNING 1885 HI-WALL BPCR TO START WITH...
i also decided to try everything ive read about producing the most accurate loads for this rifle in this regard... i received unto myself 100 new Winchester cases which i carefully length trimmed and weighed...keeping only the cases that weighed between 265.5 gr and 266.5 gr's. ill use the others to be sighters. i then carefully ground a mark between the w;s with my small grinder on the rim for indexing needs. i then full length sized them using the index mark in relationship to the die. also used the index for belling the mouth and also priming the cases.
now to the question...what is the best loads for fire forming these new cases to the chamber? can i use the smokless and jacketed for this or should i stick with bp and my 520 gr boolits? full strength loads or lite loads? im going to use the index for cambering as well and i have the book started for all these things im doing as well as the outcome for every step along the way.
maybe i can break into some satisfying groups finally with the basics started with in an orderly fashion.
read a post from montana charlie about hunting for a lost pocket knife and as i chuckled about the analogy...i had to look inward and laugh out loud for i recognize his storie in myself. thanks all for the patients and long suffering with this rambunctious kid at heart.
8-)..;-)...:grin:...;-)