Catshooter's .45 310 gr Keith group buy starts HERE!

[Catshooter]

Here it is, the big one. This is a close copy of the NEI .45-310, with our additions of the Keith criteria. Should weigh in the neiborhood of 310 grains, depending. Should drop at about .455, depending. 45 2.1 will post a picture shortly for y'all do drool on.

Cost is $60 for a six gang Lee custom mould. This includes a mould for our on board designer, without whom this would not have been the sucessful run of moulds that it has been. I ship USPS Priority, but with no insurence. Out of country? PM me for how to pay.

Now I am running more than one buy, so it's very important you tell me what buy you want in on and and your screen name.

PM me for my address. I take checks or money orders. I'll hold the buy open for a month, (unless we need more time) then issue last call, then close it. After I mail the moulds, I'll wait a month and then offer up any extras for sale, if any. I can't control the USPS, so if it doesn't arrive there's not alot I can do. Their insurence system just isn't worth messing with, but if someone wants it, let me know and I'll let you know how much.


Should be fun, and a hell of a mould.


Cat

Here's the checks received list:

91106 X 2
57317
49862

Gentlemen, if you don't tell either your screen name or what group buy you want in on I'll send your check back. I've got to many going on to guess!

[GLL]

Cat:

I will take two ! :)

Check will go out on Tuesday along with another to Cayoot for his GB.

Thanks again to you and 45 2.1 for these Keith moulds !

Jerry

91106

[Catshooter]

Cat:

I will take two !

Now there's a surprise! I kinda thought you might!

You're welcome.


Cat

[Lloyd Smale]

Ill take one

[GLL]

Cat:

Those two moulds represent two month's worth of aluminum can scrounging !

I am already saving up for a couple of the 452423 GBs. I hit the jackpot with $3.50 worth of beer cans from the local park last night ! I will be ready for another GB pair by February ! :) :)

Jerry

[PatMarlin]

Throw down one for me.. [smilie=1:

[Cayoot]

Hey Catshooter....I'll take one for sure, two if I can afford it! (I JUST GOTTA AFFORD 2!!!!!!)

Thanks Buddy, for another great sounding mould!

[45 2.1]

Something for ya to look at:

[GLL]

45 2.1:

VERY PRETTY ! :) :)

Jerry

[rkolling]

45 2.1:

How is your design different from the NEI 451-310? It looks like you might have a little deeper grease groove, but my eyes might be deceiving me. Also, what are the changes supposed to alter or improve? Thanks in advance for your reply!

Ray

[Catshooter]

Yes, a bit deeper lube groove, your eyes are not deceiving you. Good call. I sent a sample from my NEI to 45 2.1. It is the first mould cut for that design by Walt. Is it just lovely, or what. Shoots wonderfully and at 900 fps it's soft yet hits, well, 'bout like you'd think.


Cat

[fivegunner]

:drinks: I`ll take one , would love to have it come out at .453. in wheel wieghts, but that's the chance I`ll take. thank you catshooter!:Fire:

[Cayoot]

This looks great Catshooter! Great job 45 2.1! Between the other Keith gbs that we've had in the past, my own 285 grainer, Cat's other 210 grainer and this one, I'll have a full collection of .45 boolits!

210 grn, 452423 (250 grn), 452424 (265 grn), My own gb (285 grn) and this new one (310 grn).

I think that I may actually have all the bases covered for my .45 ACP, .45 Auto Rim and .45 Colts.

My life is finally going to be complete!:drinks:

[No_1]

I'm in. Do you want a PM with all our shipping info?

Robert

[45 2.1]

45 2.1: How is your design different from the NEI 451-310? The nose is slightly different, grease groove bevels are different as well as GG depth. It looks like you might have a little deeper grease groove, but my eyes might be deceiving me. They're not. Also, what are the changes supposed to alter or improve? Like the other Keith GBs, the changes have provided easier casting and better groups. That is the objective for most of these GBs. Thanks in advance for your reply! Ray

[MGySgt]

I am in for 2

Drew

[Poohgyrr]

I don't have one yet... :roll: But, what kind of velocity could I expect with this out of a 16" Lever in .45LC??

Or, one of those 4" S&Ws??

This could be a good field load out in the foothills & mountains...

[MGySgt]

I don't have one yet... :roll: But, what kind of velocity could I expect with this out of a 16" Lever in .45LC??

FWIW - Carefull with the overall Length. A friend of mine has a Henry 'Big Boy (Brass reeiver) he can't use the RCBS 45 270 SAA as the OAL is too long. It sticks between the bolt and the feed ramp - wayyy tooo Long.

He does get good accuracy out of the RCBS 45 230 CM with Unique, 231 and Trailboss.

Drew

[gregg]

Something for ya to look at:

Could you line up the GB's side by side of
452423
452424
And now the 310 gr.er. Just be nice to see the changes side by side.
If you cannot thats ok.
Yup I do have the last two Keith GB's.
Sorry seeing the side by side makes it easyer to spend my
money for the molds.

[Lloyd Smale]

checks in the mail.

[MGySgt]

Cat - I am going to drop out of this one. I really want one lighter for general shooting. Something in the 260 - 280 range.

Drew

[Catshooter]

gregg, that's something that 45 2.1 would have to do as he keeps the drawings. You might PM him.


Cat

[45 2.1]

For you greg

[PatMarlin]

I'm a little confused with all these.

What has actually been a group buy passed, and what's newly proposed?

I've got 2 of Cat's group .45 cal molds, one- I thought was the Keith 454424 and it casts out to about 252grns ACWW. The other's a .460 diameter. Part of the problem is we now have so many group buys. I think there needs to be a definite name or mold number. I don't even no what to lable the box.. :mrgreen:

[Catshooter]

Pat,

Being confused is only natural :)

The first you mention is our idea of the Keith 454424. The second is the .460 - 360 that is really designed as a light .45-70 boolit. It would probably work in a .45 Colt, it's only real question is overall length when loaded. There's yer name/number for yer boxes. :)

These other GBs are just different weight .45s. From the responses, you'd think the .45 is the national caliber of the US!

I've been watching both of my query threads to deceide which .45 to run, the 210 or the 283. But both responses are about the same! What's a mother to do?


Cat

[gregg]

For you greg

Thank You 45X2.1
Very Good . Tells alot

[GLL]

Cat:


I've been watching both of my query threads to decide which .45 to run, the 210 or the 283. But both responses are about the same! What's a mother to do?

BOTH ! :) :)

Jerry

[PatMarlin]

These other GBs are just different weight .45s. From the responses, you'd think the .45 is the national caliber of the US!

Cat

I thought it was.. :confused: :mrgreen:

OK- so on the block is:

210
283
310

When was a 452423 group buy done?

I'm going yo have to put my wife back to work to pay for these molds.. :roll:

[Cayoot]

OK- so on the block is:

210
283
310

When was a 452423 group buy done?

I'm going yo have to put my wife back to work to pay for these molds.. :roll:

Don't forget the Cayoot 280 grn!!!:drinks:

[old goat]

...Pat Marlin...The 452423 GB was done around April, '05


...old goat

[PatMarlin]

OK-

That's when I couldn't figure how to get my old handle off of the old forum transfered to the new Cast Boolits, so I didn't visit for a long time. Then I realised (DOH!) everyone had to re-register.. :mrgreen:

[gregg]

C I T M

Check In The Mail

[GLL]

Cat:

Check for two moulds went out yesterday ! :)

Jerry

[targetshootr]

Decisions, decisions. If this mold drops boolits at a difference of plus or minus one-tenth grain from the NEI mold I already have, it could be justified by the rules I laid down for myself which you can see are very stringent.

[Catshooter]

Well, ts, I'm pretty sure you're gonna have to follow the rules ! :)


Cat

[targetshootr]

:) And even if I broke the rule I bet the guy who made 'em up would look the other way. [smilie=1:

[Clyde]

I have to have one.

Clyde

[Nueces]

Sigh, me too....

[Aldeer]

Count me in. Will send check tomorrow.

Aldeer

[Dr. A]

Check sent!:drinks:

[Catshooter]

The latest checks received:

91106 X 2
57317
49862
64093
49331
78620
35803
67401
63010
45327
32073
34472
49885
76578


Cat

[264 Win Mag]

I'll take one please. Check will go out in the AM.

[Camel 23]

I'll take one.

[Catshooter]

If you guys need my address click on my name and send me a private message.


Cat

[MDF99]

Payment sent.

45327

[shooting on a shoestring]

Looks good, I'm in too. I'll find how to send you a check.

[No_1]

Cat,
Payment from 32073 goes out in the morning mail.

Thanks for all the hard work,
Robert

[Camel 23]

Check went out today.

[ron brooks]

Just got back from mailing off my MO.

Ron

[frontstuffers]

Hello. Just wondering if this is still open to orders or if it has been closed and the order sent in? I am intersted in getting one.

Thanks from a "newbie".

[Catshooter]

Welcome to the forum front.

This buy is still open. Click on my name to PM me for my address.


Cat

[PatMarlin]

Will you buy me one Cat?

My birthday is coming.. :mrgreen: :drinks:

[frontstuffers]

Had a question about this mould. How is the meplat on this? I am currently using the Lee C452-300-RF and like the size of the nose. Some of the .452/.454's seem to have a small "nose" on them, that's why I normally shoot the Lee above and a Lyman 454424. Just wondering how this one compares?

Thanks.

[Catshooter]

Latest checks to arrive:

91106 X 2
57317
49862
64093
49331
78620
35803
67401
63010
45327
32073
34472
49885
76578
49885
66215
22554
79084
24354

Keep 'em coming boys.


Cat

[Catshooter]

frontstuffers,

The meplat should be about .325 - which is pretty big in my book. Not as large as some though.


Cat

[madcaster]

I think that I will gopher this deal,my my money is going out today,
Jeff.

[45 2.1]

The meplats on the 454424, the 283 gr. and the 310 gr. are all 0.320".

[frontstuffers]

Thanks for the info. Please add me to the list.

[frontstuffers]

My apologies to the group, I am going to have to withdrawl from this purchase. Perhaps next time I will be able to follow through.

Catshooter, pm sent.

[madcaster]

Frontstuffers,
That will lead to the DT's with PB......
LOL,
Jeff.

[PatMarlin]

Frontstuffers,
That will lead to the DT's with PB......
LOL,
Jeff.

Yes I think we need to start "Boolit Molds Anonymous", or BMA for short.

I know 45 2.1 for one has got to be addicted.. :mrgreen:

[Ed K]

I'd like to get in on this mold buy

Can send a money order out Monday 2/12

03046

PM sent

Ed

*Funds sent 2/12

[Catshooter]

Last call gentlemen. Buy will close next weekend.


Cat

[neerb]

M.O. sent for 1 from 46307 Thanks for running this neerb

[Catshooter]

Latest checks to arrive:

91106 X 2
57317
49862
64093
49331
78620
35803
67401
63010
45327
32073
34472
49885
76578
49885
66215
22554
79084
24354
03046
74429
44099
46307
95815
96041
93561


Cat

[Dutch4122]

Cat-

I just noticed the last call you posted on this one. I'd like to drop a check in the mail to you on Monday for one mold if that's ok.

[Catshooter]

Yep.


Cat

[Poohgyrr]

I don't have a .45 yet, but would like in on this mold. I'll PM you to confirm I can mail money today or Monday..

95815

Mailed Mon 02-19-07

[PatMarlin]

Gotta get in on this one John fo sho.. :drinks:

[Poohgyrr]

Yup Pat,

My LSWC loads work fine in the Levers, so I'm hoping this will work in a .45 Lever too.

[mick27]

hey cat,

sorry, been away, can i still get in on this mold?
mick27

[rvpilot76]

MO inbound!

Kevin

[Poohgyrr]

You guys know you are a bad influence on me... Buying molds for guns I don't have (yet)...

:drinks:

[mick27]

hey cat,

thanks for getting back to me.. count me in , i'll send check today!!
thanks again,
mick27

[Catshooter]

Gentlemen,

I know I posted last call, but as yet 45 2.1 hasn't been able to get the drawing here. The mail from him to me can be really weird, once it took 2 days, another time it was 10.

So, PM me (by clicking on my user name) for my address if you want in. No reason to close it until I can send in the order, and I hate keeping people out who want in.


Cat

[45 2.1]

Gentlemen,

I know I posted last call, but as yet 45 2.1 hasn't been able to get the drawing here. The mail from him to me can be really weird, once it took 2 days, another time it was 10.

So, PM me (by clicking on my user name) for my address if you want in. No reason to close it until I can send in the order, and I hate keeping people out who want in.


Cat

Drawings for three of the designs are between you and me. As you said, the mail is very inconsistent.

[RGRWJB]

I want one. PM sent.

[dubber123]

Catshooter, money orders in the mail, thanks for keeping it open.

[Catshooter]

You know 45 2.1, even though we hadn't talked I really felt that they were enroute. When they get here, I'll issue a new last call.


Cat

[Catshooter]

Gentlemen,

Here is latest list of money received. The drawings have now arrived, so this buy is now closed. I'll wait a week or so to let the straglers drift in, then it's off to the races!

91106 X 2
57317
49862
64093
49331
78620
35803
67401
63010
45327
32073
34472
49885
76578
49885
66215
22554
79084
24354
03046
74429
44099
46307
95815
96041
93561
95008
08560
83835
98374
05252
48415
42025

Let me tell you, the drawing is a thing of beauty.


Cat

[Poohgyrr]

I don't even no what to lable the box.. :mrgreen:


:-D I've been printing the first page or two and sticking it in the box. And the thread name seems to work as a label..

So far anyway.. Now I just have to get something to shoot this in...... Like that 16" .45LC Lever maybe..........

[Catshooter]

Poohgyrr,

You cannot resist the force. It is best allow the force to flow within you, and that means . . . well, you know what it means.


Cat

[Poohgyrr]

Cat,

[smilie=1: I have an old Saeco mold that works pretty good for the 1911. And I keep reading about loading ACPs with standard weight Keith .45LCs boolits...

And I still don't have a gun for this mold yet, but a 16" M92 sounds interesting.....

[smilie=1:

[Dutch4122]

Cat-

My check for one of these molds went out to you in todays mail. Sorry so late.

Hope it gets to you in time.

[Halfbreed]

Catshooter, PM also sent. hope it is not too late
John

[Halfbreed]

Catshooter, I will have a money order in the mail tomorrow morning.
zip 42025, Money order sent this morning2/27/07 thank you
John

[Bukufungi]

I'm in for one if its not to late! Thanks.

[Bukufungi]

Check went out for 1x....thanks Catshooter!

[rvpilot76]

How about an updated monies received list? Just wondering if you got my funds. Zip is 83835.

Kevin

[Catshooter]

Kevin,

The list is updated. If you would like me to check for you, send me all of your personal info. I don't file by zip code.



Cat

[Catshooter]

Gentlemen,

This buy is now closed. I'll wait a bit for the last checks to stragle in, then send the money in to Lee.


Cat

[Halfbreed]

Catshooter, thank you for your patience on this one, I am glad to have gotten in on it.
John

[rvpilot76]

Kevin,

The list is updated. If you would like me to check for you, send me all of your personal info. I don't file by zip code.



Cat

Sorry, I somehow missed post #80 on page 4. Thanks for everything. Looking forward to getting this guy.

Kevin

[Catshooter]

Got one more today -85239.


Cat

And what I believe is the last stragler - 42701


Cat

[madcaster]

Just a "FEW" more weeks ya'll.................................

[JerryHS]

I’m new to the site and I don’t know if you ever have extras, but if you find one of these molds homeless, I am anxious to adopt.

Jerry

[Poohgyrr]

Can you say THUMP!

[No_1]

Cat,

Is there an update on this one? I almost forgot I am in on it...

Robert
32073

[Catshooter]

No words no 1. The last ones took four months.


Cat

[No_1]

Thank you,

Robert


No words no 1. The last ones took four months.


Cat

[madcaster]

Foaming at the mouth for this'un....Good thing I like to drink plenty of water!

[No_1]

Any update Cat?

Robert


No words no 1. The last ones took four months.


Cat

[GLL]

I ran another Group Buy that was sent to LEE about the same time as this one.
If they arrive by the middle of July I will be amazed.

LEE does not keep us updated and calling them does not get any usable information.

PATIENCE is required. We are at their mercy ! :) :)


Jerry

[No_1]

Bump for visibility.

R.


Gentlemen,

Here is latest list of money received. The drawings have now arrived, so this buy is now closed. I'll wait a week or so to let the straglers drift in, then it's off to the races!

91106 X 2
57317
49862
64093
49331
78620
35803
67401
63010
45327
32073
34472
49885
76578
49885
66215
22554
79084
24354
03046
74429
44099
46307
95815
96041
93561
95008
08560
83835
98374
05252
48415
42025

Let me tell you, the drawing is a thing of beauty.


Cat

[Catshooter]

and I am offering up the extras for sale in the selling forum.


Cat

[Poohgyrr]

Cat,

You have a PM on my mold...