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750k2
05-19-2011, 04:29 PM
What type of results does everyone get running specials
out of their magnums?
Basically looking for groups sizes at distance.
Thanks[smilie=s:

Kraschenbirn
05-19-2011, 05:01 PM
The Lee 246 gr. RN, over 7.7 gr of Herco, easily holds "Minute of Clay Pigeon" at 25 yards from my 4 5/8" OM Vaquero. The load's a bit on the "warm" side to shoot in a Triple-Lock or second-gen SAA but my M24 likes it, too.

Bill

exile
05-19-2011, 05:39 PM
Don't know if this is what you are looking for, but I had fun the other day rolling cans at about 30 yards with my S & W .44 Mountain Gun loaded with Starline .44 Special brass, 200 grain RNFP boolit and a charge of Unique.

Deprimed, cleaned and polished my brass the other day, getting ready to do it all over again.

exile

44man
05-20-2011, 08:27 AM
Short brass can shoot mighty fine but for cutting edge accuracy, the longer brass is better. This is because the boolit needs to travel a little before entering the throat.
I see a slight decline in accuracy with .38's in the .357, special in the .44 mag, .480 in the .475, etc. Not earth shattering but it is there.
Most shooters will never see it.
I don't like having to clean the cylinders either because I HATE to clean guns! :veryconfu

fecmech
05-20-2011, 12:59 PM
With good loads in special brass my .44 mag SBH will easily hold the 10 ring on a 50 yd bulseye slowfire target.

sargenv
05-20-2011, 02:18 PM
I don't notice any accuracy discrepency when shooting 40's in a 10 mm or 38 short colt, 38 long colt, or 38 spl in a 357 magnum.. I would follow that it goes the same for 44 spl/magnum. The theory doesn't seem to hold water unless you are speaking in terms of small amts of accuracy.... most of us don't need minute of mosquito ;)

looseprojectile
05-20-2011, 03:39 PM
I use the long cases for the 44 special loads.
Unlike 44 man I love to clean guns.
My gun room, where my computer is set up is about eight by ten feet and my chair has wheels. I can reach any of my guns to clean them without getting up.
When things are slow I pick a gun that I think has seen the least cleaning and do it again.
I am apalled at what most people call a clean gun. Often I have had to clean a gun for someone that had problems to the point of not working. Most guns that malfunction can be fixed with a good and thorough cleaning.
Most of my 44 special loads in magnum cases are on the warm side.

Life is good

Wally
05-20-2011, 04:00 PM
44 Specials shoot great in my Ruger Superblackhawk--very accurate. I cut down neck split .44 Mag cases to the .44 Spl length. They will gunk up the cylinder chamber--I clean with an old bronze brush covered in 0000 steel wool spun on a drill---Chore Boy works too. I use WC the most in the .44 Special Lymans 426348 185 grain and Lee's 208...

Larry Gibson
05-20-2011, 04:10 PM
I've got about 700 .44 Special cases that have come my way over the years. I have 3 .44 Magnum revolvers and no .44 Specials. I to shoot the Specias in my .44 revolvers with expected 1 1/2" or minute of soda/beer can bottom at 25 yards. I cast the Lee TL430-240-SWC fairly soft mostly out of scrounged range lead with 2% tin added. They do drop at .431 so I size at .430 and lube with Javelina in a Lyman 450. I load them on the Dillon SDB using 5 gr Bullseye in the Special cases. I crimp in the front TL groove. This duplicates the velocity of factory .44 Special loads (246 RN lead bullet) of 750 fps in the 4" Anaconda and right at 800 fps in the 6" Hawes and Ruger 6 1/2" FTBH. Given this load is just a plinking/small game load to be used at 50 yards or less it works very well for me and those 700+ cases.

Larry Gibson

Mal Paso
05-20-2011, 11:00 PM
I redeveloped* a load of 14g of 2400 behind the 429421 in a special case while I was shooting a Redhawk. When I switched to a 6" Smith for target I found they weren't very accurate and quit shooting them. I reamed the throats on the S&W 629 and since I've gotten 2" groups offhand at 25 yards with those same Specials. IIRC the Redhawk has .4325 throats.
I like that load, it's just under 1000 fps in the 6", and recycling cases is a bonus.:Fire:

*IIRC it was Elmer Keiths's load first.