Bullseye in the 30/30

[brstevns]

Posting this for a cousin. Does anyone use Bullseye powder in the 30/30 with a 170 gr cast bullet for a reduced load? Would be fired in a 30/30 Marlin

[Ben]

brstevns


Try 7.5 grs. of B'Eye Let us know how it shoots.
Be super cautious about the possibility of a double charge.
What dia. are your bullets ?
Here is 8.3 grs. of B'Eye with my 30-06 :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/haysb/SAECO%20%20315%20Plain%20Base/021.jpg

[brstevns]

Bullets are .309 Thanks for the load I will pass it on. Do you know what FPS you are getting?

[358wcf]

As Ben points out above, caution is critical when using small charges of fast powder in rifle cases. You will, however, find that these light loads can be extremely accurate, even though they are fairly low velocity.
I use Unique powder in most of my light loads for rifles only because I have a lot of it and it is much bulkier than Bullseye. Accuracy might be comparable, but I don't shoot as well as our friend Ben-
Another powder I've had excellent luck with is TrailBoss. Very bulky, but it does a great job on very light loads in rifle cases.
Good luck to you. I might recommend you size those boolits a bit larger, perhaps .310 if you can. It will seal the bore a bit better-

Chuck
358wcf [smilie=1:[smilie=1:[smilie=1:

[Thumbcocker]

5-6 grains of any fast powder with a full weight boolit will supries you. Quiet zero recoil and accurate. Be careful they hit much harder than they sound. There is no need for a gas check either> I size to .311 and lube with lithibee. The women folk will go through a bunch of these loads at a settting,

[303Guy]

Is Bullseye fairly bulky? I wanted to something similar and chose a down under equivalent shotgun powder over an eqivalent to Unique because of its bulkiness - easier to detect double charges. My idea of that kind of load is that a double charge should not be unsafe and a triple charge should overflow the case. A graded dowel rod guage is a good way of checking for higher than normal charges. As it is, I shine a torch down the powdered cases to check for any anomalities - with any powder and charge.

Ben, pity about that flyer!:wink:

[lavenatti]

I've been using 2.5 grains of bullseye with a 165 grain boolit for a multi-year "groundhog in the garden" elimination program.

At about 75 feet I haven't missed a headshot yet. The round always penetrates both sides of the skull. As Thumbcocker pointed out - they aren't weak at the receiving end. You may not get a cloud of red mist but you will certainly perforate your critters nicely.

2 -2.5 grains of Rex 0 is giving me similiar results.

[nanuk]

As it is, I shine a torch down the powdered cases to check for any anomalities - with any powder and charge.



is that an Oxyacetylene torch? or just your basic propane torch?

[Moonie]

He is from New Zealand, I'm thinking "torch" means flashlight, but I've been wrong before...

[Ben]

That is great accuracy. What does a Saeco 315 boolit weigh?
I never wood a thunk it.


Bill,

The SAECO # 315 will weigh around 175 grs. as a solid.
My SAECO # 315 HP g/c's weigh 168 grs.

See this link for more information on the SAECO # 315 :

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=113325

[Ben]

Chuck
358wcf :

Accuracy might be comparable, but I don't shoot as well as our friend Ben-

Now tell the truth.....you know that you " can shoot circles " around me.
I'm just an old country boy from Alabama. I'm not in the league with some of
you guys.

Ben

[Ben]

303Guy

Ben, pity about that flyer!

There is always one, isn't there ? ?

[Ben]

Bullets are .309 Thanks for the load I will pass it on. Do you know what FPS you are getting?


In your 30/30, I'm guessing around 900 fps. Anyone else have an opinion on 7.5 grs. of B'Eye with a 170 cast from a 30/30 ?

[Wayne Smith]

303Guy

Ben, pity about that flyer!

There is always one, isn't there ? ?

Flier, or commenter, Ben?

[Tracy]

I've shot the GB fat plainbase '41 copy over 7.0 Bullseye. It shot well.
Red Dot is another good choice. Similar speed, but much bulkier than Bullseye. Cheaper, too.

[Baja_Traveler]

I'm going to have to give Bullseye a try for my silhouette chicken load. I've been using 8.2 grains Universal Clays under a 165gr plain base with excellent results, but using Bullseye will allow me to have one powder on the shelf for both .45 acp (4.6gr Bullseye is a proven accuracy load) and 30-30 lite loads...

[Thumbcocker]

Anyone else have an opinion on 7.5 grs. of B'Eye with a 170 cast from a 30/30 ?

1250 or so is my SWAG.

[Ben]

Wayne Smith :

Now that's a real good question........................

[brstevns]

Anyone else have an opinion on 7.5 grs. of B'Eye with a 170 cast from a 30/30 ?

1250 or so is my SWAG.

I am hoping my cousin gets this from his 30/30 . That would work quit well for his needs.

[izzyjoe]

i've never tried b.e. in a 30-30, but unique is very good.

[brstevns]

i've never tried b.e. in a 30-30, but unique is very good.

The Old tried and Tested 10gr Load?

[303Guy]

I have heard - never tried it or had confirmation - 4350 works well for cast in a 30-30. Full case of the stuff. Not the original question, I know, but just some information for later consideration maybe.

[brstevns]

I have heard - never tried it or had confirmation - 4350 works well for cast in a 30-30. Full case of the stuff. Not the original question, I know, but just some information for later consideration maybe.

4350 is one of my cousins favorite powders as is 4320 . I do know he has used 4350 with the J word's.

[303Guy]

I do know he has used 4350 with the J word's.Any idea how it performed for him? Apparently it does not produce the highest velocity but gives good accuracy with j-words in the 30-30. I like it for its for case without overload properties. It works well with lower load densities with wheat bran filler and cast without gas checks.

[brstevns]

Any idea how it performed for him? Apparently it does not produce the highest velocity but gives good accuracy with j-words in the 30-30. I like it for its for case without overload properties. It works well with lower load densities with wheat bran filler and cast without gas checks.

He is getting 1 1/2 inch groups at 100 yards, using water dropped Lyman 311291 size .309 from a Marlin 336 with a 18 inch barrel. same are better at times with the Hornady J word 170 gr.

[Jeffrey]

See this thread
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=94463
was 150 gr boolit but uses BI
Jeffrey

[gnoahhh]

I made a custom brass powder measure (similar to the old Pacific one charge rotary measure if you ever saw one) that I adjusted to throw 2.2gr. B'eye for use in my .32 Long. Three throws yield 6.6gr. that I hope works well for 150 gr. PB's in the .30-30's and .303 Savages.

[popper]

Lazer cast (.309/170/2.55/PB/LLA) with Unique works in my 30-30 336, but so far is not very accurate. Of course it was 102 deg and most of the spread was horizontal, so I'll keep working this load. Got to get some .311 to se if that makes an improvement.