Ebay find..Can't believe you guys missed this one..358395

[z4lunch]

Bought this Ideal 358395 on ebay last week.. Was missing the pin...made one up at work on the lathe. Rainy and cold here hopefully I can run some new boolits thru my Python and Smith 52-2 later in the week. From what i have read, this mold is some what rare?
Steve

[lesharris]

Use in Python ok.
Use in 52-2 Smith and Wesson,watch the seating depth.
Remember the bullet fits into the magazine.
My 52-1 and 52-2 will not accept any bullet that is not seated flush with the case,they also shoot hollow pointed wadcutters better than solid base wadcutters.
Good luck.

[z4lunch]

U,they also shoot hollow pointed wadcutters better than solid base wadcutters.
Good luck.

Really? I never tried a hollow pointed wadcutter. Why would they shoot better?
Do you have pics
Thanks
Steve

I have a home made 358495 that I hollow based. They have shot well in my 52-2 and shot just under 2" at 50 yds in my Python.
My solid base wadcutters start to yaw a little at 50yds in my 52-2

[Ben]

Those are very GENEROUS lube rings. Those may not be your friend.......?
I wonder how that bullet would shoot with a thin coat of LLA on it
rather than conventional lube ?

[z4lunch]

I have read that different kinds of lube and lubing more than one lube groove can affect accuracy? Why
Thanks Steve



Those are very GENEROUS lube rings. Those may not be your friend.......?
I wonder how that bullet would shoot with a thin coat of LLA on it
rather than conventional lube ?

[Ben]

I found this earlier post from Buckshot......
Thanks,
Ben
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..........If you're going to be using the WC boolit in a target type situation like 2.7 grs of Bullseye (or whatever flavor you favor) for the common 700 ish FPS type loads, I really don't believe one design has much to offer over another design. The Lee TL designs are intended to give you a good useable boolit requiring the least amount of fuss, bother, and time going from casting to shooting.

For bullseye shooting a softer lube seems to work best, and not too much of it. Too much lube can spoil accuracy and turn your pistol into a filthy mess. I really believe that for top notch results boolit quality takes precedence over any particular design. I have both of those Lee designs and in my K38 the TL design does well, and I have several hundred rounds loaded. On the other hand I kind of prefer the non-TL 148gr Lee merely because it has a crimp groove, and all things being equal in MY revolver it seems to me to be just a bit more accurate.

..............Buckshot

[Three-Fifty-Seven]

Looks more like a conical for blackpowder . . . 36 cal . . . just saying . . . :lol:

What did you end up paying for it? $34.25? I found it!

[z4lunch]

Looks more like a conical for blackpowder . . . 36 cal . . . just saying . . . :lol:

What did you end up paying for it? $34.25? I found it!

Yup... I had to have it after I read the article from casting fellows, which is a link from Toms H&G website. They have a 38 full wadcutter test. The 358395 shot very well in there test.
Steve

[MT Gianni]

Mine does well out of a K-38 and very soft lead. [dental]. I use a light load of Bullseye and only lube one groove.

[TCFAN]

I also have a 358395 HBWC mold. I lube the bottom groove only size at .358 for my Smith 14-6. It is one of the most accurate boolits that I shoot in that gun.....Terry

[cajun shooter]

I would just guess after many years at the ppc matches that the bullet would do it's best with only lube in one groove.

[plainsman456]

I have one already.As what was said just try lubing one groove and see if that will work for you.
The ones that I have cats and shot are accurate.

[z4lunch]

Can one of you guys post a pic and dimensions
Of your factory pin
Thanks
Steve

[jcw1970]

yea. i was the last one bidding against you. i don't have the equipment or knowledge to build a pin, so i couldn't see going any higher since i would have to have paid eric $40 for a new pin.

[z4lunch]

yea. i was the last one bidding against you. i don't have the equipment or knowledge to build a pin, so i couldn't see going any higher since i would have to have paid eric $40 for a new pin.

Been lookn for one for a long time:)

Still confused on the shape of the base pin. I found an old Ideal catalog where the pin was pointed like in some of the group buys. All the pins I could find pics of were the short little round bump in the bottom of the boolit.
Steve

[happy7]

I was thinking the demand for these had decreased since Mihec has sold so many of his version in a four cavity brass. There is a current group buy for them by the way. If you want in on it, pm me your zip code and paypal address.

[MT Gianni]

Can one of you guys post a pic and dimensions
Of your factory pin
Thanks
Steve

Mine has an internal pin reversible for a flat base. I am off to NV early tomorrow and can post a pic Tues.

[z4lunch]

Mine has an internal pin reversible for a flat base. I am off to NV early tomorrow and can post a pic Tues.

That would be great
Thanks
Steve

[fryboy]

mine has the "lil rounded bump" pin ( stock ) pin is .360 dia. bump is .250 dia (appox. .165 tall ) my lube grooves dont appear to be as generous , they kinda look like your bands only reversed ) with the supposed correct top punch i can only lube two grooves anyways yet like many have stated , unless i'm using a harder lube only one groove lubed gives the best results ( i havent tried tumble lubing them but it should work well on these )

[z4lunch]

Been lookn for one for a long time:)

Still confused on the shape of the base pin. I found an old Ideal catalog where the pin was pointed like in some of the group buys. All the pins I could find pics of were the short little round bump in the bottom of the boolit.
Steve

Here is the pic of the boolit I was talking about. This came out of a 50's Ideal handbook.
All the other pins i have seen have been with the button like others have described.
Steve

[TCFAN]

Ok here is a photo of the one that I have. You my be able to see the base pin and how far in the mold it goes..............Terry

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx200/TCintheOzarks/Cast%20Boolits/358395-HBWC.jpg

[lesharris]

Sorry for the wrong wording.
I meant to type hollow base wadcutter not hollow point wadcutter.
I know the hollowbase wadcutters shot better out of my S&W 52-1,and my son's 52-2.
I was told the hollow base expanded and filled the lands and grooves better.
Les.

[MT Gianni]

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s52/Giandm/th_083.jpg (http://s149.photobucket.com/albums/s52/Giandm/?action=view&current=083.jpg)

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s52/Giandm/th_084.jpg (http://s149.photobucket.com/albums/s52/Giandm/?action=view&current=084.jpg)

This is labelled 358395 and has never been tapped for a hold in screw on the bottom for a HB pin to lock into. I have to assume it is factory but the screw holding the pin in is allen headed.
My error, the pin is not reversible but HB only.

[Good Cheer]

And they make very nice close up HP's for air weight snubbies. Worked best for me sizing the base so it is smaller than the diameter of the cylinder throat and loading it seated out.

[z4lunch]

Spun the wheel and had Eric make me a pin. His work is world class.
Steve