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28lx
05-07-2011, 04:44 PM
I have a Marlin 1894C in 44 magnum. I have never loaded cast bullets before and this looks like the place for info. For powder all I have right now is H-110 and just bought some 300 grain and 240 grain HSM cast boolits they are non gas checked and supposed to be 19 on the hardness scale. The HSM website says to take a jacketed bullets data and reduce by 10%. Has anyone used H-110 with these boolits or boolits similar.Any help is much appreciated.

Ole
05-07-2011, 04:57 PM
Hi 28lx. Welcome to the forum!

Do you know how big the bullets you have are? I shoot 265 grain Ranch Dog bullets in my 1894 and I use 22.0 grains of H110.

My Ranch Dogs are sized @ .432" and shoot wonderfully without any traces of leading.

I also have shot the RCBS 250K Kieth bullet w/o gas check and 23.0 grains of H110. This bullet is also sized .432". It doesn't have a gas check and showed no signs of leading.

28lx
05-07-2011, 05:07 PM
Ole

I measured 3 and came up with .431 on all of them.

Ole
05-07-2011, 05:11 PM
Maybe someone on here has shot that bullet, but I would start around 22 grains on the 240 and 19 on the 300 if I were you.

Keep in mind H110 doesn't work well when you reduce the powder charge too much.

28lx
05-07-2011, 05:20 PM
Ole,

Thanks for the response. I have not been able to find much cast data with H-110.

Dale53
05-07-2011, 06:21 PM
28lx;
Hodgdon's data center has lots of pressure tested data for the .44 magnum and H110:

http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp

Be sure and look in both the rifle AND the pistol sections.

Dale53

m1g
05-07-2011, 06:38 PM
I have a Marlin 1894 stainless 44 mag. I had a box of 500 240 gr. SWC boolits, don't know the maker. They didn't have a shaft for gas checks but were beveled on the base and were already lubed. But I thought I'd just try some with Hornady gas checks crimped on the bevel because they have a sharp inward turned edge that bites in. Wasn't sure they would stay on but they did. I also used H-110 22.5 gr. They pack a real punch. Seem to work well in mine. Also shot 'em in my Ruger Super Blackhawk 7 1/2". A real handfull. Better hang on. I'll use them in my rifle but it's more than I really want in the hogleg.

m1g

6pt-sika
05-08-2011, 03:05 AM
With the Ranch Dog 432-265GC bullet I used 23 grains of H110 in 3 differnt Marlin 44 MAG's I had !

Two were 1894's and the other was a 336-44 !

And they ALL liked that load !

FWIW , with the Ranch Dog 432-300GC I used 21 grains of H110 !

Oh by the way I got those direct from RD himself .

28lx
05-08-2011, 07:47 AM
I'm gonna try to load a few today and check it out. Thanks for the replies.

izzyjoe
05-08-2011, 09:09 AM
i'll say that with 300gr. boolits, and 21gr. h-110, you'll give up testing before you want to. cause them little suckers will slam you!

6pt-sika
05-08-2011, 07:21 PM
i'll say that with 300gr. boolits, and 21gr. h-110, you'll give up testing before you want to. cause them little suckers will slam you!

If you think they have recoil you should come with me when I'm working up loads for my variouse 444's :drinks:

28lx
05-08-2011, 08:27 PM
Tried both today only at 40 yards but both loads almost shot one hole groups. I used 19 grains of H-110 with the 300's and 22 grains of H-110 with the 240's. Gonna up the charge a little and try at 100 yards next.

izzyjoe
05-09-2011, 09:56 PM
no thanks 6pt, if i want to get bet up i'll stand in front of a fast moving Mack!:lol:

calkar
05-10-2011, 12:26 AM
I sold my marlin for just that reason. It had an oversized bore and some crazy slow twist like 1:38. The only way it would shoot well was when I used a load that would rattle my teeth.

6pt-sika
05-10-2011, 06:31 AM
no thanks 6pt, if i want to get bet up i'll stand in front of a fast moving Mack!:lol:

Actually 3 years ago I had all my 444's shooting what I would call medium loads using XMP5744 .

But when I started messing with the 320 grain and heavier bullets I needed to boost the powder and harden the lead to make them shoot well !

So I went to H322 , RL7, XMR2015 and Varget to name a few .

Now with the 1-38 Micro Groove guns I have very good results with bullets up to 375 grains !

And in my newer 444 with the 1-20 twist I shoot 400 grainers with very amazing results !

calkar
05-11-2011, 11:55 PM
"Good" results is a relative term.

6pt-sika
05-12-2011, 06:55 AM
"Good" results is a relative term.

I don't feel the need to explain myself to you or anyone else for that matter !

So as you say "relative" or not I had results that suited me !

calkar
05-13-2011, 09:31 PM
someone's not taking there meds.

6pt-sika
05-14-2011, 03:07 AM
someone's not taking there meds.


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ironhead7544
05-14-2011, 09:44 AM
Check the makers listed loads. H110 works but keep it near max. IMR4227 works for a slightly reduced load.

robertbank
05-16-2011, 03:13 PM
I don't feel the need to explain myself to you or anyone else for that matter !

So as you say "relative" or not I had results that suited me !

I don't think that kind of response was necessary....do you. Lets all come down.

You didn't ask but I have had good luck with 4227 using Lyman 250 gr boolits. High end loads let you know you pulled the trigger in my Rossi. I am not sure I achieved an improvement in accuracy going hotter. Your experience maybe different with your gun.

Take Care

Bob

6pt-sika
05-17-2011, 08:46 AM
I don't think that kind of response was necessary....do you.



I wouldn't have written it if I didn't think there was a need for it at that moment !

calkar
06-01-2011, 11:49 PM
Robert, he doesnt get it.

NHlever
06-03-2011, 12:23 PM
My "go to" load in all my .44 Mags with H-110 is the Lyman 429244 GC over 23 grains of H-110. No it is not a full maximum load, but it sure gets the job done, and all my guns like it, both handgun, and rifle, Ruger, Winchester, and Marlin.