Anyone tried this M-96 Swede scout scope mount?

[Hang Fire]

I have a M-38, but IRRC, the rear sights are different on M-96 and the M-38. It lists for 30 bucks on Amazon.com


http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/21PBU573qnL._SL500_AA300_.jpg


http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:djsYPItT0kYJ:www.amazon.com/Mauser-Swedish-Small-Scout-Mount/dp/B002GCPKY6+Mauser+96+Swedish+Small+Ring+Scout+Moun t&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com

[Dutchman]

Your pictured mount is for a m/96.

Its a rip-off of the B-Square. As such it is minimally effective as a LER mount platform.

http://images110.fotki.com/v606/photos/2/28344/6806565/DSCF0004-vi.jpg
http://images57.fotki.com/v66/photos/2/28344/6806565/DSCF0011-vi.jpg

The best mount for the m/96 is the hardest mount to acquire :???:. It's just that the dude who makes them has a motivational deficit.

http://images54.fotki.com/v1591/photos/2/28344/1676633/DSCF1354yy-vi.jpg
http://images47.fotki.com/v1590/photos/2/28344/1676633/DSCF1357yy-vi.jpg

[scrapcan]

I have to say that once you get the dude making the mount, it is the very best mount for the application no doubt.

I would bet if someone had a spare sight ring from a m38 and enough other interested individuals to make the attention deficit go away, you too could have the best mount possible.

I am one who can vouch for the workmanship of the Dutchman.

Thanks Dutch you make a great mount!

[Larry Gibson]

The B Square mount puts the scope too high above the receiver to make for good "scout" useage. It does offer a base for a scope though for load testing or casual shooting. Note how much lower the Dutchman's mount is and is a verygood one if one wants to keep the rifle original and use with the handguard in place. For best use as a "scout" rifle though the objective needs to sit down as close as practical to the front reciever ring. This allows a consistent and quickly attained stock weld with the scope sight picture coming instantly to the eye.

Larry Gibson

[Hang Fire]

The B Square mount puts the scope too high above the receiver to make for good "scout" useage. It does offer a base for a scope though for load testing or casual shooting. Note how much lower the Dutchman's mount is and is a verygood one if one wants to keep the rifle original and use with the handguard in place. For best use as a "scout" rifle though the objective needs to sit down as close as practical to the front reciever ring. This allows a consistent and quickly attained stock weld with the scope sight picture coming instantly to the eye.

Larry Gibson


Good point about lower mount if milsurp to be left in original collectable condition, but a lace on higher cheek piece should work for higher mount. I note your Mauser has already been bubbarized, so a permanent riser cheek piece would make the higher/lower mount a moot point.

I too have a bubbarized Mauser K-98 scout (from an Israeli 7.62 rebarrel) and incorporated a riser cheek piece to allow use of higher mount, I based it somewhat on a Israeli Mauser 98 sniper rifle once saw with a large wooden cheek piece attached. But on mine, I changed configuration for scout concept, it is very functional, allowing for a fast repeatable cheek weld and quick acquisition of target.

[Larry Gibson]

Hang fire

yes you can add a cheek piece. I have 2 leather lace ons that work very well and there are also the stick on types. What I've found with those though is the ergonomics is many times not the best as the drop becomes to much for fast aqusition of the sight. That is a rudementary requirement for a "scout" type rifle. Rifles with too high mounts take time and position adjustment to properly use the long eye relief scope ala' the scout. If one just wants a scope mounted for more precision shooting the higher mounts work fine. If one wants a "scout" then a correct low mount is needed.

BTW; I prefer the older and more civilized term "sporterized" as to "bubbarized. I did the sporterizing myself and my name isn't "bubba". I can assure that the stock which came off this rifle provided no "collector" value whatsoever. It is a shooter plain and simple and has var more "value" to me as is than in it's very poor and refinished multiple times with way too much sanding used stock. Now as to collector value this Swede in the photo here falls into that category.

Larry Gibson

[Hang Fire]

Same for my Swede, it will not be altered in any way, by me.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/TANSTAAFL-2/Swede11.jpg

I like to think I did a pretty good job on my Mauser scout, but to 99% of purists, it is still bubbarized. I am a bubba, so take no offense, I just like doing the work myself, my way. If others want to pour a thou or more $ into a commercial scout, that is their business, but I am happy with my 90 $ one.

\http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/TANSTAAFL-2/Scout2.jpg

Heck, I am even happy with my 25 $ MN truck gun one, (shoots boolits great) and it was almost beyond bubba upped when I got it and left that way, except for scout scoping and a lace up CP.

http://hstrial-rchambers.homestead.com/SSC3_op_800x366.jpg

[Larry Gibson]

Hang fire

Hey, if they work for you that's what counts. My only point is if the mounts had been low putting the objective lens just over the front reciever ring then you wouldn't have needed the cheek pieces added. The higher cheek pieces also make using any back up iron sights difficult. Again, no criticism of your scouts, just pointing out some correct concepts for scouts.

However set up the scope sighting plane should come imediately to the eye when the rifle is quickly shouldered. The eye and the head should not have to search for the scope sight picture at all, it should just "be there". Photo shows M91 Argie with low scout mount, no additional cheek piece needed with milsurp stock.

Nice looking Swede you have also, not touching mine either.

Larry Gibson

[scrapcan]

I forgot to say in my first post that I had tried toe BS mount. I actually had to get two of them as the first was defective (under leaf plate holes were large then the screw threads). B-Square did send out a replacement under warranty.

I was so glad when Dutchman made his mounts available, it is a very well made mount. If I were you I would be him to make one for the m38. If you can get him to make them, the guy in the office next to me will buy one also.

[Hang Fire]

Larry Gibson

"The higher cheek pieces also make using any back up iron sights difficult."


In case LER scope mucked up, I made up a poor boy ghost ring aperture sight. It is not difficult to use the iron, I designed the cheek piece so if face is slid slightly forward, and down, the iron sights come right into play.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/TANSTAAFL-2/AA.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/TANSTAAFL-2/AA1.jpg

Incorporated front sight into forward end of mount, which with a 11.75" eye relief, gives a good sight picture. To lower the B-Square mount and make more solid, I slotted, reversed, and locked down at rear with a screw.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/TANSTAAFL-2/AA2.jpg

[Larry Gibson]

That's cool, looks pretty darn stout and useful. My eyes have a hard time with such short sight radii, enjoy them while you can.

Larry Gibson

[Hang Fire]

That's cool, looks pretty darn stout and useful. My eyes have a hard time with such short sight radii, enjoy them while you can.

Larry Gibson


The ghost ring is pretty forgiving for old guys such as myself with bad sight, that is the beauty of aperture sights, they make fuzzy things clear. I also tapped the ghost ring for different diameter apertures is so desired.

Quick test to see if an aperture sight will help. Hold pencil, forefinger, or such out around one foot or more, if blurred, hold other hand close to dominate eye with other eye closed, (works for me with both eyes open, other's mileage may vary) then with forefinger and thumb, form a circle down in to a small aperture. In most cases, the extended object should become sharper into focus and more clear. Can also with ballpoint, pencil, etc, punch small hole in to a piece of paper for better aperture effect.

[Hang Fire]

This is front sight with scope removed.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/TANSTAAFL-2/Front2.jpg

Sight picture through ghost ring, can see how clear front sight is through aperture .

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/TANSTAAFL-2/FRONT.jpg

[Larry Gibson]

Unfortuneately a ghost ring does nothing for me. I have to get the aperture so small it's sometimes hard to see through it in poor light. Or so much lens in front of the eye that a target at any distance is lost. Just the way it goes for me. I say if you can still use 'em do it, I loved shooting with aperture sights. Only way they work for me these days is with 24"+ barrels.

Larry Gibson