I am looking for a Squib load for 30-06

[justingrosche]

I need to find a load for a 309-100 gr PB in a 30-06. Most data I'm finding has 110 gr GC on the low end of the scale. I think I could use the 110 data and slow it down, but dont know which powder and /or how slow to go. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
I think I've read on the forum that some guys are using a small charge of Bullseye but I have not been able to find the thread.
Justin

[Nobade]

5-7 gr. Clays works for me with #3118. 15gr. bullet weight won't matter much.

[Larry Gibson]

Use well fire formed cases and neck size only. Try 3.2 gr of Bullseye with no filler or wad. Velocity will be 800 - 900 fps and accuracy will be very good depending on the quality of the cast bullets, the rifle and you. I shoot thousands of 90 gr PB bullets in the .308W, 7.62x54R, .303 Brit, 7.65 Argentine and the '06 with that load. Should be just fine with your 100 gr bullet.

BTW; I TL them in straight LLA and give them a light coat. then push through a .314 sizer for the .31s and then through a .311 sizer for the .30 cals. If yours drop at .309 -.310 you can run them through a .309/.310 or just shoot as is.

Larry Gibson

[wellfedirishman]

Justin, take a look at the Mfr data here:
http://www.hodgdon.com/PDF/Trail-Boss-data.pdf

I have had excellent accuracy with Trailboss in the 30-30 using plain base lead bullets. I tried it in the 30-06 also and was happy with the results. Both were with 150 grain lead bullets.

[justingrosche]

Thanks gentlemen.

[JIMinPHX]

Speer #13 lists 16-20 grains of SR4759 under a 100-grain Plinker for 1548-1960fps in a 30-06.

[Thumbcocker]

If you already cast for a full weight boolit try it without a gas check and 6-7 grains of red dot, 700x, BE, etc. You may want to designate one lot of brass for squibs and ream the flasholes. For uberlight plinkers try a size "0" buckshot rolled in LLA over three grains of any of the above powders,

[nanuk]

Thumbcocker

is reaming the flashhole to help with the shoulder setback?

[Rocky Raab]

I concur with the recommendations above, except that I'd substitute TiteGroup powder for the Bullseye because of TG's known position insensitivity. Use the suggested charge weights above.

I'd start at about five grains and work DOWN until you hit the velocity you seek, but no lower than about 700 fps or you'll risk sticking one in the bore.

[Larry Gibson]

Thumbcocker

is reaming the flashhole to help with the shoulder setback?

Yes. Use a #30 - #28 drill. Do not use larger than a #28.

Larry Gibson

[CWME]

I'd substitute TiteGroup powder for the Bullseye because of TG's known position insensitivity.

A new tidbit of info I didn't know. I have a partial can with no home so I have to try the Titegroup now:hijack:

Thanks for posting that Rocky!

[CWME]

Yes. Use a #30 - #28 drill. Do not use larger than a #28.

Larry Gibson

And another good tidbit of info! Good stuff Guys!:hijack:

[Alferd Packer]

Was good then and is still good info.
Just for a bump to the top.

[Tim357]

A hundred years ago i used a 115 gr boolit with 17 gr H110 in an 06. Loved it for gophers out of my 03 Springfield

[Beerd]

What all them other guys said, except I'd substitute the word "Plinker" for "Squib" ;)
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[Eddie2002]

I have had luck with a .311 100 grain cast boolit over 6 grains of BE or any fast pistol powder. Most times the load is position sensitive so point the fire arm into the air before firing. The lighter the powder charge the more position sensitive it becomes. A small pinch of cotton will keep the powder at the base of the case but it's not really needed. Neck tension is important for consistency and I can usually shoot a 2 inch group at 50 yds with my 30-06 and 7.7 Japs. It's a fun load to shoot with no recoil and minimum cost. I've tried up to a 115 grain boolit with the same powder charge with the same results.

[Petander]

Thumbcocker

is reaming the flashhole to help with the shoulder setback?

Does this mean de-burring the inside of the brass around the hole, enlargening the pocket or making the flash hole larger?

A good magnum primer may help,too.

[Conditor22]

Does this mean de-burring the inside of the brass around the hole, enlargening the pocket or making the flash hole larger?

A good magnum primer may help,too.

Drilling out a flash hole would make it larger
"Yes. Use a #30 - #28 drill. Do not use larger than a #28.

Larry Gibson"

[Rich/WIS]

I use a #29 drill and 5 grs of BE, works with any weight of cast bullet. Have shot PB, unchecked and checked bullets like this and all produce excellent accuracy at 15 yards and held out pretty well to about 50 yards with the heavier bullets doing best at that range.

[1Hawkeye]

I'm old school but I use 9.5grs of unique with a lyman 311359 with good results.

[Petander]

Drilling out a flash hole would make it larger
"Yes. Use a #30 - #28 drill. Do not use larger than a #28.

Larry Gibson"

Okay,thanks.

Opening them up has been sort of standard practise for 308 subsonic loads over here.

I do not remember my 30-06 loads, don't have one any more. But with 300 WM I got reasonable results with CCI 215 / 3N37 without opening the flash holes. Like ten shots in 2" @ 75 m. At night with a scope mounted flashlight. :)

[charlie b]

Lots of data here, just not light bullets. I just load my standard bullets (165XCB's) at subsonic levels. Have been using Blue Dot.

http://www.gmdr.com/lever/lowveldata.htm

[Petander]

I need to find a load for a 309-100 gr PB in a 30-06. Most data I'm finding has 110 gr GC on the low end of the scale. I think I could use the 110 data and slow it down, but dont know which powder and /or how slow to go. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
I think I've read on the forum that some guys are using a small charge of Bullseye but I have not been able to find the thread.
Justin

Did you read the sticky here?

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?152431-Recipes-for-quot-Mouse-Fart-quot-Loads-in-30-06

[Alferd Packer]

A squib load has always been a lite load for pistol or rifle.
A bib load is one with a bullet stuck in the bore. Bullet in Bore.
New guys have been calling a Squib load a bullet in bore by mistake.
Oldtimers hearing this figure it's just somebody that don't know the difference.
They always say "you'll blow up your gun with those lite loads, "
because they don't know the difference between a squib and a bib load.
The old guys know what I'm talking about.

[John Boy]

Pick one .... 30-06 reloads. ... http://www.reloadammo.com/3006load.htm

[charlie b]

I always considered a squib load to be one where there was no powder, powder did not ignite or barely burned. Squibs might result in a bullet in the bore or may not depending on the conditions. I learned the term from father-in-law. If he was still alive I am sure he'd be considered an old guy :) Not sure if I am an 'old guy' or not since I'm only 67 :)

Not a comprehensive source, but, Wiki says:
"A squib load, also known as a squib round, pop and no kick, or just a squib, is a firearm malfunction in which a fired projectile does not have enough force behind it to exit the barrel, and thus becomes stuck."