What cartridge did the Seals use for obl

[Von Gruff]

Okay guys, what cartridge and platforn did the Seals use when they capped obl.

Have seen guesses on another forum of the 6.8 and - or a double tap from a 1911

I have heard on the radio that he was shot twice in the head but details are not forthcoming.

Von Gruff.

[nicholst55]

Hard to say; the SEALs have all the cool toys. When I stored some of their gear in Kuwait back in the late '90s, a SEAL platoon carried around enough guns to arm an infantry company! They select the proper tool or tools for the mission at hand, but one thing I never did see them carrying was a 1911. They had Sig P226s and HK MK 23 pistols, but I never saw any 1911s. That doesn't mean that they didn't have any, just that I never saw them.

[Arisaka99]

Probably a MK23 or a sig. Could be a 223 also.

[Von Gruff]

This was posted on anoither site as a possibility.

Heckler & Koch MP5 close quarters specialty ! ?.




http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv39/VonGruff/HecklerKochMP5bypakistanidefence15.jpg

Von Gruff.

[rockrat]

I would guess an MP5 as above, but in the suppressed persuasion, the MP5SD

[shotman]

hey they asked him to give up ??? Now if you belive that I have 200 ac of beach front in WV for sale
2 shots to head??? want to see pic ? bet head was hamburger

[bowfin]

.71 caliber.

It takes a real expert to double tap a guy in the face with a Brown Bess musket.

[Von Gruff]

.71 caliber.

It takes a real expert to double tap a guy in the face with a Brown Bess musket.

Not with the butt, it don't.

Von Gruff.

[bruce drake]

does it really matter? He's dead. enuff said.

Bruce

[Hardcast416taylor]

Why not ask another intelligent question, like where was the bullets made or who made them on what work shift on which machine. How about was the seal left handed or right? Who cares! The raggy is dead so let`s move on to getting gas prices lower now.Robert

[HammerMTB]

I know!
The one that fit the chamber of the gun used.....
It seemed to get the job done.

[WildmanJack]

A VERY well placed one!!!

[redneckdan]

Doesn't really matter. But then again it is kinda intriguing to wonder. Could have been darn near anything. My guess is going to be a socom type variant of the m-14.

[MtGun44]

I asked a former spec ops officer today. He didn't know but said that MP5 (9mm) supressed
was very popular 5-6 yrs ago, he thought that they may be using M4 suppressed or 416s
suppressed. 416 is basically a piston AR, and everybody knows what the M4 is - of course
both in 5.56.

BUT the SEALs can pretty much shoot whatever suits their fancy. I'm sure it will be known
eventually.

Personally, I am treating ALL info release by the fools in charge as a fairy tale. I will eventually
get the facts from some back channel sources that can be trusted.

Bill

[Four Fingers of Death]

I'm guessing 5.56 in the rifles for the support team/out riders/ back up guys who were there to do the heavy lifting if there was big resistance and 9mm in the pistols and sub guns for the assault / hair on the wall team.

Arms, I'm guessing Current version of the black rifle, M4 or whatever you guys call it, sub guns, H&K Mp5s, probably supressed, and all carrying SIG or H&K Pistols.

If I was in charge, they'd all be the same calibre and they'd be 5.56 and 9mm for the handguns. Long way from home, if re-sup was needed you don't need to start adding unnecessary variables into the equation. Keep it simple, and your southern guys say, get er' done.

Good job anyway.

[82nd airborne]

does it really matter? He's dead. enuff said.

Bruce

Seriously. Also assuming it is a handgun is silly. Handguns are last ditch weapons, not something you use on an offensive raid. MP5's dont get used a whole lot now that AR's can run 10"bbls. One of the most common seal weapons is the MK18, a 10" bbl m4 in 5.56, now being trialed in .300BLK.
Also, usually when the press/gov says seal team 6, they actually mean AOV, CAG, Seal team other than 6, CIA, MFR worked together on it.

[mstarling]

<chuckle> Have seen much interest and many references to this question. I think the best answer is that "the Seals have all the good toys!"

Most likely candidates are 5.56, 6.8, 9mm ... and just possibly .300 *** (Whisper, BLK, whatever).

Recent theory is that he was shot by two operators simultaneously. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy!!! And it means that two guys will quietly carry considerable pride to the end of their days.

[Four Fingers of Death]

Yep! Another shot(s) that was heard all round the world!

[Three44s]

The 72 Urchins don't care.

Three 44s

[Baron von Trollwhack]

Used a 44 M lever, .432 water dropped WW WFN, max load of 296. Got the idea here from forum pig hunting stories. BvT

[shooterg]

I kinda hoped they used ammo from IMI....

[GT27]

I'm almost positive they use DRT,saw on Discovery Channel where they(Seals) use it exclusively,and from what I heard from a secret service agent at my local gun range about the top L/S of his head missing!I would most definately say it was DRT...Evil, wicked ammo on target,and less collateral damage !!!

[thehouseproduct]

I read on somewhere it was the HK 416.

[7 Ring]

does it really matter? He's dead. enuff said.

Bruce

I agree 100%.

[thehouseproduct]

If all these guys care as little as they say, why click on the thread? :-)

[Four Fingers of Death]

Beats the scheeoooot outa me, I could never understand why people will click on a thread that they have absolutely no interest and if they did for some reason and didn't like it, why not just hit the back button.

[Love Life]

This just in!!

They used indian burns

[MtGun44]

DRT ?????????

Dead Right There is what that means, learned it from my cop buddies. Is this a type of
boolit or ammo too?

Bill

[7br]

In my feeble little mind, my planning would have been to kill him and drop him in a hole. The people who need to get the message would have gotten it. The upside is when we get accused of offing him, the people accusing us are confirming he is gone. We really weren't supposed to be there anyway. I would have used anything but US ammo. I am sure we have some stores of 7.62x39 from russia that would work.

[eagle27]

I thought it was common knowledge that for these sort of ops the Seals use the Uzi loaded with cast boolits lubed with pork fat, made in the good old USA under license to Israel.

[Four Fingers of Death]

In my feeble little mind, my planning would have been to kill him and drop him in a hole. The people who need to get the message would have gotten it.

Trouble is, someone would have eventually blabbed and there would have been a new shrine to immortalise him. I reckon they would have burleyed the water to make sure the fish got to him quick to remove all trace of him.

[Three44s]

He got the ultimate "water boarding" and 72 Urchins!

Good enough for me ............

Three 44s

[fatnhappy]

A cartridge that functioned as intended.

[jameslovesjammie]

hey they asked him to give up ??? Now if you belive that I have 200 ac of beach front in WV for sale
2 shots to head??? want to see pic ? bet head was hamburger

I find it amusing that the Arab world that we were so sensitive to protect from seeing the image of Dead Osama showed it on their TV the day after it happened.

[cajun shooter]

I have a friend who sent me the pic of him as soon as the next day. It was in no way a pic of him with the top of his head missing. I have seen many a dead person and will say that the pic did show frontal eye level entry wounds. I am sworn to not let it out and will follow my promise.

[Johnch]

DRT ?????????

Dead Right There is what that means, learned it from my cop buddies. Is this a type of
boolit or ammo too?

Bill

They offer both loaded ammo and just bullets

http://store.drtammo.com/

John

[MtGun44]

Thanks John. They are kinda shy. "Lead free frangible ammo", zero additional info, not too
hot on the marketing, it would seem.

Bill

[LAH]

I have a friend who sent me the pic of him as soon as the next day. It was in no way a pic of him with the top of his head missing. I have seen many a dead person and will say that the pic did show frontal eye level entry wounds. I am sworn to not let it out and will follow my promise.

There's no way I would ask you to back on your promise.

[Von Gruff]

I supose it would not be this one that was floating arround a while back.

http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv39/VonGruff/symant.jpg

Von Gruff.

[DCM]

Well my bet would be something subsonic as they were most likely using suppressors and wanted to keep it quiet for the op.

[DCM]

P.S. I hope they were hollow points filled with pork fat.

[Ed in North Texas]

I don't have info on the weapon used (though I'd guess MP-5SD as others have), but I do have a newly released photo of the team:

[bigted]

kinda like school girls looking at a fatal car crash...if there is info coming from team 6 then they have also turned into girls...and pictures??? what would uncle Mercinko say to that i wonder?