Schmidt Rueben 1911 Carbine

[Dragoon 45]

Went to a smaller gun show today. Saw what was marked as a Schmidt Rueben Model 1911 Carbine with a price tag of over $1500 and marked Collector's Item on the tag as well. I must be missing something here as everything I have read about them was they were very well made military rifles but nothing that was collectible. All the info I can find on them is that they are worth about $300-$450 depending on condition. Am I missing something here?

[twotoescharlie]

have never seen a 1911 carbine, have several of the rifles though.

TTC

[wrench]

1911 carbine is a great rifle, but not in that price range. As you said, typically $3-400.
I think that seller will have it for a long time.

[spqrzilla]

The 1911 carbine is better known as the K11. It would have to be sooper special to be worth that.

Of course, that assumes it was a K11. I saw an 1889 Schmidt-Rubin at a gun show marked "Model 31 Sniper" and priced at $2500 once ... needless to say I laughed at the clowns trying to pass it off as a K31 sniper.

[Freightman]

That is kind of like a friend came running to me and said there is a man with a M1 Garand Tanker and wants $1800 for it on trade for a Colt 1st generation SAA he had will you look at it? So I go look and right there on the rear of the receiver was 30 Cal M1 Century Arms, thought I was going to get beat up when I giggled so hard I almost chocked and said I wouldn't give him more than $200 and then only if he let me test it as it was a butcher job on whoever cut it down. Some of the folks at a gun show are looking to find a sucker and a easy buck.

[NuJudge]

The 96/11 and 1911 long rifles shoot really well, usually better than the K31 rifles. The 1911 Carbines shoot well, but usually not as well as the K31 rifles.

You can find descriptions of all of the Swiss Straight Pulls here:
http://www.swissrifles.com/sr/detail/

[waksupi]

Heck, I have a K11 in .308, missing the front sight. You can have it for $450 shipped.

[Dragoon 45]

Thanks All. I figured this was another example of buyer beware. It always seems that any rifle over 30 years old is a collector's item if it is on a dealers table. But if you or I own it, it is not worth squat.

[jonk]

Wideners has them for $289 right now...

[doubs43]

Thanks All. I figured this was another example of buyer beware. It always seems that any rifle over 30 years old is a collector's item if it is on a dealers table. But if you or I own it, it is not worth squat.

Same old story. I once saw a gun on a dealer's table in FL that was tagged "mint" and it would have had trouble making NRA "good". Caveat Emptor is still good advice more than 2000 years on.

[SlimTim]

I've owned 6 or 7 of the 1911 carbines, more than I have owned K-31 carbines. Still have 2 or 3, and from what I recall, the specimens I sold went for about the stated range, perhaps closer to or a bit above 400.

Why would you deem them not collectible? Us po' folks gots to collect sumtin'. [smilie=s:

[kywoodwrkr]

http://www.swissrifles.com/sr/index.html
earlier carbines
http://www.swissrifles.com/1893/ Read about $7-800 for even these. 7750 total produced?
FWIW