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milprileb
04-30-2011, 07:30 AM
What on earth is going on or what is it I am failing to do here.

Bought some new muffin pans and alloy poured into them just hardens
and I got to beat them out and of course this messes up the muffin pan.

Some alloy won't come out at all.

Do I need to prep these pans with something?

WILCO
04-30-2011, 07:35 AM
What is the muffin pan made from??? Mine is steel and they fall right out. You could use a mold release spray.

milprileb
04-30-2011, 07:37 AM
Cheap dollar store metal ones.

I guess that answers the question as cast iron would mimic my Lyman ingot mold !

Charlie Two Tracks
04-30-2011, 07:45 AM
I have some cheap aluminum ones that work. They don't have teflon on them. I don't know why they are holding like that.

milprileb
04-30-2011, 07:47 AM
Maybe I need to wipe them down with Kroil ?

casterofboolits
04-30-2011, 07:52 AM
Be careful with cast iron muffin pans too. I broke one when the muffins stuck in the pan. My answer was to use a Dremmel tool to smooth out the cavities in my other two pans. The broken pan is still good for five ingots. I can make 27 muffins at a time which empties my plumber's pot. The ingots average 2.2/2.3 pounds.

WILCO
04-30-2011, 07:54 AM
Cheap dollar store metal ones.

That's your problem right there. Get a heavy steel one and they'll fall right out. [smilie=s:

milprileb
04-30-2011, 08:09 AM
I think I will get the cast iron corn stick pan for 11 bucks from walmart. Its availabe and iron
muffin pans are no where I can find them and never saw any heavy steel muffin pans.

44fanatic
04-30-2011, 08:49 AM
I picked up 4 of these at walmart...around $10 apiece. If I fill them up all the way up, ingots come out around 3.5lbs, one soup ladle comes out to about 1.5lbs.
http://i807.photobucket.com/albums/yy353/44fanatic/DSC02016.jpg

Stuck them on the proprane grill and then sit outside for a few days to rust. No problems with the ingots dropping out.

Ohio Rusty
04-30-2011, 09:27 AM
I have an aluminum mini muffin pan that the ingots fall right out when turned over. They come out around a half pound apiece. There is no coating on the pan, the walls have a good taper.
Ohio Rusty ><>

snuffy
04-30-2011, 09:41 AM
Cheap steel pans sometimes have a tin coating on them. What's lead and tin--- solder! You simply soldered those ingots to the steel.

If you want to continue to use those muffin tins, get yourself some of the frankfort arsenal drop-out mold release. A quick spray on the muffin pan will allow the ingots to fall right out!

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=763758

Matt3357
04-30-2011, 10:29 AM
I had the same issue my first smelt. I went to cast ingot molds and never looked back. I have 4 corncob molds and a lodge podge wedge shaped mold. Picked them all up at various yard sales. Prolly have $20 in them.

Matt

snuffy
04-30-2011, 11:59 AM
When I smelted a bunch of range lead, we had a mix of different ingot molds. This one was made from drops of channel by a local job-shop, a good friend of mine;

http://photos.imageevent.com/jptowns/arrow/websize/P3270144.JPG

Here's our assortment. The bigger muffin pan is steel, apparently no tin plating, ingots were 2.5 pounds, dropped free easily. Below that one is a teflon coated smaller muffin tin, made 2# ingots, they too dropped easily. The Lyman 1# ingot molds were usually filled to the top resulting in 5# ingots.

http://photos.imageevent.com/jptowns/arrow/websize/P4110011.JPG The lee's are a waste of time, who needs ½ pound ingots!?

cheese1566
04-30-2011, 12:06 PM
Cheap steel pans from thrift stores, garages sales, the pantry (but be sure to buy her new ones of you take hers!).

Sandblast and weather outside to get rusty.

casterofboolits
04-30-2011, 12:11 PM
I use the Lee ingot moulds for my alloy "sweetner" of 90% Lino and 10% tin. The half pound ingots are useful for this mix.

midnight
04-30-2011, 01:06 PM
Take that can of "dropout" you bought from Midway back when you didn't know what you were doing and spray those really cheap dollar store muffin pans. Ingots just fall out and you only have to spray them once every few years.

Bob

fredj338
04-30-2011, 02:13 PM
Even the cheap steel pans work, leave them out to get a coat of rust on them, no mold release needed. I prefer cheap iron/steel home made. If yo have access to a welder, a few $$ of scrap angle or channel iron makes good ingot molds.

manomet
04-30-2011, 02:23 PM
I had the same problem with 2 my wife bought me for christmas so I would stay away from hers, those suckers were welded in there. I bought 2 nice cast iron muffin trays (11 holes each) on Ebay for $2 or less and paid about $9 for shipping. You just have to wait on Ebay until the chefs aren't interested and they work like a charm

GLL
04-30-2011, 02:24 PM
These old cast iron pans make nice 2.5 pound "muffins".

The special orange "coating" makes them drop by just turning the pan upside down ! :)

These ingots happen to be 63/37 solder. (18 pounds of tin :) :) )

Jerry

http://www.fototime.com/FB02054454498D2/orig.jpg

garandsrus
04-30-2011, 02:33 PM
The muffin pans that work are all aluminum. One easy way to tell is that they are one piece of metal and the cup holes are stamped in. There is no seam at all where the cup and top meet. They are shiny silver.

John

wills
04-30-2011, 02:35 PM
What on earth is going on or what is it I am failing to do here.

Bought some new muffin pans and alloy poured into them just hardens
and I got to beat them out and of course this messes up the muffin pan.

Some alloy won't come out at all.

Do I need to prep these pans with something?

Rusty steel pans work better.

W.R.Buchanan
04-30-2011, 10:18 PM
I have been using a heavy duty aluminum muffin pan I bought at Smart and Final, or a restaurant supply for $10.

I then use a stainless steel ladel bought from the same source for $3.

One ladel full fills one cavity in the pan.approx 1.9-2.0lbs, .

Once the pan is full (12 holes) . flip it over and the pucks just fall out.

Thats 411 pucks laying there in one 5 hour day

Randy

Bomber
05-01-2011, 01:05 PM
I used Pam on my teflon coated muffin pans. The biscuits fell right out.