Anyone use VV N110 powder?

[Canuck Bob]

It gets great reviews for clean and consistent performance and available locally. Considering it for hi-vel loads in a 32-20.

[blaser.306]

May be, but any VV powders are Unobtanium here in Sask.

[btroj]

I will have to look but I don't know that I have used it for 32-20. I have found it works well in 357 and 44 mag. Closer to 2400 than anything else it seems. Good velocity and accuracy.

[Johnch]

Used to in the 44 mag

Along with 120 in the 357 Max

But localy no one carrys ANY VV powders any more

So I changed to powders that are avaible localy

John

[Doc Highwall]

I have only used it in my Savage muzzle loader and it was clean.

[midnight]

I use it in any cartridge that I would use 2400, 296, H110 or AA9. For me thats mostly the 44 Mag.

Bob

[Canuck Bob]

May be, but any VV powders are Unobtanium here in Sask.

Surprising our local Wholesale Sports has it on thier available board. It is not in thier catalogue or website?

[dromia]

It's very good as are all the VV powders. N110 and N120 are my go to powders for cast boolit loads.

I have now converted excluseivley to Vihtavuori powders due to the interrmittent availability and high price of US brand powders in the UK. Vihtavuori has delivered as good as or better than the previous powders in all calibres I've tried it in.

I'm currently handloading for around two dozen calibres.

[wiljen]

N110 and 120 are great powders in the 357 Max if you happen to have one.

[41wyom]

The .41 Mag., at least my Freedom Arms silhouette model, likes that powder also.

[jerry_from_ct]

I actually have a VV manual but have never seen it locally stocked, not sure if midway or grafs carries it.

It's starting to look like with all the company acquisitions, the only thing unique about a lot of powders is name brand recognition and your particular favorite flavor since they are all more or less the same powder except the name, I.E. WIN-IMR-Hodgdon.
As stated above H110 is W296 is N110 is 4227 so to speak.

Someone just recently ? bought out Ramshot, can't recall who at the moment.

I think it comes down to whether you like Ball, Tube or Flake and what's available at the time.

My .02 cents

[canyon-ghost]

I loaded 22 Hornet with N110, still have some. Nice, clean powder that really pushes a bullet. Good accuracy and velocity all the way around. They are a pretty good premium powder.

Ron

[Wayne S]

It gets great reviews for clean and consistent performance and available locally. Considering it for hi-vel loads in a 32-20.

When you say 32-20 is that a true 32-20 in a modern firearm, or is that a 30-20 ? A tThompson Center ?? with a .308 bore ??
I've tried in in my Contender 30-20, 22 Hornet, and 30 Reece [38 Spl. necked to 30 cal.] Burning rate in these is about the same as 2400.
I'm like Dromi, but in reverse, the $$$ compaired to US powders makes it a bit pricey, BUT I may try it again in the Hornet with the NOE .225-55 cast bullet

[Canuck Bob]

When you say 32-20 is that a true 32-20 in a modern firearm, or is that a 30-20 ? A tThompson Center ?? with a .308 bore ??
I've tried in in my Contender 30-20, 22 Hornet, and 30 Reece [38 Spl. necked to 30 cal.] Burning rate in these is about the same as 2400.
I'm like Dromi, but in reverse, the $$$ compaired to US powders makes it a bit pricey, BUT I may try it again in the Hornet with the NOE .225-55 cast bullet

It is a 32-20 in a Winoku 92 rifle. The rifle is brand new and I'm considering making it a cast only rifle. The VV powder is available to me and the reviews are good.

My plan is a medium PB bullet load 1400-1500 fps to get started then maybe a GC but the 32-20 is a real fun gun and I'm beginning to sway towards a nice load for a PB and forget the hotter loads.

[canyon-ghost]

In the 32-20, I found a plain base bullet to be accurate enough to shoot competitively (sounds like a stretch but it isn't). If your rifle doesn't require a roll crimp, it might be very accurate with a light taper crimp. 32-20 WCF is one of the best cast-only cartridges a guy can have. Have faith in it, it's an amazing round.

The cases are usually thin, that takes some getting used to. I just order Starline at 500 rounds and go. Lyman 311008 is pretty good, RCBS 32-098 works better in my contender. I thought about the different powders it will take, ended up with 2400. A 32 mag never gets close to shooting like a 32-20.

Ron

[Gunslinger]

In the past I have used N-110. The reason I didn't like it (you're all gonna laugh now) was because it has flame inhibitors in it, meaning that muzzle flash is severely reduced! And the muzzle flash is what I love about shooting .357. So I went to H-110 and 2400 which I like more.

The problem with ALL Vv powders is their availability. Vv also make ammo for NATO, meaning when NATO calls them up and say: "Hey, we would very much like a million rounds of 5.56 and a million 9mm rounds, thanks", then Vv drops everything and starts servicing NATO. I have been unable to find Vv powder for the last 8 months. Plus the price has gone up.... last time I bought it I had to pay $200 for a 4lbs jug.... that is expensive even at Danish rates.!

I have switched over to Noble Sport's Vectan powder. I like it very much, and I only pay $120 for 4lbs.

[Canuck Bob]

My first pound of powder for the rifle is IMR4227 of Australian supply. I found the n-110 but it was $50 per pound compared to $28.

Thr reports for this brand of powder are very favorable so i suspect a pound might be in order. There is a Canadian bulk supplier who sells cheaper when its in stock.

[ddixie884]

I just got a pound and am going to try it in .41spl, .44spl, and .44 Mag........

I'm also going to try it in .38spl for some lite skeeter loads; 10 to 11gr with a 158gr swc...........

[Petrol & Powder]

Vihtavuori powders are excellent powders but expensive in my neck of the woods.

If VV powder was the only powder available, I would be happy to use it but there are less expensive options available.

[ddixie884]

I've only started using VV powders recently and have tried N340, 3N37 and N110. So far I am impressed but it is spendy.........

[sargenv]

One place that Vitt powders are usually available at are stores or shops that cater to action shooters. They use N310 (45 acp, 40 S&W), N320 (9mm, 40 S&W), N330 (9mm, 40 S&W), N340 (9 major, 38 Super), N350 (38 Super/Supercomp), 3N37 (9 Major, 38 Super/supercomp) and 3N38 (38 Super/Supercomp). N110 doesn't move at all.

[Ozark mike]

I went around to find some vv powder for my 45-70s here and i got weird looks and laughed at. Was told since hodgedon was the main seller thats what they try to keep in stock. Was not in a very good mood the rest of that day. But like everything else in libby ya have to go to kalispell to get what ya want unless you want to fight with some idiot. Welcome to 2 weeks from everywhere

[ddixie884]

Powder is getting harder to find. Not as bad as primers, thankfully.....

[reddog81]

I’ve been using VV powders quite a bit lately. I picked up some N110 for .300 Blackout which was a newborn when this post was started. I haven’t tried that combo yet but have had good luck with N340 and subsonic bolt action loads. Also use N320 in 45 ACP target rounds and N340 in 9mm. All are very consistent, accurate and clean burning.

[sargenv]

I’ve been using VV powders quite a bit lately. I picked up some N110 for .300 Blackout which was a newborn when this post was started. I haven’t tried that combo yet but have had good luck with N340 and subsonic bolt action loads. Also use N320 in 45 ACP target rounds and N340 in 9mm. All are very consistent, accurate and clean burning.

Interesting. The common thing I hear around my club is that they like N310 with 45 acp and N320 for 9mm and 40 S&W. N340 is usually used for the higher velocity stuff as I mentioned above.

[slam45]

N110 is one of the best powders for 44's and 45 colt in strong guns... it can out preform H110 in a 44mag while being flexible enough to load lighter if desired... i always have some, but the loads i use it for are not ones i shoot every week... i buy all my components online as local places have no selection at all and my powder library has 4 or 5 times more selection than i could find in all stores selling powder within 100 miles of here...VV powders are accurate, meter well and burn clean.. but if you can't work up loads and adjust, lack of data is a problem... VV manuals are very limited and the big manual folks don't do much with the VV line.. another drawback is they cost too much for plinking loads, and are more suited to competition and serious target work...

[gpidaho]

VV N110 is a favorite of mine in the 357mag and 30 carbine. Gp

[Poygan]

I use other VV powders but the N110 is the only powder (and I use a lot of old powders) that has gone bad for me.

[Larry Gibson]

I'll be pressure/velocity test some N110 in the 44 SPL under the RCBS 44-250-KT on Monday or Tuesday, hopefully......

[Kosh75287]

OH, my...! :dung hits

[Scrumbag]

I'm tempted to try it in .44 mag for a lever rifle as more flexible than H110

[ddixie884]

I'm wondering about N110 pressure in .41spl......

[wilecoyote]

since the WW296 disappeared here, I only replaced it with VV.N110_
full loads in over 6" .357 and .44mag. N frames, redux+cast in .444 at .44mag levels.
it is not an option, but an obligatory choice because around here there is nothing else with the same burning rate that is decent and systematically available.

[Jim22]

I have been using N110 in my .357 MAX rifle with 200 grain cas boolits. I went to it after finding the spherical, double-based powders like W296 and H110 needed a small rifle magnum primer. I was getting vertical stringing. Inch to inch and a half wide groups 4-5 inches high. N110 is a cut powder and didn't require a magnum primer. I have not tried N120 but will when I find some. I saw VV N110 for sale today at either Mid south or Natchez. I'd put its burning rate at similar ti either Accurate #9 or LilGun.

[Jim22]

I'm wondering about N110 pressure in .41spl...... A .44 Special prolly needs a faster powder.

[wilecoyote]

A .44 Special prolly needs a faster powder.
yes, same as .38spl. vs. .357mag._ if not dangerous, 110 is plainly wasted in less-than-magnums_ also wasted in short barreled revolvers, imho_

[Meatpuppet]

I use VV-N110 in 357 Maximum 10"-16" barrels, 150gr - 310gr projectiles, super and subsonic (suppressed). Its like it was made for the Maxi. Super versitile and really clean.

Graf and Sons had a lot of VV powders in stock just a few weeks ago. I loaded up on over 40lbs of N320, 3N38, N110... I think im good for a while.

and probably on a watchlist...

[ddixie884]

Larry Gibson got results similar to 2400 in his HV .44spl tests with N110........

[Jim22]

It gets great reviews for clean and consistent performance and available locally. Considering it for hi-vel loads in a 32-20.

Yes. I have been working with VV N110 in my Marlin 1894C levergun in.357 Magnum. I have had trouble with the speherical powders like W296 and H-110 being hard to ignite. They seem to need small rifle magnum powders. N110 is a cut powder and seems to be easier to light. My Speer reloading handbook Number 14 lists a maximum charge of N110 as 15.0 grains ahead of a 158 grain jacketed boolit in a rifle like mine. The boolit I am using is Lee's 158 grain flat point plain bae. In my alloy, COWW, it comes out at 160 grains. One coat of Smoke's John Deere Green and unsized. I have gotten safely to 14.5 grains N110 with no pressure signs. Will try a bit more. I likee the accuracy with a peep sight and a 1/16" brass bead.

My burning rate chart lists N110 right next to Lil Gun.

Edit: I just loaded some of the same boolits with 15.0 grains of VV N110. Now I know why the 15.0 grain load is considered tops. The powder is compressed at that load with that boolit at an OAL of 1.58". Hard to get a crimp.
I'm gonna call this load max. Oh, and Speer lists this load as max velocity of all powders.

[Scrumbag]

Yes. I have been working with VV N110 in my Marlin 1894C levergun in.357 Magnum. I have had trouble with the speherical powders like W296 and H-110 being hard to ignite. They seem to need small rifle magnum powders. N110 is a cut powder and seems to be easier to light. My Speer reloading handbook Number 14 lists a maximum charge of N110 as 15.0 grains ahead of a 158 grain jacketed boolit in a rifle like mine. The boolit I am using is Lee's 158 grain flat point plain bae. In my alloy, COWW, it comes out at 160 grains. One coat of Smoke's John Deere Green and unsized. I have gotten safely to 14.5 grains N110 with no pressure signs. Will try a bit more. I likee the accuracy with a peep sight and a 1/16" brass bead.

My burning rate chart lists N110 right next to Lil Gun.

I hear you on the Spherical powders. Magnum pistol primers have never been that easy to find where I am and right now apparently unobtainium currently. Also H110 isn't that easy to get hold of along with many other US powders.

Scrummy

[Camba]

I use VV-N110 in 357 Maximum 10"-16" barrels, 150gr - 310gr projectiles, super and subsonic (suppressed). Its like it was made for the Maxi. Super versitile and really clean.

Graf and Sons had a lot of VV powders in stock just a few weeks ago. I loaded up on over 40lbs of N320, 3N38, N110... I think im good for a while.

and probably on a watchlist...

Hi Meatpuppet!
I have just bought the equivalent of 8 pound jug of vv n110 to get some cast and jacketed loads for my 357 maximum tc encore rifle. Do you have any good loads to share? As always, I start at the low end and work my way up in my loads and I will take the responsibility of my loads.
Thank you.
Camba

[JonB_in_Glencoe]

I worked up a load of VV N110 for 357mag 158gr SWC, I like it better than most other powders that I've used for near max loads for 357mag.

[Meatpuppet]

My two most accurate 16" barrel length "hunting" loads are below. These projectiles are swaged in BT Sniper's dies using an annealed 9mm case as the jacket. Ive never loaded/shot a commercial projectile through my 357 Maximums. All of my barrels are Match Grade Machine made, with long throats.

153gr JHP / VV N110 - 21gr / 2.10 oal / Chrono 2050fps - 1428 ft-lbs / Well under Max SAMMI Pressure
182gr JHP / VV N110 - 22gr / 2.20 oal / Chrono 1964fps - 1559 ft-lbs (Safe in my custom chambered Contender barrel) I would not exceed 19gr in a chamber that only allowed a 2.1 oal.

If you read some of the articles by Mike Belm on the 357 Max, he explains how the Contender can handle pressures up to 55,000 psi. According to Quickload, my 182gr load exceeds 40,000 psi, but below 50,000 psi. The primers look fine and breach opening and extraction are normal. I simply stopped when I found an accurate load with lots of energy remaining at 150 yards. Most of my 357 Max shooting is with 300gr subsonic loads. Interstingly, Quickload tends to be overly optomistic when estimating load data for my other calibers, but is pretty spot on with 357 Maximum.

[lead collector]

Plus one on V V powders. I have a friend that worships them, and got me to using a couple of them.
N110 and N105 both work great in my 44 Redhawk.
If the load data, and velocity from their web site is accurate, you can get some amazing velocity out of V V 105 in a 44 Mag.
One of those times when I wished I had a Chronograph to check the speed.
So far I think its the best 44 mad that I have ever used. I was a 2400 and a 4227 guy before, but the V V 105 works better for me.