Celebration is in order!!!

[Dale53]

Today, in a historic move, the Ohio Senate over rode the Governor's veto to HB 347. This bill, which will become law in about 90 days, allows true concealed carry in automobiles anywhere in the State. It includes State Pre-emption (no municipality can pass a law that reduces the State covered mandate). Up until now, any small municipality could decide that concealed carry was not legal within that municipality. State law triumphs!!

It has been a long road to a proper concealed carry law. In about 90 days we shall have it!

Dale53

[Dye]

Dale 53

That is good news but what about all the business that have signs on the front
doors no firearms allowed.

Be carefull Dye

[versifier]

That's easy. Avoid them and tell all your friends. No reason to do business with that sort. They don't want our business anyway. Besides, it might not be too healthy to hang around near there. Certain others will read signs like that as: "Please rob and shoot me because I'm a stupid drooling ignorant wimp and shouldn't live to reproduce." Sometimes it's better to just stand back and let the process of natural selection proceed as planned.

[CT Kid]

Dale53:

Keep us posted on the results of this legislation.

[Carteach0]

I have also seen the 'no firearms allowed' signs at times. They didn't last long when buisness fell off amid Ex-customers comments.

[Dale53]

CT Kid;
I keep you up-to-date. I can hardly contain myself. It has been a long road.

Dale53

[9.3X62AL]

EXCELLENT news for citizens/taxpayers, real bad news for violent crooks.

[NVcurmudgeon]

Dale 53

That is good news but what about all the business that have signs on the front
doors no firearms allowed.

Be carefull Dye

Ironic "no guns alllowed" sign, the first I have seen in Nevada, is at the entrance to the Boomtown casino, just over the line from California. Not only is there the no guns sign, but a cutesy liittle sticker saying "this is a gun-free zone." The irony is that I discovered the signs while trying to find out where the gun show that the casino allowed on their grounds was! Turned out the gun show was small, not very good, in a tent, and with people and tables jammed in like sardines in a can.

[carpetman]

NVcurmudgeon---Would you expect much of a gun show where no guns are allowed?

[carpetman]

Texas has a CCW law and I didn't get a permit. I did not want to be registered nor have to pay a tax for what should be my right. There are restrictions,places that sell drinks and not sure what others. I went to a casino here in Texas---(on Indian land ---to the victor goes the spoils,because they whupped us in war they can have casinos but non native Americans cant-another story). At the entrance they had a metal detector and determined I had a pocket knife and I wasn't allowed entrance with it. I might have whupped the whole tribe with it and got their casino closed down.

[waksupi]

A lawyer freind from Texas, says she carries without a permit. According to her, should she have trouble over entering a restricted building, she has less liability than a licensee, as she can claim ignorance of the restrictions, while a CCW is supposed to know!

[wills]

http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/administration/crime_records/chl/signposting.htm

[obssd1958]

You gotta like the fact that it's "Penal Code Section 30.06"[smilie=1:

Don

[waksupi]

http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/administration/crime_records/chl/signposting.htm
Looks like she may be right!

[wills]

Penalty looks about the same.

§ 30.06. TRESPASS BY HOLDER OF LICENSE TO CARRY CONCEALED
HANDGUN. (a) A license holder commits an offense if the license
holder:
(1) carries a handgun under the authority of
Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, on property of another
without effective consent; and
(2) received notice that:
(A) entry on the property by a license holder
with a concealed handgun was forbidden; or
(B) remaining on the property with a concealed
handgun was forbidden and failed to depart.
(b) For purposes of this section, a person receives notice
if the owner of the property or someone with apparent authority to
act for the owner provides notice to the person by oral or written
communication.
(c) In this section:
(1) "Entry" has the meaning assigned by Section
30.05(b).
(2) "License holder" has the meaning assigned by
Section 46.035(f).
(3) "Written communication" means:
(A) a card or other document on which is written
language identical to the following: "Pursuant to Section 30.06,
Penal Code (trespass by holder of license to carry a concealed
handgun), a person licensed under Subchapter H, Chapter 411,
Government Code (concealed handgun law), may not enter this
property with a concealed handgun"; or
(B) a sign posted on the property that:
(i) includes the language described by
Paragraph (A) in both English and Spanish;
(ii) appears in contrasting colors with
block letters at least one inch in height; and
(iii) is displayed in a conspicuous manner
clearly visible to the public.
(d) An offense under this section is a Class A misdemeanor.
(e) It is an exception to the application of this section
that the property on which the license holder carries a handgun is
owned or leased by a governmental entity and is not a premises or
other place on which the license holder is prohibited from carrying
the handgun under Section 46.03 or 46.035.



§ 46.02. UNLAWFUL CARRYING WEAPONS. (a) A person commits
an offense if he intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries on
or about his person a handgun, illegal knife, or club.
(b) Except as provided by Subsection (c), an offense under
this section is a Class A misdemeanor.
(c) An offense under this section is a felony of the third
degree if the offense is committed on any premises licensed or
issued a permit by this state for the sale of alcoholic beverages

[Johnch]

There are at least 2 citys that plan on sueing the state over the bill .
My guess it will take another year to see the law take efect

Johnch who has a CCW :Fire:

[Dale53]

I believe the law will take effect on schedule. I also believe some LOSERS will file lawsuits to over turn it. Hopefully, reason will prevail. Cincinnati and Columbus have "Assault Rifle" laws that were overturned by the passage of HB 347. They and Cleveland are already crying (note that these three cities have the highest murder rates in the state...).

There is overwhelming evidence from many, many states that a good concealed carry law seriously reduces violent crime. We recently had three cases in Cincinnati where people responded to violence that ended up with three bad guys dead (two guns and one pick up truck was used against the bad guys). The Prosecutor carefully examined the evidence and returned the verdict of justifiable self defense. What in the world needs to happen before some of these wild eyed liberals wake up?

I noticed with some satisfaction that a home invasion in a near by town had the 19 year old woman victim grab a gun while her husband was struggling with the bad guys and shot the two bad guys multiple times with one dead and one in serious condition. Looks like the "weaker" sex may not be weaker, you think?:mrgreen:

Dale53

[Dan in Wa]

It costs 60 bucks in Washington to get a CCW if you pass the background check.
Still can't take a gun into a bar.
But still crims still can I guess.