PDA

View Full Version : Help with Ammo ID



schutzen
04-09-2011, 05:40 PM
I am trying to identify several rounds of ammo I purchased in a box of parts at auction. These are blank cartridges in a 5 round clip similar to a Grand en bloc clip. The only difference is the cartridges are held in place at roughly a 30 degree upward angle.

Cartridge Dimensions: decimal / metric
Rim .617 / 15.66
Inner Rim around Primer .472 / 12.00
Height of raised Rim .038 / 1.00
Base .542 / 13.77
Shoulder Diameter .464 / 11.76
Shoulder Height 1.460 / 37.57
Neck (outside) .462 / 11.70
Neck (inside) .439 / 11.14
Case Length 2.283 / 58.00

The case is slightly tapered from the base to the shoulder.

The Head stamp is (right side) 18 (left side) 87
(Top) II (bottom) some type of crown
My guess is the 1887 is the year of manufacture, but beyond that I am at a loss.


The pasteboard box they are in is stamped: KL. SCHITTENHELMS SOHN

These appear to be very close to the .43 Spanish cartridge, but I am unaware of magazine/clip fed .43 Spanish Rifles.

Anyone have any ideas?

polara426sh
04-09-2011, 06:15 PM
11.15mm Werndl m/77?

Dutchman
04-15-2011, 02:39 AM
Austrian

http://images6.fotki.com/v78/photos/2/28344/157842/cart1-vi.jpg

Klaus Schittenhelms is in Wein (Vienna) Austria. It's the 11mm Mannlicher cartridge.

http://www.hungariae.com/Mann86.htm

He's using my picture on this page:).

Dutch