308 bullet from 9mm brass? [Archive]

BT Sniper

03-09-2011, 04:47 AM

nicholst55

03-09-2011, 08:56 AM

That's interesting! Wonder if you could do that one one of Tim's swaging presses?

MakeMineA10mm

03-09-2011, 09:29 AM

Good Lord, BT, GO TO BED!!! [smilie=l:

How about some pics of the air-operated press?!?!?!

sargenv

03-09-2011, 11:34 AM

Am quite interested in this...

BT Sniper

03-09-2011, 11:58 AM

These bullets where formed in an old SAS die. My upcomeing die design will have a bit longer nose. Yes I bet that press could size down the 9mm, might take a two or three draws. I have had great results from the 5.7x28 brass too and can go up to 180 grains in the 5.7 but this just shows anything is possible.

BT

sargenv

03-09-2011, 01:44 PM

You should be able to make up heavier bullets in 308 utilizing 38 super/supercomp brass... there are various alternate 38 supers out there.. though brass is usually harder to find.. I sometimes get small amounts of these oddballs..

mold maker

03-09-2011, 02:20 PM

Yep it can be done. Max weight is about 150-160 grain though. This case was sized in an experimental air operated press.

With that much solid brass in the base it would be an interesting bullet. The thin walls of the 9mm would open up drasticly at first then the solid base would just keep going I bet.

Got the bullets next to a standard 9mm case to show size before and after.

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/BTSniper/latestprojects006.jpg

Good shooting,

BT Sniper

Come on BT, get your fingers out of my pockets. I told ya, I already get mail addressed to "Bakers Poor House". At the rate I'm going, I'm gonna have to sell IT. You've already got me on the hook for the .40-.45, and now your dangling the 308 carrot.
Wooooo is me.

bohica2xo

03-09-2011, 02:30 PM

No need to go any heavier, or search for oddball brass.

the 147 grain NATO loading for 7.62x51 accounts for probably 85% of the 308w / 7.62 ammo fired in this country today. That is a perfect bullet for the FN/FAL, all of the AR-10 type clones & the M1a/ M14's out there.

That is a great bullet BT, I would not change a thing. Should be a great game bullet with a bonded core & that solid base. I bet a cross section looks a lot like the old Nosler Zipedo...

Nice work.

B.

scrapcan

03-09-2011, 02:37 PM

I agree with bohica2xo. No need to go heavier. You might be able to put a lead tip on it and get the 162gr that is so highly prized by many.

BwBrown

03-09-2011, 04:17 PM

The initial step is to draw the annealed 9mm brass down to something like 306 or 307.

That is the critical start - then those who have ch4d or Corbin or most any other Dies can take over seating cores and forming points.

Add a little more lead and get a pointed soft point. Cut off the rim and groove to shift center of gravity to the rear - variations limited as always only by our own imagination and creativity.

Can you start off making the draw-down dies available?
Bob

Ballard

03-09-2011, 05:41 PM

BT, what was the method of getting 9mm brass to under .308?

BT Sniper

03-09-2011, 05:53 PM

Two or three seperate draws in a good sizing die to get to under .308. I'm looking into material to put some sizing dies together.

Should be a pretty usfull set of sizing dies. Imagine all the possiblities with a 3 die sizing set.

First step- down to .350ish to use for 357 jackets.

Second step- take the .350 case down to .330ish to use for .338 jackets (doesn't have to be the 9mm case, it could be any case for the 338)

Last step to .300ish for the 308s. This last die could also be used to size the 5.7 case for the 180 grain bullets when needed. Me, I like the 180 grains for hunting out of my 300WM but you can bet I'll be trying some of these 160ish grian bullets from the 9mm jacket too. I'll get a cross cut to look at just how thick and solid that base is. Should be pretty impressive I bet.

With a good set of sizing dies any jacket from any piece of brass is possible.

Don't stop learning guys. Anything is possible.

Swage On!

BT Sniper

Boolseye

03-09-2011, 07:41 PM

Wow. I'm impressed.

Armorer

03-09-2011, 08:24 PM

Now I don't as of yet swage bullets, ( one addiction at a time please ) but I saw this thread and have to say that is super cool. As an avid .308 shooter I am way impressed. BT if at some point you want to make a bunch of those up, I would love to do some sort of swap so I could do some testing in my gas gun. Swage on fellas!!

Armorer

gvanzeggelaar

03-09-2011, 08:26 PM

Definitely post your press set up

redneck rampage

03-10-2011, 12:06 AM

I have been playing around with some 308 bullets myself. I have made some from 9mm but I like the 223 case better. I made a few draw dies first draw .350 second .300 then into the 308 die.

Fredx10sen

03-10-2011, 12:47 AM

nicholst55

03-10-2011, 04:54 AM

I'd think that .223 brass should be useful for .308 jackets; it's plentiful and relatively inexpensive - especially once it's retired from reloading... ;)

buck1

03-10-2011, 10:06 AM

WOW! Thats awsome!

coleman

03-11-2011, 12:35 AM

I am interested.... Looks great. I might be able to shoot 308 again with out breaking my pocket book....

nicholst55

03-11-2011, 09:23 AM

I read an old post by Dave Corbin on THR today, where he said that 9mm brass makes a fair, as opposed to good, .30 jacket. Of course, he's busy selling bullet jackets, and that may be a contributing factor to his opinion.

I'm still interested in pursuing it, if just to rule it out as a potential source of jackets.

sargenv

03-11-2011, 11:28 AM

For the 308 the 150 ish is just fine, but there are heavy 308's out there.. 300 magnum for one, that craves something a bit heavier generally... and then there are those that want a really heavy jacketed bullet for subsonic work.. ie 300/223 or 300 whisper.. it's all about options :)

Got-R-Did

03-11-2011, 04:35 PM

BT, how about going the opposite direction and use a .380 case to make varmint bullets for the .308. They might also be just perfect for the .30 Carbine.
Got-R-Did.

Tom R

03-11-2011, 08:25 PM

I would like a set of these dies when they become available please let me know.

BT Sniper

03-16-2011, 05:13 AM

:holysheep Check out the jacket of a 308 made from a 9mm reduced case!!! Should remind you of a speer trophy bonded jacket. Or a nolser BT or old solid base bullet if I remember correctly.

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/BTSniper/308s004.jpg
175 grain from 5.7 brass, 160 grain from 9mm and a 140 grain from 9mm

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/BTSniper/308s002.jpg
175 from 5.7, 160 from 9mm and 140 from 9mm

I like the 140 grain bullet. I think when I bond the core it should be one heck of a bullet!

I'll keep you all posted

BT Sniper

mroliver77

03-16-2011, 11:21 AM

BT this is where I want to be. Now make us some reducing dies to buy from you.
Please
Jay

Got-R-Did

03-16-2011, 03:15 PM

Maybe some 125's from .380 brass? Varmints beware!
Got-R-Did.

BT Sniper

03-16-2011, 03:21 PM

Maybe some 125's from .380 brass? Varmints beware!
Got-R-Did.

I actually did make a couple 125 grain from 380 :) worked good.

I'll work on some reducing dies too.

coleman

03-16-2011, 06:13 PM

BT, What will the price be? Can you give us a ballpark figure? Thanks Coleman

Got-R-Did

03-17-2011, 02:02 PM

Brian, If you (or anyone that purchases the die set) is interested in swaging about 500 of the .380 ACP based Varmint bullets in .308, I will supply the cases.
Cheers,
Got-R-Did.

BT Sniper

09-29-2011, 02:29 AM

Spent a couple days with the 308 dies. Made some very good 176 grain bullets from the 5.7 brass and have been shooting them a bit latly. Getting 1.25 MOA at the moment from a basic Steven's factory rifle out to two hundred yrds at the moment. I should be able to get better but it is a rather thin barrel and gets hot fast. Figured I would use the new bullets for upcoming deer season starting this weekend.

Well then I was looking threw my stuff and found the sized 9mm brass down to .302 and thought "WAIT A MINUTE! A UNPROVEN BULLET!" As it turns out a 9mm and the FN5.7x28 are nearly teh same weight at 60 grains so I simply used one of my 117 grain cores, the same I use with the 5.7 308 brass jackets and VOLIA! a 177 grain 30 cal bullet with a 9mm for a jacket. Looks pretty fricken sweet. Only problem I only have one day to see if they will shoot. We shall see!

Bullet pictured where made in my custom dies of course and bullets pictured are what they came out of die like. No additional lead point forming die was used or needed. I used wheel weight alloy for the cores. This harder alloy vs. pure soft lead is what allows me to eject a bullet with such a large lead tip without messing up the tip of the bullet.

Check it out!

177 grain 308 from 9mm loaded in a 300WM should get 3000 FPS no problem!
http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/BTSniper/P1060216.jpg

The process of sizing the 9mm down to a 30 cal jacket! 5.7x308 bullet on far right shown for compare.
http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/BTSniper/P1060214.jpg

The 9mmx308 bullet next to the 5.7x308 bullet all 176-177 grains!
http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/BTSniper/P1060215.jpg

Good shooting and swage on!

BT

DukeInFlorida

09-29-2011, 07:08 AM

Nice work, Brian.

Let me say GOOD LUCK to you, hunting. The faster you get some meat on ice, the faster you'll be back at work with dies.

I have been saving up 5.7 brass, and now have a full medium sized flat rate box full. That's a goodly amount of 308 bullets.

Good luck and be safe.

MIBULLETS

09-29-2011, 05:32 PM

BT it will be interesting to hear your results with this bullet. I have heard that a bullet with that much lead hanging out at higher speeds can cause the lead to slump some and maybe be less accurate. I have not seen this proven so who knows, they might shoot great!

BT Sniper

09-29-2011, 06:08 PM

I've read the same thing. I'm hoping that with wheel weight alloy it might hold it's shape a bit better.

I recall a member here made some bullets that looked similar to these in 338 cal with a long lead tip that shot really well.

If all goes well I should be off to range tomorrow to teest some of these out.

BT

MIBULLETS

09-30-2011, 07:37 PM

Yeah harder lead might stand up better. They sure look nice! Look forward to the results.

BT Sniper

09-30-2011, 08:22 PM

I got to shoot some of the 9mmx308 bullets I pictured above. Results were great as far as recovered bullet. Found it in the 5th milk jug of water. Nice mushroom and retained 97 grains.

Accuracy will need some work. I was getting a pattern rather then group. I may have to try them in my bull barrel 308 as my small thin barrel in my 300 WM steven was hard to keep cool.

I was able to shoot 1/2" with my steven 300WM and my 5.7x308 bullet though.

I'll get pics up when I get back.

I'm off hunting.

BT

Boolseye

10-01-2011, 03:42 PM

BT,
those look amazing. I'm impressed. The question that occurs to me (which nobody mentions, so I assume it's a non-issue) has to do with that much brass blasting down the rifling. Would rifling wear be increased somewhat, as compared with regular j-words?
-jp

jhalcott

10-02-2011, 12:35 PM

There is a situation called "comet effect", where exposed lead is burnt /blasted from the bullet tip at very high velocities. These exposed lead particles will continue on to the target and leave evidence of impacts. Usually they are microscopic in size, so small as to be nearly invisible to the naked eye. Scratches or bumping the nose can worsen the results on target. BUT, are these TARGET or hunting bullets?
It would SEEM that rotational forces will spray the particles in random fashion doesn't it?

mroliver77

10-02-2011, 05:56 PM

Mountain Prepper

10-03-2011, 05:05 AM

If I had to give an opinion based on experience I would say the boolits from the 9mm cases are too fragile for .300 mag. velocities. It might hold up fine in .308 and almost definitely in 30-30. I would like to see pics of the bullets from the water jugs.

There is not all that much unsupported lead out front but I would like to see a little less driving them in the neighborhood of 3000fps.

I would like to play with some. I need to spend some more time getting my shop finished and my lath skills refined.
Jay

So far all I have formed from 9mm cases have been excessively thick, and at the bases almost 4x the thickness of my J4 jackets I have in .308.

Without question the jackets are more than strong enough for .308 and 30-06, accuracy is an additional issue to deal with.

mroliver77

10-03-2011, 01:07 PM

Mountain Prepper

10-03-2011, 02:29 PM

Fragile being the ample lead nose. I would think it would slump upon launch if given too much shove. At 3000 fps you dont need much lead tip to upset a bullet!

I realized jacket would thicken up some but 4 times as thick.....Wow!
J

OK, now I get it...

And yes, the base is extra thick - check BT photos, it makes a thick funnel shape on the base.

BT Sniper

10-05-2011, 07:37 PM

Just got back from another sucessful deer hunt. Score another nice Oregon mule deer to the FN5.7x28 cased 176 grain 308 bullet.

I'll post all the details and pics later. I do have the recovered 308 bullet, from water jugs, made from a 9mm. It is pretty impressive yet only weights 97 grains recovered weight. Certainly a tough bullet the 9mm makes when sized to a 308.

More later.

BT

SSGOldfart

10-05-2011, 10:28 PM

Sweet boolits

How well did they shoot???

BT Sniper

10-06-2011, 03:48 PM

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/BTSniper/P1060216.jpg

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/BTSniper/P1060227.jpg

Recovered 176 grain 9mmx308 bullet on left. Weight was 97 grains. Recovered weight was nearly identical to those recoved from bullets made with FN5.7x28 brass in my experience. This recovered 9mmx308 bullet was shot into water filled milk jugs @ 3000FPS while the 5.7x308 bullet on the right was shot into wet newspaper. Maybe the results would be different with water jugs vs. wet newspaper? The 9mm did have a longer shank behind the top of the mushrommed bullet and a larger diameter mushroom. Obviously a credit to the thicker tapered walls of the 9mm 30 cal jacket vs. the 5.7 30 cal jacket.

The 9mm certainly make swhat looks to me to be a great hunting bullet. I imagin that with a bonded core the reuslts would be even better. The bonding process would also help to soften the jacket back up again after it was drawn so many times to form the 30 cal jacket. I did not anneal the jackets after the final form and I think it would have helped in teh bullet formation process and potential better accuracy. As far as accuracy goes................. well ......... I did not spend any time on load development, just the same 73 grain load of RL-22. I did not anneal the brass after I formed the jacket which lead to different final diameter bases to the bullets from 308-306 and that may have been a concern? The process of drawing down teh 9mm to .308 can have many factors and may lead to jackets with one side heavier then teh other. I did not let the small barrel of my Stevens 300WM cool while I shot for a group. There could be many factors. I'll experiment a bit more with them all and shoot the next group out of my larger barreled Savage 112 BVSS 300WM.

Here is my first group (if you can call it that) with the 176 grain 9mm at 3000 FPS. I suppose if you threw out the two fathest holes left and right the remaining group is about 3.5 inches. It will be somthign to work from. I will bet I can get the 9mmx308 bullet to shoot 1moa or better, just takes a bit of experimenting.

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/BTSniper/P1060222.jpg

Good shooting,

BT

BT Sniper

10-06-2011, 04:44 PM

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/BTSniper/th_P1060219.jpg (http://s636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/BTSniper/?action=view&current=P1060219.mp4)

Video of the 176 grain 9mmx308 bullet hitting the water filled millk jugs. Fun starts around 14 seconds into the video.

Bullet was recovered in 5th jug.

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/BTSniper/P1060227-1.jpg

BT

DukeInFlorida

10-06-2011, 06:47 PM

WOW! Brian, WOW!

Amazing, and ...........

WOW

cgtreml

10-08-2011, 08:24 AM

If you have these die sets figured out I would be very interested. Possibilities are endless. I have a boat load of 9mm brass.

Thanks
cgtreml

daschnoz

10-08-2011, 08:39 AM

Depending on the price, I would be interested too!

Swageocast

10-11-2011, 12:51 AM

Hey Brian,,,

Very NICE results.

Interesting how the cartridge case used as a jacket seems to lend itself well to controling expansion due to it's natural taper. :-)

BT Sniper

02-12-2012, 01:14 AM

I might have to revive this thread and attempt some of these 9mmx308 bullets again.

I found an good deal of fouling in the thin barrel of this 300WM as I was cleaning it last. I think it had more to do with a rough bore then the bullets I was shooting. I also noticed groups would open up considerably as the barrel got hot. Even with my proven accurate loads with the 5.7x308 bullets. I was able to get under 3/4" groups with the 5.7x308 bullets when fired from a cool barrel but when it got hot things spread out which makes me think I maybe able to do A LOT better with the bullets made from 9mm brass in my bull barrel 300 WM.

I still have yet to shoot bullet in say a 145-155 grain weight, which looks to just about ideal with jackets made from 9mm brass.

As I get more customers inquiring about making 30 cal jackets from 9mm brass I will reattempt to put together the necessary set of sizing dies needed for the task of using 9mm as 30 cal jackets.

I'll say this up frount about making 30 cal jackets from 9mm brass ........ it is a lot of work with a standard reloading press but with a bigger, more powerful press it may be just the thing for making very good jackets from cheap scrap 9mm brass.

BT

ghost2vp

02-14-2012, 06:45 AM

Brian,

Would you be able to do a boat tail on those bullets?

I am all for the 9mm - 30cal jackets. Love the spear tip soft point.

Availability? Time line?

Thanks,

Ghost.

BT Sniper

02-14-2012, 05:26 PM

That is a pretty solid base of brass. Trying to form a boat tail on them ........... well I say anythign is possible but it would generate an aweful lot of pressure IMOP on both yor press and the dies. With that much brass you could turn/machine down the base as well.

I'm hesatent to put HPs on bullets made from brass cases. From what I read a HP doesn't show it's advantages till beyond 300 yrds. If your trying to shoot bullets made from brass beyond 300 yrds ....... well I haven't tried yet :)

Sizing down 9mm to 30 cal takes a bit of work. A strong press will certainly be a benifit. To be done on a regular reloading press would probably take an additional anneal step between each reduction.

I have the neccessary components to put the needed sizing dies together.

First step is not to difficult or expensive. Simply push a 9mm case backwords threw a 9mm taper crimp die and that takes it down to .360. Then I recommend 3 additional reduction steps in sepperate dies with a reduction of about .020 per die.

garandsrus

02-16-2012, 11:25 PM

BT,

Would the dies basically be the same as Lee push through sizing dies? I would think so.

Great work, BTW...

John

plmitch

02-17-2012, 12:08 AM

I have never tried to do this before but after reading this post I want to learn.

badluther

02-19-2012, 11:34 AM

Nice work Brian!

DukeInFlorida

02-19-2012, 07:24 PM

It's about time you showed up.

Nice work Brian!

badluther

02-20-2012, 10:00 AM

It's about time you showed up.

I couldn't resist another BT Sniper creation...

BT Sniper

01-02-2013, 06:28 PM

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/BTSniper/P1080206.jpg

Finished up a set of draw dies for a customer. Looking at these previous posts and resulting group on target I assume I was getting some pretty good air pockets in the seated core of the finished bullet. Also had a lot of brass fouling in the rough Stevens 300wm barrel on that shoot by the time I shot that group. I redesigned the cores with a custom tapered core swage die to match the inside of the jacket and got much better results from formed bullets. With a 175 grain bullet the core will complete fill the 9mm case in the core seat step then make a nice lead tip point of course.

Some day soon I will shoot these again and see if I can get a decent group out of them.

BT

rasto

01-03-2013, 03:44 AM

I am looking forward to see the results.
The final bullet looks great at the first sight.

nhrifle

01-03-2013, 03:48 AM

Brian, beautiful work as always. You are definitely setting the standard for others to follow.

Bollocks

01-03-2013, 05:09 AM

FWIW,

I quit making .30 boolits from 9mm cases. Too much work for mediocre results.

Chrs from Holland,
BolloX

rasto

01-03-2013, 08:53 AM

Bollocks can you show us your final product together with your dies?
Thanks in advance.

historicfirearms

01-03-2013, 09:54 AM

There seems to be a lot of interest in these. If they work good maybe we could get a group buy on them. I'd be interested for sure.

AZ-JIM

01-13-2013, 02:27 PM

I for one am new to swaging, so new I havent tried it yet. But I am very happy to see that 308's can be made and I was wondering if a boat tail is possible?

az-jim

shangrila

01-13-2013, 09:01 PM

I'd like something like this for 300 blackout. Let me know if anyone has tried it.

BT Sniper

01-13-2013, 10:22 PM

Not recomended trying to form a boattail on the solid base of a 9mm-308. Best way to do it would be to turn it off on a lathe but........ lot of work.

Anything is possible.

BT

AZ-JIM

01-13-2013, 10:38 PM

Not recomended trying to form a boattail on the solid base of a 9mm-308. Best way to do it would be to turn it off on a lathe but........ lot of work.

Anything is possible.

BT

What about if you are drawing jackets from from copper sheet or brass for that matter and introduced the BT in one of the final forming stages?

Lizard333

01-14-2013, 07:43 AM

I for one am new to swaging, so new I havent tried it yet. But I am very happy to see that 308's can be made and I was wondering if a boat tail is possible?

az-jim

To be honest I would stick with commercial jackets if your putting a boat tail on a bullet. Using brass the base the is considerably more enforced.

A flat based boolit will do really well out past a couple hundred yards. Only then does the advantages of the boat tail come into effect.

How far are you planning on shooting these??

DukeInFlorida

01-14-2013, 10:07 AM

I echo Lizard333's comments and question.

If you are striving for benchrest shooting quality, you will be disappointed with making bullets from 9mm jackets. Buy expensive commercial J4 jackets.

If, however, you are plinking, hunting, or otherwise OK with pretty damned good accuracy out to about 100 yards, then you might be happy with 9mm cases, or 5.7X28FN cases as jackets.

Forget about boat tails with brass cases, however.

AZ-JIM

01-14-2013, 08:58 PM

To be honest I would stick with commercial jackets if your putting a boat tail on a bullet. Using brass the base the is considerably more enforced.

A flat based boolit will do really well out past a couple hundred yards. Only then does the advantages of the boat tail come into effect.

How far are you planning on shooting these??

I echo Lizard333's comments and question.

If you are striving for benchrest shooting quality, you will be disappointed with making bullets from 9mm jackets. Buy expensive commercial J4 jackets.

If, however, you are plinking, hunting, or otherwise OK with pretty damned good accuracy out to about 100 yards, then you might be happy with 9mm cases, or 5.7X28FN cases as jackets.

Forget about boat tails with brass cases, however.

Nope not planning on using them in matches. I was just curious, like I said swaging is a new arena for me so Im gathering knowledge. If 200-300 is good for these boolits that is fine, even for hunting, that is about as far an ethical shot you should take in uncontrolled conditions anyway imho. So acceptable results for less work sounds good to me.

az-jim

shangrila

01-14-2013, 09:32 PM

58512 This is what I'm looking for. Flat based and long taper around 120 grain or a heavy 220 grain (like the Sierra MatchKing HP). I want these for short range (100-200 yds.). Just my dreamlist :-D

DukeInFlorida

01-15-2013, 10:51 AM

You'll want to buy a set of BT Sniper's copper tubing dies.Will do exactly what you re looking to do.

58512 This is what I'm looking for. Flat based and long taper around 120 grain or a heavy 220 grain (like the Sierra MatchKing HP). I want these for short range (100-200 yds.). Just my dreamlist :-D

shangrila

01-15-2013, 08:30 PM

I'll have to look at those. Thanks

khamill2000

01-19-2013, 11:50 PM

As the proud owner of a set of BT's draw dies to reduce 9mm to 30 cal, I must say that they are very easy to use. I start with annealed brass and then just run each piece through all 4 dies and have very nice jackets. Very similar to derimming 22lr.

BT Sniper

01-20-2013, 12:43 AM

Glad you like them. Thank you for your support and patience.

I'll have to try the 9mm-308 bullet again some day. I am sure I should be able to get under 1MOA with them.

Good shooting and Swage On!

BT

Capt. Senile

01-20-2013, 01:54 AM

Are the dies able to handle longer 9mm cases, say 9mm Largo, to make heavier 308 bullets?

BT Sniper

01-20-2013, 02:01 AM

Yes! But I wouldn't sacrifice valuable brass (I'm not fimilar with that 9mm case), if you want somthing longer then a 9mm can make you might as well use a cut 223rem case. IMO

The 223 will certainly make any weight 30 cal bullet when teh 9mm runs out of jacket space.

BT

Capt. Senile

01-20-2013, 08:44 AM

223 cases in and of themselves are too valuable (right now) to use as jacket material. Even buying new 9 x 23 or 9mm Largo is cheaper than 223, provided 223 can be found at all.

BT Sniper

01-20-2013, 12:11 PM

Good point, I hadn't checked 223 brass availabilty latly. Heck if you had to buy brass you might as wel try to find FN5.7x28 for easy perfect 30 cal jackets. At one time I could find them for 7 cents each.

BT

DukeInFlorida

01-20-2013, 02:29 PM

7 cents a piece for the 5.7X28FN brass is a lot, but trading is a better option.
Over the course of the past couple of years, I have traded for nearly a full bucket of 5.7 brass.
It takes a while, but it does add up.

Can't wait to start stuffing them with lead.

khamill2000

01-20-2013, 08:46 PM

My current supply of 9mm ran me 2 cents each, delivered. The 5.7 I got for a similar price but couldn't get near the same quantity.

R.Ph. 380

05-30-2013, 01:27 AM

Bump because I want a set of these soon.

Bill

DukeInFlorida

08-17-2013, 09:09 AM

BUMP

Patience, grasshopper......

It will happen.............. All good things come to those who wait.

GaugeGreer

05-01-2017, 08:19 PM

Anyone had good accuracy with 9mm brass made into .308 bullets

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BlackoutBuilder

05-02-2017, 12:40 AM

Handy thread . Thanks

BT Sniper

05-02-2017, 02:33 AM

I'm sure it is possible to get good accuracy, and the 9mm 30 cal jacket certainly has some great advantages to it as far as controlled expansion and probably deep penetration, I have a post here somewhere that shows the bullet cross sectioned next to a recovered bullet shot into 5 jugs of water. The recovered bullet looked great!

I didn't get around to shooting these for accuracy. Out of my 300 WM the 178 grain bullets from 5.7 brass was a better match.

BT