44 full wad cutter

[nes4ever69]

has a company ever made a full wad cutter for a 44? ive done searches and come up empty.

or is this a mold that is out of production and you have to look for on ebay or at gun shows.

[primersp]

accurate mold makes one in severals weights

[GLL]

Here is one I had Accurate Molds design for me !

LYMAN also made a couple but they are out of production.

Jerry

http://www.fototime.com/8F95495D13D5995/orig.jpg

[GLL]

I also ran a Group Buy through LEE for this 6-cavity light weight DEWC designed by 45 2.1.

Jerry

http://www.fototime.com/97E0A1D402A0BD4/standard.jpg

[Ilwil]

I just saw a Lee 208 grn , 2 cavity full wad cutter sell today on this website. A discontinued mould.

Saeco also sells a kind of wad cutter mould, they call it a truncated cone, 200 gr. Midway carries it in 2, 3 and 4 cavity.

Currently, MiHec is offering a HB .44 wad cutter in a group buy, 4 cavity brass. I'm in for one of them.

[fredj338]

I think Saeco still cataloges the #420, a 200gr FWC.

[Dale53]

I have GLL's Group Buy mould and have been very satisfied with it. We have an indoor range with power limitations allowed and it makes it very easy to identify "range friendly" loads.

Dale53

[94Doug]

429348 Lyman.

http://www.castpics.net/subsite/HistMolds/IdealandLymanMolds.pdf

Doug

[Bret4207]

Here is one I had Accurate Molds design for me !

LYMAN also made a couple but they are out of production.

Jerry

http://www.fototime.com/8F95495D13D5995/orig.jpg

Jerry and his mould porn!!!:awesome:

[Whistler]

I shot the LEE 208gn WC in PPC one season. I could clearly see my hits from 50y without using my binoculars! :D

I found the two cavity in an auction, then some months later ran into a NIB six cavity mold for the same boolit. Ruined one of the cavities in an attempt of "leementing" (never doing that again). I use it quite a lot. It is very enjoyable to use in .44 Special with 6.0gn of Vihtavuori N340 in my S&W 629.

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/7528/img0848bx.jpg

[Blammer]

OLD WEST BULLET MOULDS will cut you one.

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/blammer8mm/Cast%20boolits/DSCN7424.jpg

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/blammer8mm/Cast%20boolits/DSCN7432.jpg

[Nobade]

I have one of the 6 cavity Lee 208 ones, it works really well in my 44 spl. loaded over 4.5gr. Green Dot.

[redneckdan]

I picked up a 429398 here in S&S a while ago. Mine is the hollowbase version. Casts at .434 and has been accurate in every revolver I have tried them in. My 629 has a throating issue I need to resolve yet but these still shoot real nice. Load them backwards and they do a good job of exploding milk jugs but accuracy suffers.

[alamogunr]

OLD WEST BULLET MOULDS will cut you one.

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/blammer8mm/Cast%20boolits/DSCN7424.jpg

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g81/blammer8mm/Cast%20boolits/DSCN7432.jpg

That looks very similar to a Lee GB from awhile back. I've got it but haven't used it yet.

John
W.TN

[bobthenailer]

i had the lee 208 WC and now currently have the saeco # 944 a 200 gr WC . i used them for bowling pin matches in a 44 mag , accuracy is excellent to 25 yards but drops off at 50 yards .
If you would like to try some of the # 944 s ? i could send you some ! I could fit up to 500 in a small flat rate box . $7.00 a hundred + $5.20 shipping.

Please leave a PM

[Doby45]

Miha 4 cavity hollowbase wadcutter Group Buy is running right now..

http://www.castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=99994

[Maven]

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"Has a company ever made a full wad cutter for a 44? ive done searches and come up empty.
or is this a mold that is out of production and you have to look for on ebay or at gun shows?"


nes4ever69, Belding & Mull once produced a FWC, .44cal. (in fact, I was casting with mine earlier today), but it is a rara avis. Gunshows and eBay (where I got mine) are your best bets unless you order that gorgeous brass custom mold shown in earlier posts.

[peerlesscowboy]

ditto on the LEE 208 grain WC, I have one in a single cavity mould & it casts beautiful bullets. Wish I could get it in an iron mould? Guess I'll have to try the "bullplate" lube thing..........[smilie=f:

[nes4ever69]

that DEWC designed by 45 2.1. looks sweet. thanks for the tip on accurate mold.

i have information to browse with. love to find a 200 grain for plinking around with.

[Dframe]

If anyone wants to part with one of the light weight GB moulds GLL mentioned please let me know. I have an old Lyman listed at 190 grains and I'm in on the latest brass GB from mihec. Yeah I like 44 wadcutters.

[Texasflyboy]

Hensley & Gibbs #107 Full Wadcutter (http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=75945&highlight=107A)


http://hgmould.gunloads.com/molds/107_14.jpg

[alamogunr]

That looks very similar to a Lee GB from awhile back. I've got it but haven't used it yet.

John
W.TN

I guess I had a senior moment. I went to the shop looking for this mold among my Lee GB molds and couldn't find it. I must be thinking about the one Blammer pictured.

John
W.TN

[nes4ever69]

i had the lee 208 WC and now currently have the saeco # 944 a 200 gr WC . i used them for bowling pin matches in a 44 mag , accuracy is excellent to 25 yards but drops off at 50 yards .
If you would like to try some of the # 944 s ? i could send you some ! I could fit up to 500 in a small flat rate box . $7.00 a hundred + $5.20 shipping.

Please leave a PM

thanks for the offer. ill keep this in mind.

[mooman76]

Lee actually made 2 44WC moulds. One was the 208gr and the other was lighter, something like 180gr.

[Wally]

I enjoy using the Lyman 429348 & the Lee 208 .44 cal WC's in all my .44 Cal guns...very pleasant to shoot and quite accurate. Both work well in a .44 mag carbine. Best plinking bullets in the .44 Spl/Mag.

[GLL]

44-200DEWC 45 2.1 design LEE 6-cavity Group BUY by GLL
http://www.fototime.com/C9D14CE4C918D30/standard.jpg


BRP mould-45 2.1 design variation of the LYMAN 429220 Himmelwright
http://www.fototime.com/4F0E3D8190C5690/standard.jpg


Himmelwright LYMAN 429220 (left), 429348 (center). 429352 (right)
http://www.fototime.com/012CB546A301996/standard.jpg

Jerry

[475BH]

http://cgi.ebay.com/LYMAN-DBL-CAVITY-BULLET-MOLD-429348-44-MAG-180-GR-WC-/250784496842?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a63ebbcca
At the above E-Bay address there is a rusty Lyman .44 cal. W-cutter mold.
I am wondering, how much are rusty molds worth?
I thought 20%+/- of new would be a good price for a sucker to pay. But it seems i'm very wrong.
Can someone tell me how long they think it would take to clean up a mold like the one above. Thanks.

[Matt_G]

Jerry, you are a shameless pornographer, you know that? :kidding:

[GabbyM]

Hensley & Gibbs #107 Full Wadcutter (http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=75945&highlight=107A)


http://hgmould.gunloads.com/molds/107_14.jpg

Friend of mine has an eight cavity H&G #107(b).
He left it here a coupe days last winter for me to fill a bucket. Still have a few I kept to play with but not tried them yet. I'm thinking to send them just sub sonic at around 1,000 fps. I cast them from BHN #11 alloy so in theory one could charge them up over 1200 fps and get a mushroom.

The 185gr WC has about the same bearing surface as a 240 grain TC bullet.

[EDK]

http://cgi.ebay.com/LYMAN-DBL-CAVITY-BULLET-MOLD-429348-44-MAG-180-GR-WC-/250784496842?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a63ebbcca
At the above E-Bay address there is a rusty Lyman .44 cal. W-cutter mold.
I am wondering, how much are rusty molds worth?
I thought 20%+/- of new would be a good price for a sucker to pay. But it seems i'm very wrong.
Can someone tell me how long they think it would take to clean up a mold like the one above. Thanks.

$30 would be worth a try with Evaporust. That mould in high end condition would probably go for close to $100. I saw a 4 cavity on some site, but don't recall what it sold for.

I've got GLL's, Blammer's 429352 clone, and waiting on MIHEC's hollow base wad cutter. They are all excellent...the 429352 shoots to point of aim in my VAQUEROS.

:cbpour::redneck::Fire:

[475BH]

I have some 180 gr. WC's from a commercial caster and have shot them w/ as little as 3.5 gr. of w-231 w/ good accuracy at 25 yds. (1" or better).
I am just amazed those things are that good, seems you just cant get a bad group.
Until the leading shows up.

[GabbyM]

I have some 180 gr. WC's from a commercial caster and have shot them w/ as little as 3.5 gr. of w-231 w/ good accuracy at 25 yds. (1" or better).
I am just amazed those things are that good, seems you just cant get a bad group.
Until the leading shows up.

Tumble those hard lubed bullets in some LLA (Lee Liquid Allox). That should cure leading issues in light loads.

[BarryinIN]

I have the Lee 429-208 WC in a single cavity (they run about 212 grains from WW). It does pretty well in my Blackhawk 44 Spl. I need to try it more in my Ruger 77/44.
I wish I had more than a SC mould!

I got the Lee 429-113 WC this winter and just cast with it a couple of days ago for the first time. They ran right at 120 grains with WW. I sized and lubed some, but haven't loaded any yet.

I would like to try a heavier one at 240-250 grains, though I can't really think of a good reason why.
The ones GLL and Blammer pictured look nice. Just what I had in mind. Heavier, but with the extra weight seated out of the case.

[475BH]

Tumble those hard lubed bullets in some LLA (Lee Liquid Allox). That should cure leading issues in light loads.
Thanks for the tip, i'll try that this week.:smile:

[94Doug]

How about a group buy with options of '348 or '352 cavities?


Doug

[DragoonDrake]

How about a NOE tri-wt for the 44. *shrug*

[Ohio Rusty]

I have a WC moulds for the .44. It's the Lee 200 gr. button nosed flat based wadcutter. I just got it not long ago, and I'm anxious to cast some from this mould. I'm planning on 6 to 6.5 grains of Trail Boss behind the WC for an easy shooting target load from my short barreled .44 contender.
That mould came in both a single and double. I have the single - the Lee 429208WC is what is the number. I have the single boolit version.
Ohio Rusty ><>

[BarryinIN]

...the Lee 200 gr. button nosed flat based wadcutter...I'm planning on 6 to 6.5 grains of Trail Boss behind the WC for an easy shooting target load from my short barreled .44 contender.

I don't have any Trail Boss, but just so you know, I found it took less powder than I expected no matter what I used. The bullet seems to want to go fast.

I had the plan of using it as a "training bullet" by loading up some light loads for my kids to shoot in .44 Spl. The idea was to get light recoil combined with a big confidence inspiring hole in the target.
The recoil was low, as were pressure indications, but velocities were higher than expected. That was OK, because it showed me I had plenty of room to keep going lower. I kept reducing my charges, and it seemed like it took a while just to get below 700 fps.

[Ohio Rusty]

Thanks for the info Barry .... I bet I can get the TB load down lower in the 4.5 to 5.0 range for a very mild shooting load. That is the plan anyway. Looking forward to casting and shooting soon ...
Ohio Rusty ><>

[casterofboolits]

http://cgi.ebay.com/LYMAN-DBL-CAVITY-BULLET-MOLD-429348-44-MAG-180-GR-WC-/250784496842?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a63ebbcca
At the above E-Bay address there is a rusty Lyman .44 cal. W-cutter mold.
I am wondering, how much are rusty molds worth?
I thought 20%+/- of new would be a good price for a sucker to pay. But it seems i'm very wrong.
Can someone tell me how long they think it would take to clean up a mold like the one above. Thanks.

Probably three to six hours depending on how much work it would be to knock the alignment pins out. I cleaned up a Lyman four cavity 429421 that was in worse shape than the one pictured. Just have to be carefull to not break sharp cornors. Scrubbing with Barkeeper's Friend and a tooth brush will remove 95% of the rust, then use fine valve grinding compound and shaped bamboo chopsticks to get in the sharp cornors.

[Hardcast416taylor]

How about a group buy with options of '348 or '352 cavities?


Doug

I could have my arm twisted on this topic!Robert

[GLL]

Here are the drawings of the two WC moulds that Tom at Accurate Molds designed for me.

43-270W
http://www.fototime.com/802153ED687B012/orig.png

43-215W
http://www.fototime.com/07EC84EAA127175/orig.png

Tom also has a 43-185W in his catalog !
http://www.fototime.com/217C48BEF8D1B4F/orig.png

http://www.fototime.com/8F95495D13D5995/orig.jpg

Jerry

[happy7]

Oh, if I could only have one of each in a six cavity!