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ddhotbot
03-07-2011, 08:11 PM
looking for some accuracy loads for my snub smith in 38 spec. i have 148 gr hbwc and 158 gr swc bullets. powders i have are bullseye, unique, w231. any help is apprec

35remington
03-07-2011, 09:51 PM
With the 148 HBWC seated flush, 2.7 to 3 grains Bullseye, and 3 to 3.2 grains W231.

If seated out a little to center the bullet in the throats, increase charge about .2 grain.

With the 158 SWC, if it's of normal seating depth, 3.5 Bullseye, 4.2 of W231 or 4.5 to 4.7 grains Unique. All are standard pressure loads.

Plus P would be 5.0 Unique or 4.6 W231 with the 158. Okay if your snubby is rated for it.The 5.0 Unique load gets around 850 fps in a two inch, the W231 load a hair less.

cajun shooter
03-08-2011, 01:49 PM
2.7 grains of Bullseye was the standard for many years when loading the 148 gr Speer HBWC. It won many a PPC match and is very light in recoil. Your sight radius for a snub nose revolver will have great effect on your downrange results.

MGySgt
03-08-2011, 03:58 PM
If you are looking for a defensive load - stay with the BE - less muzzel flash.

I tested BE, 231 and Unique just after dark on my home range - I could actually see after the BE loads, but not with the 231 or Unique.

BTW I was using max loads.

just my 2 Cents worth.

MtGun44
03-10-2011, 12:07 AM
The recommendations of about 2.8 BE are right on. Light and accurate.

Bill

zxcvbob
03-10-2011, 12:19 AM
I've been loading 2.5 grains of International with 148 grain DEWC's. I have a box of HBWC's that I need to try with the same load and see which is more accurate.

2.7 to 3.0 grains of Bullseye (usually less than 3) is the standard accuracy load with wadcutters. I'm using International because I have some, and I like how well it measures and how clean it burns when loaded light.

3.5 grains of BE is a good mild load for 158's. 4.5 grains of Unique is getting close to a full-power service load.

krag35
03-10-2011, 12:06 PM
2.7- 3.0 Bullseye with 148HBWC seated flush. I wish I had all the HBWC I have sent down range back, I'd have a PILE of lead avalible for casting now.

pdawg_shooter
03-10-2011, 12:50 PM
I have only 1 38spl load. 148gr HBWC loaded backwards over 5.0gr Unique. Works for plinking and is a fair defensive load.

August
03-10-2011, 01:49 PM
Unique has provided amazingly consistent results in all kinds of large capacity cases (like the .38 special). That's the one, from among your stated choices, I'd use.

However, Titegroup is my go-to powder for .38 special because of its consistency and absence of temperature or position sensitivity. Goes bang every time the same as the last. Most of the competitors I know who shoot smokeless powder have come to this same conclusion. It is a low to mid intensity powder, however, and should not be used for medium-heavy or heavy loads.

zxcvbob
03-10-2011, 02:14 PM
I tried Titegroup in .38 Special and I hated it. Chacun à son goût, I guess (Cajun accent) :redneck:

rogsir
03-10-2011, 06:02 PM
I use the lee 105swc bullet with 3,4grs with vv-n310 powder, it runs around 890fps, and in a ransom it will knock down a coin at 25 meter. I love this bullet for target shooting. If you can, you should try it.

ChuckS1
03-10-2011, 08:48 PM
I use 2.7 grains of Bullseye and a HBWC in my 6" K38 for my accuracy load. But if you have a 158 grain SWC, try 3.5 grains of Bullseye. That's always been very accurate in my 4 and 6 inch 38s.

GrizzLeeBear
03-10-2011, 09:34 PM
+1 to 35remington.

Those are pretty much the all time classic 38 loads.

ColColt
03-12-2011, 09:48 PM
I haven't found anything that works better than 4.5 gr of 231. Great, consistent groups if I do my part. 6.5 gr of HS-6 does an admirable job as well...both of these with the 158 gr LSWC.