p tearing

[wgr]

i been having problems with my patch getting pushed down towards the case when i set the bullet. its a 45-70 any help thinks bill

[leftiye]

Are you wrapping so that the patch comes forward of the bullet shoulder onto the ogive? The patch should bear againt the start of the rifling and engrave. Nother scenario - is the patch so large that it won't enter the freebore. Lossa 47-70s don't have any freebore. Bullet seated out too far? (or undersized boolit?

[wgr]

its not when im loading the round its when i set it in the case

[giz189]

Patch it wet, roll it tight and if you twist it going in the case, be sure to twist the same direction patch is wrapped in.

[wgr]

lets try again its tearing on the top . when i run it into the seater die

[303Guy]

Would you happen to have pictures you could post for us? (That in itself is a mission until one becomes familiar with the tricks!):roll:

[pdawg_shooter]

Is it catching on the crimp ledge in the die?

[wgr]

Is it catching on the crimp ledge in the die?

that could be. ill try and get some pics

[Lead pot]

What is the bullet diameter before you patch it?

[wgr]

What is the bullet diameter before you patch it?
.452 smooth bullet

[pdawg_shooter]

A smooth sided bullet doesn't work well for me. The patch CAN slip some. I prefer a standard grooved bullet sized down in a push-through die. The grooves give the paper something to grip and hold a bit more lube after final sizing.

[redneckdan]

it is probably tearing on the crimp ledge. Run your seating stem all the way down and adjust your die body upward to compensate. I bell my cases such that I don't have to crimp the bell down in order for it to chamber.

[wgr]

thinks for the info. guys bill

[wgr]

it was the crimp ledge that was tearing the paper. got it worked out thinks alot guys bill