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gunslinger20
02-27-2011, 04:31 PM
Is 50/50 bar solder pb to tin or antimony? I want to alloy WW + pb + ? = 10 lb Lyman #2 with that formula i can make any amount i want.
Thanks in advance.

fredj338
02-27-2011, 04:54 PM
Is 50/50 bar solder pb to tin or antimony? I want to alloy WW + pb + ? = 10 lb Lyman #2 with that formula i can make any amount i want.
Thanks in advance.

No, it's tin to lead. So a 1# bar of 50/50 is 8oz of tin, no antimony at all.

gunslinger20
02-27-2011, 04:59 PM
Thanks Fred

imashooter2
02-27-2011, 05:05 PM
You can't make Lyman number 2 from WW and solder. You need to find additional antimony somewhere. Typical source is type metal.

9 pounds of WW plus one pound of 50/50 will give you ~92Pb-3Sb-5Sn. That's about as close as you can come with what you have on hand.

gunslinger20
02-27-2011, 05:27 PM
You can't make Lyman number 2 from WW and solder. You need to find additional antimony somewhere. Typical source is type metal.

9 pounds of WW plus one pound of 50/50 will give you ~92Pb-3Sb-5Sn. That's about as close as you can come with what you have on hand.

With that formula can you give an estamat of bhn?

lwknight
02-27-2011, 05:56 PM
With that formula can you give an estamat of bhn?
You could probably expect about a 12. Unless you are deadset on expansion control , I would suggest less tin. Higher tin alloys actually soften with age.

gunslinger20
02-27-2011, 06:15 PM
I think lots of reloaders are useing 50/50 ww/pb but I dont understan why they arent having size problems.

bumpo628
02-27-2011, 06:36 PM
Lyman #2 is 5% Tin, 5% Antimony, Hardness = 15 Bhn

You could add Magnum shot (5% Antimony) and 50/50 solder to get very close to Lyman #2.
9 lbs Magnum shot + 1 lb 50/50 solder = 10 lbs of 5% Tin, 4.5% Antimony, Hardness @ 14

Rotometals has a formula for estimating hardness:
Brinell = 8.60 + ( 0.29 * Tin ) + ( 0.92 * Antimony )

Let me know if you want a copy of my alloy spreadsheet.

gunslinger20
02-27-2011, 06:44 PM
yes that would be very helpful I have some #2 lead shot from years ago when I used to goose hunt, I dont know if that is magnum shot.

bumpo628
02-27-2011, 06:57 PM
yes that would be very helpful I have some #2 lead shot from years ago when I used to goose hunt, I dont know if that is magnum shot.

Here you go:
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=105952

Get the 2/14/11 version

white eagle
02-27-2011, 08:06 PM
thats what the Lyman
manual said as well
9# ww and .5#lead,.5#tin
or if you will 1# 50/50 rite around 15 bhn

gunslinger20
02-27-2011, 09:15 PM
Wow too much to take in all at one time, very informative.Ill have a lot of options that I didnt know existed, Thanks

montana_charlie
02-28-2011, 12:52 PM
Or, you could get three things for two dollars and one thing for four dollars...