Lyman429215GV?

[shooterchris]

Just picked up this mold today. I have a RCBS 265gr that shoots nice out of my 1894, but I have a habbit of being unable to turn down a good deal on a 44 mold. Anyone have any experience with this mold? Also, what does the GV at the end of the mold number indicate? Thanks.

[theperfessor]

I have a two cavity 429215 and have tried it a little bit but not recently. It was OK in a couple different .44 Specials but not any better than other plain base bullets in that weight range that I have molds for. I don't want to spend the extra time and money on GCs if it's not going to give me any gain, and in a .44 Special there is no need. I'm talking real .44 Special loads and not some hyped up .44 Special +P "don't use it in an old Colt" load.

Don't recall using it in a .44 Mag so maybe somebody else has a good load for it.

The GV is supposed to represent the cherry (or maker of the cherry, I've seen two versions mentioned) and is simply a way to match up a mold with the cutting tool used to create the cavity.

[peerlesscowboy]

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Don't recall using it in a .44 Mag so maybe somebody else has a good load for it.

20 grains of 2400 :Fire:

[GP100man]

20 grs of 2400 will push it purty good !!!

If ya like it I got a 1 holer that I had Degas checked by Buckshot !

My original plans were If it shot good as a PB I was gonna have Buckshot HP it .

IMHO I think it shoots better !& HPed should make it even better !!

My intrests these days lie with my GPs & they won`t shoot a 430 boolit !!

I think GV has something to do with a minor change in the molds .

Look at these 2 358466s

http://i746.photobucket.com/albums/xx110/GP100man/102_0489.jpg

[shooterchris]

I plan on shooting it pretty warm. I kinda want the gas check in my rifle. I figured that it may be more accurate downrange due to the weight being lighter in a slower twist barrel. I am shooting my heavier GC bullet with 19.5gr 2400. I am looking to see if anyone has experience with this in an 1894 Marlin.

[rintinglen]

back in the early 90's I shot up several hundred in my old Redhawk--what a good gun that was; I owe myself a kick in the butt for selling it. The 429-215 on top 23 grains of old 2400 or 26 grains of H110 were very accurate and plenty hot, though I don't think either was truly Max. I have to confess though, that my 1894 Cowboy has never had one down the tube. I use the 44-250 RCBS mostly in that gun.

[Bret4207]

I've been through a few 215's, I've yet to get one that drops a large enough boolit. Best of luck to you.

[DragoonDrake]

24grs of 2400 through my three rugers. I don't think I have ever put one through my marlin though. Sorry. my $.02.

[GabbyM]

24grs of 2400 through my three rugers. I don't think I have ever put one through my marlin though. Sorry. my $.02.

FYI of any readers. Lyman laod manuals show 22.0 grains of 2400 as a max load.
Other books may show more. I'm not trying to say 24 grains is unsafe in his gun. Just be aware it's a hevy load.

[GabbyM]

Made 2,000 for a fellow last year to run through his Marlin and revolvers. Made him another 2,000 last month. He says they shoot great out of his Marlin over his load of 4227. I’ve seven different 44 moulds so he could have about whatever he liked. I've shot them over 20 grains of AA#9 in my revolver. It's a tolerable load to shoot. you know you're shooting a magnum but I wasn't hurting the next day. You can do the same thing with 2400.

I’d not go to the expense of gas checks then not use them in a near max load. The lighter weight of these bullets compared to the 240 and 255 grain slugs does seam to make a big difference in recoil. Even the 20 grain load of 2400 will launch these at around 1,600 fps from the rifle. If it were me I’d try 26 grains of WW296 then see if the recoil was tolerable. 1,900 fps from the little rifle is some serious smack down and trajectory would be slightly flatter. With most alloys and that big 44 meplat you’d get either expansion or fragmentation with close shots at that high velocity.

One thing I don’t mess with on the #429215 is softer alloys to heat treat for an expanding bullet. Those thin bands are just to hard to get good fill out with soft alloy. I use 2/6 foundry alloy or WW + tin would work as well. I use my RCBS 44-240-SWC-GC for expanding alloys and cast them all up the same. That way I can visually sort my pile of ammo and know how it’s loaded by which bullet is on top.

Most of the arguments some shooters have for using a longer bullet in the revolver for accuracy don’t hold true in a rifle chamber with no cylinder gap. We run them at .430” diameter even in the Marlin. Bullets only drop about .431” from 2:6 alloy.

[DragoonDrake]

Thank you GabbyM. I should have posted that that was a very hot load and at max in the book I had at the time. I have other books that show that load over max, but I have stayed with it b/c it shoots well. I also do not shoot it that often.

[shooterchris]

Gabby, I dont mind the recoil, and the 296 shot really well in my 629 s&w this past weekend under a 240 gr plain base. 296 is hot, but it was pretty accurate.