Cor-Bon 45-70 ammo

[Tom-ADC]

When I bought my rolling block I also picked up as bunch of 45-70 ammo, two of the boxes were older Cor-Bon ammo 460 gr HC cast bullet 1650 fps & 2780 ft/lbs.
I don't own anything to shot these in and probably never will even though these are a good excuse for a new Marlin.
So should I sell these or pull the bullets and replace the powder with something milder and shoot them up.

[btroj]

Sell em. Pulling the bullets will damage said bullets. I would think they might not shoot great after that. Besides, 40 bullets that you will never shoot again isn't much.
You might be amazed at what they could sell for!

Bad

[Tom-ADC]

Yep I agree I'll see what they are worth.

[MtGun44]

These loads are quite expensive now. You should sell them. IIRC, the retail is
over $2 per round.

Bill

[Tom-ADC]

Yes their website show's these at $65 a box of 20.

[Three-Fifty-Seven]

pricey!

[Jim]

..... Pulling the bullets will damage said bullets.....
Bad

Help me out here, I'm confused. How would pulling the bullets damage them?

I'm not contradicting, I'm asking out of true interest.

[Tom-ADC]

Using one of those impact pullers I don't see how that would hurt anything but the crimp on these is heavy.

[Jim]

Using one of those impact pullers I don't see how that would hurt anything but the crimp on these is heavy.

That's why I asked. I've pulled hundreds of loads with an impact puller and never damaged the boolit. As for the heavy crimp, I have to smack the puller against my mallet a little harder, but the boolit will come out.

[MtGun44]

the loaded rounds are worth far more than the components as salvage.

Over $3 per round!

Bill

[btroj]

It will come out but if they have a heavy crimp they may well be damaged. The bullet might be scratched or marked by the crimp. When you fire a round the case expands some which eases the crimps effect on the bullet. With a puller this doesn't happen. Maybe I am wrong bit I just don't know that a lead bullet pulled from factory ammo is going to be pristine.

Brad

[KCSO]

Pulled bullets shoot just fine scratches and all. Pulled military bullets wil groups just as good as unpulled. BUT don't pull these you can sell them for enough to buy a load of brass for the 45-70. I tired two of these in a Winchester 1886 carbine and was happy to quit with two!

[Jim]

..... I tired two of these in a Winchester 1886 carbine and was happy to quit with two!

Yes sir, Buddy! I bet you were! :holysheep

[btroj]

I read that theSe were cast bullets. Jacketed I would have no problem with but I could see cast getting banged up a bit in pulling.

As for recoil, I think these rounds are designed for people who like agony. Some guys just have to prove something suppose.

[Tom-ADC]

I read that theSe were cast bullets. Jacketed I would have no problem with but I could see cast getting banged up a bit in pulling.

These are cast but hard beyond belief. Probably how they hold up to the 1650 fps..

[btroj]

I have shot 15 bhn or so plain base in my 45-70 in the 1650 to 1700 fps range. Leading is slight enough that I can get 20 accurate rounds with no problem.
I know that the cor-bon bullets are probably harder than concrete, I just don't see why. Good marketing ?

[KCSO]

They are advertised for their penetration. For deer n the 45-70 I want light, a modified Lee 340 mould that drops 320 hollow points cast from straight W/W and pushed at 1500 fps. plenty enough for me and the deer. Those Cor Bon from a light 7 1/2 pound rifle are plumb nasty.

[btroj]

Yes they would be. I always view the 45-70 as a work up to it rifle. I largely shoot light loads but when I want to crank it up I start low and work up. The recoil can get brutal really fast. Max load determined by recoil, not pressure for me.

[KCSO]

My Ruger #1 is an old tropical that weighs in at 9 pounds with the extra lead in the butt. I have shot every load yu can imagain in this one even some I didn't push through a Mauser years ago. But after ruining my shoulder in a dust up with an attempted suicide I can only shoot very few heavy loads before I start hurting. My favorite practice load for the gun is a 200 grain rn and 7 grains of Trail boss. This hits 2" low at 50 yards and is fun to shoot. For deer I use a 320 HP made with a Lee moould and push it to 15-1600 and thats ok. My stoutest load is a 535 postell at 1800 fps and that punishing. I can't believe that at one time I wanted to rebarrel this to 458 or 450-400!

[1Shirt]

Like KCSO I have an old #1, and have shot just about every thing thru it from collar button, and trip round ball loads up to and including Postell's (and they really get your attenting at much over 1300-1400). Favorite load is a plain based Ohas 405 gr. over 22 gr. of 2400 w/about a grain of Dac. For deer like the old Gould HP, at probably in the 1350-1400 bracket. Am really getting to like Trail Boss as well under the 340 lee. The 45-70 is an old soldier that will never die!
1Shirt!:coffee:

[KCSO]

1 Shirt, next time I get that way i will get you some of my modified Lee 340's. I use a fixtutre on the milling machine to make them inot a very effective 320 gr hollow point. Somewhat like the gould but with a bigger meplat.

[1Shirt]

Super KSROl, look forward to that! If you will let me know when you are in the Omaha area, and give me a call, I'll buy you a cup of coffee, or lunch or something. Think we have probably run into each other someplace along the line.
1Shirt!:coffee:

[1Shirt]

Well KCSO----at least I got that right this time!
Paul

[Malcolm]

I have been using trail boss ever sience it came out I use 15 gr. in the 45-70. I run them threw a marlin 1895 I been shooting them 200 meters at iron figures.

[Malcolm]

I forgot to mention it is a lead 350gr.