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Ohio Rusty
02-04-2011, 07:04 PM
I found a really cool boolit on the 'net and I have this feeling I need to find the mould for this one. (Moulds are more addictive than heroin !!) I really like the design of this boolit and the big-flat meplat is awesome !!
This boolit was called the Boser SWC ..... any clue where I can find a mould for this one ??? It's probably long out of production. Anyone have this boolit mould ??
Ohio Rusty
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/OhioRusty/BoserSWC.jpg

MT Gianni
02-04-2011, 07:17 PM
wrong info my bad.

Ohio Rusty
02-04-2011, 07:36 PM
That 429360 looks really close to being the same design. Why would the front band be machined undersized?? Is there any advantage to that .... like helping the boolit to load straight?
Ohio Rusty ><>

Maven
02-04-2011, 08:00 PM
Gordon Boser's design, e.g., Ly. #429360, was dimensioned differently (smaller) than more recent CB types, e.g., Ly. #429421 and RCBS #250-K. Glenn Fryxell wrote a nice article on SWC types for the LASC site and I must confess his description of it's inacccuracy was right on the money in my experience.

krag35
02-04-2011, 10:20 PM
Shuz tried to set me straight on the Lyman 426360, but I went through 3 of them before admitting he was right about them. You could not run fast enough to give me one today.

MakeMineA10mm
02-04-2011, 11:35 PM
I suppose Lyman/Ideal could have made a strange variation here, but that sure don't look like the 360 boolit to me!

in Rusty's pic:
The meplat is bigger,
The ogive (sidewalls of SWC nose) are nearly straight and parallel to drive bands,
The front drive band is very narrow (front-to-back).

I think that's a different Boser design.

Rusty, to get one just like the pic, you'll probably have to go the custom route. If you do, I suggest you change one thing. Make that front drive band wider!

jblee10
02-04-2011, 11:54 PM
Is that a 44 bullet? Looks like a 401452. What's it weigh? Diameter?

GP100man
02-05-2011, 12:10 AM
Hey Rusty , not a Boser but a John Barlow design the 358446 , but ya gotta hit the gas with em !!!

I think the top 1 is the original design as it`s an IDEAL & the lower is a Lyman ???

Here`s the link to Mr. Fryxell`s article http://www.handloads.com/articles/default.asp?id=24

http://i746.photobucket.com/albums/xx110/GP100man/102_0489.jpg

justingrosche
02-05-2011, 12:19 AM
Great. I just bought a 429360. I havent even had a chance to cast with it yet, and I'm already disappointed. Thanks Guys!LOL

excess650
02-05-2011, 12:26 AM
Hey Rusty , not a Boser but a John Barlow design the 358446 , but ya gotta hit the gas with em !!!

I think the top 1 is the original design as it`s an IDEAL & the lower is a Lyman ???

http://i746.photobucket.com/albums/xx110/GP100man/102_0489.jpg

I have a NIB, Lyman 357446(old grey box) and it looks like the Ideal in your picture.

montana_charlie
02-05-2011, 12:30 AM
Read this
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BQY/is_10_47/ai_78130011/pg_3/

and this
http://www.handloads.com/articles/default.asp?id=27

CM

462
02-05-2011, 12:38 AM
The picture in Ohio Rusty's opening post is Gordon Boser's .357 SWc, taken directly from Glen Fryxells's article...see picture 12.

justingrosche
02-05-2011, 12:31 PM
For Metplat vs. Diameter this is one of my favorites. Ideal 360344

Ohio Rusty
02-05-2011, 01:30 PM
That 360344 is also a very nice boolit !! I bet in .38 special it would be a pleasure to shoot. with 5.0 grains of Unique under that design, I bet it would be a real good self defense boolit. I'll have to keep an eye out for that mould and see if it pops up on one of the gun selling sites or Evil-bay.
Ohio Rusty ><>

peerlesscowboy
02-05-2011, 01:35 PM
Looks a lot like the ol' Lyman 429360;
240 grain, main driving bands .431", front driving band .422", one very small lube groove. I couldn't get 'em to shoot very accurate and they leaded the barrel badly. Keith designs are better with their full diameter front bands and their larger lube groove....IMO

John C. Saubak

peerlesscowboy
02-05-2011, 01:42 PM
That 429360 looks really close to being the same design. Why would the front band be machined undersized?? Is there any advantage to that .... like helping the boolit to load straight?
Ohio Rusty ><>
I assume the theory with the undersize front band was to align the bullet in the forcing cone more true? Some theories don't work out so good in practice, there's good reasons why most of these discontinued designs were discontinued :violin:

Ohio Rusty
02-05-2011, 02:52 PM
there's good reasons why most of these discontinued designs were discontinued


Good point !!! Thanks ...
Ohio Rusty ><>

bigboredad
02-05-2011, 02:57 PM
check out accuratemolds.com I'm pretty sure Tom has this mold if not I'm sure he would whip it out for you and from what others have said his turn around time is very quick

fecmech
02-05-2011, 03:19 PM
Rusty--How about I give you a chance to try that boolit?? I sold the Modern Bond mold for it here on the board a couple months back but I did cast some and have about 50 or so. I cleaned out my PM's recently so I can't tell you to who I sold it but at least I can give you a "fix" to help you along.
PM me with your address and I'll send what I have. Nick

PS. The one I have is .35 cal

ddixie884
02-05-2011, 07:34 PM
The boolit in the OP looks like a .40 Boser.

turbo1889
02-06-2011, 02:56 AM
check out accuratemolds.com I'm pretty sure Tom has this mold if not I'm sure he would whip it out for you and from what others have said his turn around time is very quick

Agreed !!! If the OP is still bent on having a boolit mold with that kind of design just attach that picture in the OP to an email sent to good old Tom and tell him what caliber you would like it in. He will be able to whip you up something very, very close and have it as a cataloged design for you to order within a matter of days. And then it will be two weeks or less (usually less) from when you order to when the mold will be on your door step.

Personally, I don't really think I care for the design and if I did want a boolit like that I would go for one of Tom's reversible pin boolit molds instead since the nose is the correct diameter to use as a gas check shank when flipped end for end if one so desires and when used like the boolit in the picture in the OP with the shank end forward and no gas check it would have longer bearing length and still give the same large meplat for terminal performance.