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Freightman
01-12-2011, 02:57 PM
Is there a formula for the length of pull for a rifle? I measured my arms from the tip of my trigger finger to the tip of my nose looking straight ahead and got 36.25" if that helps. This is the rifle I want to fit to it has a 14.25" pull.
Thanks

Mossy Nugget
01-12-2011, 03:28 PM
That is a beautiful rifle! The rule of thumb for measuring pull is to measure the length between the first joint of your extended index finger and the inside of your elbow at the bicep. 14 and1/2 is most common. Too long and you catch your clothing when you mount, too short and you have to lay your head over the cheek piece to line up your sights.

Freightman
01-12-2011, 03:47 PM
It shoots as good as it looks, but it does better with 450/500gr boolits it has a medium range tang and a adjustable hooded sight with a bubble (can't see it from the rear) old eyes. It is a little heavy to carry hunting, but I own it and intend to hunt with it. Walked over a section this winter but the only deer we saw was at 600 yds in another mans field.

montana_charlie
01-12-2011, 05:29 PM
I know about estimating desired length of pull by setting the butt in a bent elbow, but...

In order to speak to you in the 'same language' you are using, I measured my arm length the same way you did.
I also came out with 36.25 inches, so we are of similar build in that regard.

Still staying with 'your language', I measured the length of pull on my Sharps rifle.
I got 14 inches.

I find this length to be somewhat short. I don't use my PAST recoil shield because it is so 'hard', but it does give me something close to a perfect length of pull...and it is nearly three quarters of an inch thick.

Do you feel your stock is too long, or too short. You really haven't said...

CM

Freightman
01-12-2011, 05:52 PM
Well I have two butt plates one that is on the rifle is 3/4" thicker than the other and I think it might be a tad short by about 1/2" the other puts me too close to the tang sight and it has hit me in the past.

Dframe
01-12-2011, 06:09 PM
That is a beautiful rifle! The rule of thumb for measuring pull is to measure the length between the first joint of your extended index finger and the inside of your elbow at the bicep. 14 and1/2 is most common. Too long and you catch your clothing when you mount, too short and you have to lay your head over the cheek piece to line up your sights.
Thanks for the info. I always wondered why most rifles didn't fit me. I just checked and the distance from my bent elbow to the first joint of my trigger finger is 16 1/4 inches.

oneokie
01-12-2011, 06:51 PM
Good information given. Will add this, measuring should be done wearing the type of clothing that will be worn while shooting. Cold weather clothing will change the optimum length of pull.

montana_charlie
01-12-2011, 07:39 PM
Well I have two butt plates one that is on the rifle is 3/4" thicker than the other and I think it might be a tad short by about 1/2" the other puts me too close to the tang sight and it has hit me in the past.
There are a number of slip on pads you can put on the butt, and there are the 'shields' that you wear.

Of the wearable type, I like the Bob Allen 398B rifle pad...like this one.
http://www.opticsplanet.net/bob-allen-shooting-accessories-aoc-harness-rifle.html

CM

flounderman
01-12-2011, 08:50 PM
there is no set rule on length of pull. most factory rifles are too long. one size fits all. it makes a difference if you have a long sloping pistol grip or a close straight grip. take an inch off a stock and it changes the balance of a rifle considerably. for a hunting rifle you want a shorter stock. I build mine 13 1/2 and I have a springfield that is 12 1/2. it is a matter of personal preferance but most people would shoot better with a little shorter stock.

PatMarlin
01-12-2011, 10:44 PM
My Pedersoli SXS is to long, but the wood is so nice I can't bare to cut it down.

montana_charlie
01-12-2011, 10:58 PM
...bear...

John Boy
01-13-2011, 12:03 AM
http://www.firearmstalk.com/forums/f18/how-measure-your-length-pull-5551/

Mossy Nugget
01-14-2011, 12:45 AM
This has all made me very curious. I measured the distance between the front of the trigger and buttstock of all my factory long guns. Remington 770 is 13", Mosin Nagant 91/30 (1944) is 13", CVA Hawken Muzzel loader set trigger is 14", hair trigger is 14 3/4".
All of these guns feel right to me. My measurement is 14.5" by the method I posted, but 13.5" using the info on the link John Boy posted by curling the index finger. The Hawken mounts more onto the upper arm than the shoulder. Gun fitting seems like black magic with "cast on or off", "drop", "pitch",etc. More of an issue for shotguns with only a bead for a sight, I guess. I do wonder how much better I would shoot, (or how much less I would suck) if I had a properly fitted rifle.

martinibelgian
01-14-2011, 12:49 PM
It also depends on how you shoot - a dedicated prone rifle would need to be close to 2" longer than a rifle for standing shooting. So there's not really 1 size for all types of shooting...

montana_charlie
01-14-2011, 02:06 PM
I do wonder how much better I would shoot, (or how much less I would suck) if I had a properly fitted rifle.
I have built (or restocked) a few rifles for others. We started out with the elbow to finger distance to get a rough idea, but the final adjustments to length...and height & width...were decided by having the owner shoulder the rifle with his eyes closed.

He would take his favorite shooting stance, then drop the rifle to waist level. He'd be looking at a baseball sized object about forty feet away. He would burn the image into his brain, then close his eyes and remount the gun without moving his head.

As soon as it was in place, he would look to see if the sight picture (or scope) was anywhere close to being in alignment with the target. We would work from there...

CM

oneokie
01-14-2011, 02:31 PM
He would take his favorite shooting stance, then drop the rifle to waist level. He'd be looking at a baseball sized object about forty feet away. He would burn the image into his brain, then close his eyes and remount the gun without moving his head.

As soon as it was in place, he would look to see if the sight picture (or scope) was anywhere close to being in alignment with the target. We would work from there...

CM

Ding, Ding, we have the proper proceedure for fitting a long rifle.

Ohio Rusty
01-14-2011, 07:39 PM
I measure from the inside bend of the trigger back to the center of the buttplate. If I have a rifle that measures 13 and 3/4 inches using that measurement, it is a perfect fit for me.
Ohio Rusty ><>