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joecool911
01-03-2011, 08:16 PM
I missed the group buy. Need a good 10mm hunting bullet mold. I think that the 200 grain with a hollow point would be perfect. Would probably net at around 185. Since the truncated cone seems the be the ticket for feeding in a 1911, a hollow point may be appropriate to make up for lack of a wide nose.

Please no comments about the 10mm not being sufficient for hunting. Its a great round that exceeds 357 magnum. Same bullet would be great for self defense.

This is going into a Fusion longslide tactical hunter.

WM5L
01-03-2011, 09:08 PM
I am new to the board and missed out too. What a bummer!

thegreatdane
01-04-2011, 12:24 PM
likewise.

tommygirlMT
01-04-2011, 02:41 PM
Find a bullet profile you like in a good two cavity iron mold and send it to Eric and have him hollow point convert it for you --- or if you dont like the available factory molds then have one of the various "one off" custom mold makers make you one you like and send it to Eric and have him hollow point it

dakotashooter2
01-04-2011, 07:20 PM
I am using a 210 gr Hped Keith design in my 41 mag. It drops at 196-198 with ww and I size it with a RN top punch which gives it a slightly rounded profile. It has worked good on a couple of whitetails. I also loaded it into a shortened .41 case (special) and it performed OK on a med size doe at 25 yards. I suspect that load would probably closely match the 10 mm. Now to add to that I also size down that same bullet for use in my 40 S&W and it cycles without a problem and is fairly accurate.

fredj338
01-04-2011, 09:35 PM
Find a bullet profile you like in a good two cavity iron mold and send it to Eric and have him hollow point convert it for you --- or if you dont like the available factory molds then have one of the various "one off" custom mold makers make you one you like and send it to Eric and have him hollow point it

That is how I would go. Find a 200grTC mold, use a shallow cup point & soft alloy, it would be a good performer around 190gr @ 1200fps.

joecool911
01-04-2011, 09:56 PM
I have to use aluminum molds due to the humid environment I live in. Iron molds rust here pretty fast.

Can aluminum molds be modified to hollow point? Who is Eric that I should send the mold to?

Anyone know a specific mold to start with?

94Doug
01-04-2011, 10:51 PM
Remember, all you need is a few to make up a NOE "small group buy"


Doug

joecool911
01-05-2011, 12:34 AM
What is a few?

What kind of base do you guys think I would want? Gas check, plain or bevel?

waksupi
01-05-2011, 01:39 AM
Hollow points are not a good thing for hunting. They limit your penetration too much.

MakeMineA10mm
01-05-2011, 01:39 AM
I missed the group buy. Need a good 10mm hunting bullet mold. I think that the 200 grain with a hollow point would be perfect. Would probably net at around 185. Since the truncated cone seems the be the ticket for feeding in a 1911, a hollow point may be appropriate to make up for lack of a wide nose.

Please no comments about the 10mm not being sufficient for hunting. Its a great round that exceeds 357 magnum. Same bullet would be great for self defense.

This is going into a Fusion longslide tactical hunter.


Find a bullet profile you like in a good two cavity iron mold and send it to Eric and have him hollow point convert it for you --- or if you dont like the available factory molds then have one of the various "one off" custom mold makers make you one you like and send it to Eric and have him hollow point it


What is a few?

What kind of base do you guys think I would want? Gas check, plain or bevel?

Here's what I would do.

Take a bullet from the Lee 175gr TC standard mould. (It feeds great, and actually weighs about 180 for me, cast from WW + 2% tin.) Send the bullet off to Tom at Accurate Molds (.com) and tell him you would like to add a gas-check base. Since you're getting a custom mold anyway, might as well make it as optimum as possible, and tell him you'd like two lube grooves instead of the one the Lee comes with. This enhances accuracy, and Tom could make the boolit slightly longer in combination with the two lube grooves and GC base to get you up to about 205-210gr in solid-nose TC form.

Tom makes moulds in iron, brass, and aluminum. Lots of guys get brass ones because they are works of art, and don't rust, but still have the mass to retain thermal energy more like an iron mould, but Tom actually prefers aluminum for his own molds (and says so right on his site).

I'd then have Tom ship the mould to Erik at hollowpointmold (.com) and have him hollow-point it for you. I'd probably leave one cavity as a solid, just for flexibility, but I think Erik can HP all three cavities on Tom's molds(?). That should give you a very nice hunting bullet with the HP version running around 190-195grs, which should be about perfect, IMO. The solid would be running around 205-210 and would be a really good penetrator.

10mm is plenty powerful enough. I load 200gr XTPs myself, but the above bullet mold is what I'd want if going with cast HPs.

joecool911
01-05-2011, 01:15 PM
Great information.

Can he make me a tumble lube bullet? That would be my preference.

MakeMineA10mm
01-05-2011, 02:35 PM
I'm not sure. I'm not a tumble-lube fan, so I've not paid much attention to them, if I see them at a website, and my memory just doesn't recall right now, but if you look through his catalog, you'll soon see whether he's done them or not. Even if he hasn't, I'm sure he could, since it's just a matter of writing the machining program to cut the grooves that way.

I would encourage you to look at a standard lube-groove bullet and trying some standard type of lubes. There are many, many available which work real well (better than tumble lube, IMO). Tumble lube is convenient and saves investment in equipment, but it does have limitations, and while I think it has some uses, I'd never use it in preferrence to a standard lube. There are several standard lubes, I'd consider very hard, including: Felix' World Famous Wonder Lube, Bullshop's Speed Green, Purple Cerasin, LARS BAC, and even good old NRA 50/50 formula. All of these work real well at the 1000-1300fps and 30k-38k PSI pressures you're going to be working within. I strongly doubt that Lee's Tumble Lube will handle those stresses with perfect adequacy...

What 10mm gun do you have? (I shoot a Glock, and with that hex bore, I get even more leary about the "coating-style" lubes, as the stresses on the bullet tear this coating and leave exposed areas of lead in contact with the bore with no, or at least questionable, levels of lube-protection. Even in a standard-rifling bore, I'd be worried about the cutting effect of sharp rifling...

joecool911
01-05-2011, 03:21 PM
I have a glock 20C and a Fusion longslide hunter. 6" barrel and slide. It is a 70 series 1911 custom made with the tactical frame. Black ion bond finish with stainless bling (hammer, ambi safety, mag release, mag well, etc. Set off with red cocobollo grips. Its hot!

JJC
01-05-2011, 03:38 PM
The more I read about the 10mm the more I want one.

MakeMineA10mm
01-06-2011, 01:09 AM
i have a glock 20c and a fusion longslide hunter. 6" barrel and slide. It is a 70 series 1911 custom made with the tactical frame. Black ion bond finish with stainless bling (hammer, ambi safety, mag release, mag well, etc. Set off with red cocobollo grips. Its hot!

pics!!!!!! Please!! :d

fredj338
01-06-2011, 04:56 PM
Hollow points are not a good thing for hunting. They limit your penetration too much.

Depends on the HP design. A shallow cup point offers some expansion but not enough to reduce penetration if enough vel is behind it.


I have to use aluminum molds due to the humid environment I live in. Iron molds rust here pretty fast.

Can aluminum molds be modified to hollow point? Who is Eric that I should send the mold to?

Anyone know a specific mold to start with?
No you don't really, just better storing technique. Spray the mold w/ WD40, drop in a plastic bag & seal it, it won't rust.
Erik @ Hollow point mold specialist can fix you up. He only does work on higher end molds, so you can't get a Lee done. BTW, any bullet design can be tumble lubed.

joecool911
01-06-2011, 08:23 PM
Here is a link to Accurate molds and the proposed bullet design.

2oo grains.

http://accuratemolds.com/img/bullets/detail/bullet_detail.php?bullet=40-200B-D.png

I am kinda starting to steer away from a hollow point and would like to increase the meplat to a WFN like Double Tap. I heard rumor that Beartooth does their bullet casting, but I called and the lady said that the only offering was for the one in their catalog. Its more of a SWC.

fredj338
01-07-2011, 03:13 AM
Here is a link to Accurate molds and the proposed bullet design.

2oo grains.

http://accuratemolds.com/img/bullets/detail/bullet_detail.php?bullet=40-200B-D.png

I am kinda starting to steer away from a hollow point and would like to increase the meplat to a WFN like Double Tap. I heard rumor that Beartooth does their bullet casting, but I called and the lady said that the only offering was for the one in their catalog. Its more of a SWC.
This is my 44 Dev mold w/ pin modified be Erik for a cup point. Notice the very good expansion & wt retention @ 1220fps+ impact vel. This bullet, albeit a 270gr, won't stop in a deer after breaking ribs in & out @ 80yds & leaves a big 25c piece hole in & out. Don't discount a cup pint design for your 10mm hunting bullet.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v703/fredj338/44-272.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v703/fredj338/44-272-1K.jpg

Lloyd Smale
01-07-2011, 06:22 AM
back when i was fooling around with the 610 i did some experimenting with sizing down 41mag bullets to 401. They shot real well for me so about anything that works for a 41 mag can be tried

WM5L
01-07-2011, 08:31 AM
I am in on this one so long as I can find some checks in 40 cal. I was kind of wanting to thin out some feral pigs with my "block" (Glock) 29 and a 15 round clip. :mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:




Here is a link to Accurate molds and the proposed
bullet design.

2oo grains.

http://accuratemolds.com/img/bullets/detail/bullet_detail.php?bullet=40-200B-D.png

I am kinda starting to steer away from a hollow point and would like to increase the meplat to a WFN like Double Tap. I heard rumor that Beartooth does their bullet casting, but I called and the lady said that the only offering was for the one in their catalog. Its more of a SWC.