Lee 90362 soupcan

[MaxJon]

You ripper! I just got myself a Lee soupcan mould #90362. Cant wait to get it to the range! Anyone used this one in the .308??
Any info would great!!8-)8-)8-)8-):-D:-D:-D
BB03

[MT Gianni]

I got great groups with 25 gr of WC846. I don't know that that is worth much too you as that surplus powder is long gone.

[Buckshot]

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8.0grs of Red Dot, Lee C309-113F. 1903 Sporter Springfield. Iron sights, 50 yards.

..............Buckshot

[MaxJon]

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8.0grs of Red Dot, Lee C309-113F. 1903 Sporter Springfield. Iron sights, 50 yards.

..............Buckshot

I hope my mould drops on the large side of .309 so my Mauser 98 will do the same!!
Do you crimp and use a gas check to achieve that group??
Thanks BB03:cbpour::cbpour:

[Buckshot]

I hope my mould drops on the large side of .309 so my Mauser 98 will do the same!!
Do you crimp and use a gas check to achieve that group??
Thanks BB03:cbpour::cbpour:

............My original 2C Lee mould for the slug drops'em at almost .314" but sizing them down to .310" to use as a varmint boolit in my M1903A1 didn't seem to hurt accuracy any (but I only shot it to 50 yards). A more recent Lee 2C dropped'em at .312", and the Lee 6C group buy done here a couple years back drops'em at .310". They all seem to shoot pretty much the same, regardless what they drop from the mould at. Guess there's just not much boolit there to go wrong :-) IIRC there have been FOUR group buys down here for that slug in Lee's 6 cav blocks. Neat little boolit.

I don't really crimp them, just straighten the neck out, and yes I use the GC. The varmint load I used for the M1903A1 shot them at 1650 fps and I used SR7625. Again with the military iron sights and the size of the target, about 50 yards was all I myself was prepared to shoot them at. Unlike a 22RF most ANY hit on a ground squirrel will turn them inside out.

................Buckshot

[MaxJon]

............My original 2C Lee mould for the slug drops'em at almost .314" but sizing them down to .310" to use as a varmint boolit in my M1903A1 didn't seem to hurt accuracy any (but I only shot it to 50 yards). A more recent Lee 2C dropped'em at .312", and the Lee 6C group buy done here a couple years back drops'em at .310". They all seem to shoot pretty much the same, regardless what they drop from the mould at. Guess there's just not much boolit there to go wrong :-) IIRC there have been FOUR group buys down here for that slug in Lee's 6 cav blocks. Neat little boolit.

I don't really crimp them, just straighten the neck out, and yes I use the GC. The varmint load I used for the M1903A1 shot them at 1650 fps and I used SR7625. Again with the military iron sights and the size of the target, about 50 yards was all I myself was prepared to shoot them at. Unlike a 22RF most ANY hit on a ground squirrel will turn them inside out.

................Buckshot
Thanks again Buckshot!!!
I am going to try a few hollow pointed soupcans, by centre drilling them held in a collet chuck in my lathe when i get to cast a few. I figure this would be the way to go rather than make irreversable mods to one cavity of my mould. If they shoot better I would consider making a hollow point pin etc... for one cavity. Another fan of the soupcan, Habcan has relieved the gc portion of his mould to make it a pb. What do you think of this? More bearing surface, may shoot better? Not sure myself. This probably limits the bullet velocity wise not being able to fit a gc if so desired. Cant wait to try a few!!!
BB03
:p:p:p

[Buckshot]

Another fan of the soupcan, Habcan has relieved the gc portion of his mould to make it a pb. What do you think of this? More bearing surface, may shoot better? Not sure myself. This probably limits the bullet velocity wise not being able to fit a gc if so desired. Cant wait to try a few!!!
BB03
:p:p:p

.............A HP couldn't hurt, but I don't know how much it's going to have an effect on real world accuracy? It isn't a long range design to begin with, having the ballistics of a brick with the corners knocked off. Years ago an old shooting buddy of mine was getting improbable accuracy out of it (and the M94 Winchester) he was shooting it from. One Tuesday as I was hauling my gear to the benches he shortstopped me with a couple targets.

Both of'em had tidy clanish 5 shot groups. He said they were the Soup Can. I figured 50 yards as both were just over an inch, with 3-4 shots in each well WITHIN an inch. He then said it was at 100 yards, and I was VERY impressed. And that he'd shot them using his scoped (Leupold VxII 3-9) M94. Hey, knock me over with a feather. Finally he wrapped it up by saying they were going 2100 fps using 21.0 or 23.0 (I forget now) grains of H4198 + dacron. I was now pretty skeptical. :mrgreen: But he wasn't one to make up a streatcher like that because we shot EVERY Tuesday, and one day he'd have to back it up.

As it turned out he had a few more of them left and I witnessed him doing it all over again. I tried it a few weeks later in my Ruger M77 30-'06 (Bushnell 4-12) using his load (whichever it was) and got IIRC something like 1850(ish) fps and sub 2' groups, but I never followed up further with it. I has happy busting ground squirrels with my Springfield @ 1650 fps. With a plain based slug you will probably be limited to a bit below that. Neat little slug regardless. It's just one of Lee's standard designs without a nose [smilie=w:

................Buckshot

[mroliver77]

I shot some in my M1A just for kicks. I was amazed at how well they shot! This bullet has pefrormed well in everything I have tried it in.
Jay

[leadman]

I just cast up a bunch to try in my 1903a3 and my 1895 Nagant revolver. Might try it in my Contender 30-30 carbine also.

[Dobetown]

How would the soupcan do to 200 yards from a 308 or 30/06?

[MaxJon]

How would the soupcan do to 200 yards from a 308 or 30/06?

Dobetown, not sure how the soupcan will go at 200 out of my .308, but i cant wait to try it! I am also going to try mine along side some smallbore shooters at 50m with my fullbore rifle (.308) Looking at the groups Buckshot gets with this boolit i think it will surprise some of my smallbore friends! Either way i think you will like this boolit.
BB03

[MT Gianni]

How would the soupcan do to 200 yards from a 308 or 30/06?

I had some at an NCBS and it was dropping about 18" from my 100 yd setting. I don't recall the load but had an easy holdover sight point and was hitting a 4" gong regularly. This from a BLR in 308.