30/30 full power load

[boomboy]

Hey all I am looking for a full power load for the 30/30. I have a lee 309-150 F. I was hoping to use h4895 since I have a pound just sitting here.
Want to use the rounds for deer and hogs.

[RU shooter]

Hey all I am looking for a full power load for the 30/30. I have a lee 309-150 F. I was hoping to use h4895 since I have a pound just sitting here.
Want to use the rounds for deer and hogs. How bout just start with the staring loads for 150 jacketed loads found in various manuals for 4895 and work up from there.

[Dan Cash]

24 grains of RL 7 under a Lyman 175 gr bullet nets, for me, 2150 to 2200 fps from a 20 in Marlin barrel with no lead and no pressure. Accuracy is slightly over 2 in at 100 with open sights. With the lighter bullet, I would think you could probably ease up to 25 or 26 grain but suspect your accuracy will be about 24 grains.

[boomboy]

How bout just start with the staring loads for 150 jacketed loads found in various manuals for 4895 and work up from there.

That's what I was thinking, just wasen't sure that the data would transfer correctly.
Thanks
P.S. If anyone else Has any pet loads for the 30-30 I am all ears!

[Bloodman14]

1cc of H322 behind a Lee 150-F is a good plinker load for my wife. Full loads I haven't done yet.

[boomboy]

Just went out and loaded up some.
30.5gr H4895 c.o.l. 2.425" just down to the crimp groove of the boolit.
The powder charge came from Hodgdon site. But the COL is a little less than the say, just to get down past the lube grooves.

Shot them out the backdoor of my shop:D and did a real techinal test, I hit a 4x4 pice of wood at about 25 yards 3 out of 3 times. They seemed a little light but thats probably because this is the starting point in the data.

Will have to wait until I can get to a real range to see what they really do.

[rhead]

35 grains of H4350 gave better accuracy in my rifle than H4895. You may get different results in yours.

[northmn]

I have taken a few deer with a 188 grain bullet sized to 309 and 24 grains of RL7 in Remington nicel cases. One was shot at 140 paces from the tree I was in. It walked a few steps and dropped on its stomach such that I had to kick her over to gut her. I use a bullet cast out of birdshot and heat treated. The bases are placed in water and the noses annealed with a torch. Some bullets get wrecked but you do not need that many for hunting. You can sight in and plink with the ones not annealed.

DP

[sewerman68]

I have been shooting a 311466 150 gr gc in my 30-30 till my ranch dog gets here and last week i started messing with H 4895 because my neighbor has a bunch of it and gave me a few pounds. I am running 24.5 gr and a cci magnum primer and having great results. when I used a regular primer I was having a lot of unburnt powder left in my barrel.

I went and dug up my buddys hodgdon manual and it lists for H4895 for 150 gr bullet a max of 32 gr.
for a 170 gr bullet 28 gr max. I personally would not go there with a magnum primer.

hope this is helpful.

[1Shirt]

My 94 likes 30 gr of 3031 under 311291 or 311041HP, no fill. Both shoot to same point of aim. Good luck!
1Shirt!:coffeecom

[Larry Gibson]

In 12" twist 30-30s I use H4895 with a dacron filler under the RCBS 3-150-FN for 2200 fps loads. For less velocity I use 4759 with a dacron filler under the RCBS bullet and a GB WFN 150 gr bullet for 1900 fps and very good accuracy.

Larry Gibson

[boomboy]

I have been shooting a 311466 150 gr gc in my 30-30 till my ranch dog gets here and last week i started messing with H 4895 because my neighbor has a bunch of it and gave me a few pounds. I am running 24.5 gr and a cci magnum primer and having great results. when I used a regular primer I was having a lot of unburnt powder left in my barrel.

I went and dug up my buddys hodgdon manual and it lists for H4895 for 150 gr bullet a max of 32 gr.
for a 170 gr bullet 28 gr max. I personally would not go there with a magnum primer.

hope this is helpful.
sewerman68 Are you crimping when you seat the boolit? That might help with the unburnt powder with out using a magnum primer, not to mention bullets submarineing in the case.
The hodgdon data center online lists a higher max load for 150 gr bullet. Using the data for jbullets it lists 34.0 gr max of h4895 producing 2390 fps as max.
I loaded up some Lee 309-150-F at 33.0 h4895 with a cci non mag primer and got no leadding or unburnt powder.
Scuba

[quilbilly]

Yesterday I did the "wet phone book test" on my Lee 160 gr GC boolits. The load is for fun and plinking so is definitely not a full house load since it has an MV of barely 1600 FPS (usually average 1570 fps). At 50 yards I got 17" of penetration with all four shots. For the last 9 inches of penetration, all four boolits were going sideways giving one of the most vicious wound channels I have ever seen even though the boolits looked as if they just dropped from the mold. No deformation at all. The gas checks shed about 4 inches into the phone books. I estimate my BHN to be about 16-17 with this alloy.
With those results, why do a full house load if shots are under 150 yards?

[sewerman68]

That is out of a manual that is probably 20 years old. Yes I crimp, but I dont use dacron or fillers. With that load I am getting REALLY good accuracy and that is more what I am concerned with. My winchester is pretty old and case necks measure about .311. I really think I dont have a big enuf boolit.

[boomboy]

No matter what you gotta love those old winchesters! Mine was my dad's and I killed my first deer with it. I havent got mine to the range to test accuracy ot that load yet but hope to soon.

[Rocky Raab]

I'll assume that the Lee is a gas check bullet. I don't use 4895 in my 30-30, but two very good full-power (nearly) loads are 16.0 2400 and 20.0 A5744. Either will give a bit over 2000 fps. Accuracy depends on bullet fit.

[pls1911]

I've had good results with 25 grains Reloader 7 pushing heat treated RCBS 180, lyman 31141, SAECO#316, and Ranch Dog 165s.
Microgrove or standard rifling, no leading with gas checks.

[steve in kc]

I'll assume that the Lee is a gas check bullet. I don't use 4895 in my 30-30, but two very good full-power (nearly) loads are 16.0 2400 and 20.0 A5744. Either will give a bit over 2000 fps. Accuracy depends on bullet fit.

Why don't you use 4895 in your 30-30?