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mattbowen
12-17-2010, 09:15 AM
Has anyone tried a sharps from Taylor arms? I am thinking about getting one in the near future and am wondering about their quality.

Matt

358wcf
12-17-2010, 10:41 AM
I've got my eye on a used Taylor 45-70 at a very fair price, but hesitate to do the deal because I know too little of Taylor- appears to be a very wellp-made import, probably Italian. Heavy octagon barrel, no sights. If I had a clear conscience about the quality and durability I just might take the bite--
Let's see who has some valid personal experience to share, shall we?

Thanks for raising the topic!

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Tom-ADC
12-17-2010, 10:46 AM
Matt, not 100% sure but I think their Sharps are made by Pedersoli and if that's the case they are great rifles for the money.

powderburnerr
12-17-2010, 11:47 AM
thee ones I have seen have been made by armi sport, /pederetti , I would look real close at it and make sure the chamber and the internals are in good working order.the older ones had soft stuff inside, and often oddly cut chambers,.. just look at it real close before you buy,

mattbowen
12-17-2010, 12:00 PM
Thanks for the replies. The problem is that I would have to order it on-line without handling it. there is no one around here that carries them. The only place that I found that would carry them only had a 45lc leaver action and that was a Uberti.

I like the Uberti Sharps but that is another one that is not stocked.

Thanks again

Matt;);)

KCSO
12-17-2010, 12:24 PM
Current ones are Pedratti made and are not up to Pedersoli quality.

Boz330
12-17-2010, 12:27 PM
You could try calling Taylor and ask them who makes them. If it was Pedretti I'd avoid it like the plague. Besides you could probably find a Pedersoli for close to the same money.

Bob

mattbowen
12-17-2010, 02:14 PM
I sent Taylor Co an e-mail and ask them for the info on how makes their Sharps rifles and what type of warranty they have on them. I hope they reply but if they don't I won't buy

Don McDowell
12-17-2010, 02:31 PM
Take it from somebody that's been there done that, you don't want to spend your money on a Taylors.
Best to put the same money towards one of the Shilohs or C Sharps found on the auction sites if you're in a hurry and can't wait to get one from them direct, or if you absolutely must donata your money to an offshore company go with a Pedersoli.

SharpsShooter
12-17-2010, 05:36 PM
Taylors, Armi, Pedretti, IAB are all to be avoided. Poor quality, soft lock parts, mis-cut chambers etc

SS

Grapeshot
12-17-2010, 05:42 PM
The Armi Sport models that I used to own did not shoot well with anything I shot in it.:Fire:

I tried Hard Lead, Soft lead, paper patched swaged pure lead and jacketed factory loads, black powder, 777, smokeless. Nothing would keep those bullets in a group. They pattern like a shotgun.[smilie=b:

If anyone has got them to shoot well, my hat's off to you.:groner:

mattbowen
12-17-2010, 09:19 PM
Thanks guys for the replies, I am not in a hurry so I will look around some more. I can't afford a Shiloh's or a C sharps I had one dealer tell me that he can get me a Uberti Sharps for 1250 so I am still looking and waiting.

Thanks again

Matt

358wcf
12-17-2010, 09:46 PM
I really appreciate the honest, open replies- you're helping a member spend his hard-earned money on high quality stuff, not the junk that floods the marketplace-
Based on the replies above, I will pass on the Taylor 45-70 HighWall, and keep saving for a new Win1885 or the likes- Quality carries a price--

Thanks again to all who shared their experiences and opinions-

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Don McDowell
12-17-2010, 11:00 PM
If you can afford 1250$ you can do the same thing you did for the 1250 and come up with 1900. Only have to save another 700$ ( or less, there's been some pretty good deals on Shilohs and C Sharps on Gunbroker recently)

358 you can get a Winchester highwall for less money than you can one of the Uberti imports. Check out gallery of guns.

mattbowen
12-18-2010, 08:22 AM
Thanks for the info gentlemen I will look on Gunbroker

Matt

d garfield
12-18-2010, 11:26 AM
Well gents I have a Quigley Sharps , it is a Taylor. But on the bottom of the barrel it says made by Pedresoli. It is beautifuly made and the wood fits perfect.
With the sights I have on it I have $2000 in it. It is deadly accurate.

montana_charlie
12-18-2010, 02:37 PM
I had one dealer tell me that he can get me a Uberti Sharps for 1250 so I am still looking and waiting.
The Sharps rifles marked 'Uberti' are made by Pedersoli.


Well gents I have a Quigley Sharps , it is a Taylor. But on the bottom of the barrel it says made by Pedresoli.
Taylor's is an importer. They could probably import any brand that they wish.
They may have dealt in Pedersoli Sharps rifles at one time, but all of the Sharps 1874 patterns pictured on their current website are Armi Sport rifles.

CM

Boz330
12-18-2010, 05:27 PM
Good value for the money is the 75 Sharps from C-Sharps. It is slimmer that the 74 similar to the 77 Sharps. To me the 74 is overly bulky, JMHO. If you are locked into the 74 keep saving. Or you could get a 75 to shoot now and save for the 74. List price on the 75 is $1370. The bugaboo is that they ad the excise tax to that.

Bob

NickSS
12-19-2010, 05:27 AM
+1 forthe 1875 C sharps rifle. I have three of them and they are excellent rifles and the recently introduced a single set trigger which makes them even more appealing. Before I would spend $1300 to $1500 on an italian import I would buy one of them. They are the best uy for a quality rifle out there unless you get a deal on a used gun.

mattbowen
12-19-2010, 11:41 AM
Thanks again guys, it will be a little while before I will be able to get one so I will look around some more.

Thanks again

Matt

WildmanJack
12-20-2010, 08:33 PM
Gentlemen,
I have before me a Sharps 30" Creedmore #2 imported by Taylor arms. It IS made by Davide Pedersoli. It is an excellent firearm, well built, fit and finish is amazing and IMHO quite an accurate weapon. How do I know it is made by Pedersoli? It says it on the gun and on the box it came in along with all the Pedersoli papers.. As Charlie says, they may now be doing business with someone else but mine is a Pedersoli..
Jack

JudgeBAC
12-20-2010, 09:09 PM
My Armi Sport in 45-70 shoots less than 1" at 100yds. with 405 gr boolit and 3031. I can't imagine that a rifle at twice the price would shoot better.

Kraschenbirn
12-20-2010, 09:34 PM
My .38-55 Highwall, purchased about three years ago on Gunbroker, is marked "Taylor & Co. Winchester, VA" on the upper flat of the barrel, just in front of the rear sight dovetail, but barrel is also marked "A. Uberti - Gardone Val Trompia" underneath the forearm. Not so long ago, I was shown a similarly marked Highwall in .45-70, as well.

Mine was used when I bought it and I've never bothered to try to run down the actual date of manufacture but, after firing a thousand rounds or so, I've no complaints, either. 280 grain boolits from an old Ohaus mould - cast 30/1, pan-lubed with Emmert's, and loaded over 50 gr FFg - will print consistent 2"-2 1/2" (iron-sight) groups @ 100M - so long as I do my part.

Dunno who's making Taylor's Highwalls these days, but I'd snatch up another Uberti - say either a .40-60 or a .45-70 if I could get it for anywhere close to what I paid for the one I already have.

Bill

mattbowen
12-21-2010, 07:59 AM
It sounds to me that Taylor & Co has imported from several different manufactures over the years. I do know that I e-mailed them last week with NO reply as yet, I also e-mailed EMF Saturday with the same questions and got a reply from them yesterday (Monday) and they told me that all of their Sharps rifles are made by the Pedersoli Co. with the full manufactures warranty. The prices are comparable and EMF took the time to answer my questions and that shows me that they take pride in their product and care for their costumers so I believe that EMF will get my business.

Matt

WildmanJack
12-21-2010, 10:20 AM
Matt,
I made the mistake of buying an EMF a few years ago. It was made by Pedrotti, got rid of it a week later. Just be absolutely sure it's a Pedersoli, There is a huge difference in quality. EMF, like Taylor is an importer, I just sold an Armi San Marco imported by EMF.. Good luck and what ever you decide, enjoy it..
Jack

Don McDowell
12-21-2010, 10:40 AM
I do not understand the rush to spend american dollars on off shore socialist workers , when those same american dollars can do something to help a fellow american.
http://www.wyomingarmory.com/products/items/spg-66/

mattbowen
12-21-2010, 12:24 PM
Don, Thanks for the link, believe me I am not in a hurry. I find hard to find a good used Sharps around here the is reasonably priced, if I were single it would be a lot easier but the wife ALWAYS has something to say (if you are married you know what I mean) I will most definitely save this link and look at their products.
Jack, Thanks that is good to know and I will be careful.

Thanks again fellows

Matt

EDK
12-24-2010, 11:49 AM
Go with the SHILOH SHARPS. It MAY be a once in a lifetime buy...there isn't much reason to get less...quality of the gun plus the superb service are legendary.

Call SHILOH and talk to Lucinda or Heather about delivery time OR what is currently in the sale rack....sometimes they have a dozen; sometimes none! Money is tight for all of us, BUT you can get the basic Sharps for $1800+ (2010 catalogue) I'd order with minimal upgrades and save my money during the wait.

The BIG cost will be your sights....I bought MVA #112 front, with a#107 rear and a spare #130 staff. I also had them drill and tap and install scope mount blocks for a MVA telescope that is about a year or less away.

As others have mentioned, there are some used guns available on the auctions. You know the drill on them, but bargains are out there. Someone with some yankee dollars in their pocket can get some real bargains..."you got a good income and money to spend or you're out of work and need to sell something NOW!" I've scored several nice Marlins, Rugers, and Smith & Wessons over the last year or so.

:cbpour::redneck::Fire:

pls1911
01-01-2011, 11:22 PM
If it's not Pedersoli, Shiloh Sharps, CSharps, don't waste your money.
Uberti's are reputed to be pretty good as well, at least early models having barrels made by Pedersoli.
Traditions imports and markets Sharps made by and marked as Pedersoli and are fine.
I was given one of these to pare up with my others.

mattbowen
01-04-2011, 07:42 AM
Well Gentleman, I got a Pedersoli with a Leatherwood 6x scope for well under what the dealer wanted to sell me the the basic Uberti rifle for and it shoots wonderfully. Thank you all for your input.

Matt

montana_charlie
01-04-2011, 02:12 PM
My Armi Sport in 45-70 shoots less than 1" at 100yds. with 405 gr boolit and 3031. I can't imagine that a rifle at twice the price would shoot better.
That's the thing with the Armi Sport guns...they're kinda hit or miss.

One guy can't make his work long enough to get it dirty, and the next guy has a tack driver.

I could stand to own an Armi Sport Sharps, but only if I bought it used...from somebody who got good service from it.

CM

d garfield
01-04-2011, 09:04 PM
Taylor Arms is just a distributor and sell several makes.:killingpc