"360 200Gr SWC NOE Group Buy"

Landric · 09-04-2009, 09:22 PM

I am far from experienced enough with this whole process to be in charge, but I was wondering if there is any interest in a PB 200 grain SWC mold for .38 Special/.357 Magnum/.357 Maximum? I was thinking something along the lines of a 358627, but slightly shorter so its right at about 200 grains and w/o the gas check.

I really like the 200 grain boolit for .38 Special and .357 Magnum. I've been using the 358430 with excellent results, but I prefer the SWC profile for my magnum loads.

So, anyone else interested?

Here are the designs, one with a GC, the other PB:

358wcf · 09-06-2009, 08:48 AM

Yes, this could prove very interesting-
I've been considering removing the gascheck shank on one cavity of my RCBS 35-200 for lower velocity use. Same idea. Lots of 200gr 35cal molds out there to try.
Are you perhaps looking for something along the lines of a "stretched" Lyman 358429? That could be done by adding another lube groove at the extended base-
Let's keep this train of thought going, guys- who knows what we'll come up with!

358wcf

EDK · 09-06-2009, 10:37 AM

Another idea would be to copy the nose design and length of 358156 or 357446 so the boolit could be used in short cylinder length Smith & Wessons, as well as Marlin lever guns. I am really pleased with Night Owl Enterprises 360180 WFN in my VAQUEROS and Marlin Cowboy rifles..I had been using the 158 grain Lyman 358665 previously.

Landric · 09-06-2009, 03:15 PM

I was thinking of something along the lines of a extended 358429, but so long as its a 200 grain SWC PB, I'm open to the exact profile. Obviously it needs to be something that works for various applications and fits in cylinders, tubular magazines, etc.

Beerd · 09-08-2009, 03:35 PM

I do NOT need another 35 cal mould.

That being said, I would like to see what comes of this idea and may be tempted.
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Beerd · 09-09-2009, 04:27 PM

something to look at:

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Landric · 09-09-2009, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Beerd

something to look at:
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That is exactly what I was thinking about. So, who is interested?

SwedeNelson · 09-09-2009, 07:34 PM

We can run it.
That's what we are here for.
See if you can get some more interest.
Send us your spec's and drawing or we can draw it,
and will get it going.

Swede Nelson

Leadforbrains · 09-09-2009, 07:47 PM

Hey now! I like it!

Heavy lead · 09-09-2009, 07:54 PM

I like, but someone will have to sell me a .357 Max first.

LouisianaMan · 09-11-2009, 07:59 PM

I am **VERY** interested.

I was in on Lathesmith's recent group buy of a RN 358430, and love it for practice. Would prefer a SWC for "service" in both my .38s and my .357. And if it can be used in my Marlin .357 levergun as well . .wow!

SwedeNelson · 09-11-2009, 09:37 PM

Something to look at

Load to a overall length of 1.596 in a 357 Mag.

Swede Nelson

Landric · 09-12-2009, 06:21 AM

Swede, that is just the ticket!

LouisianaMan · 09-12-2009, 01:46 PM

Who can honcho a group buy on this? Would love a mold like this!

SwedeNelson · 09-12-2009, 06:57 PM

We will run it if no one wants to.
Looks like 3 maybe 4 that want it.
Lets see if we have 15 that want it.

Swede Nelson

GLL · 09-12-2009, 09:20 PM

Swede:

If you will tack a GC on the bottom of the cherry I would take one for my .357MAX !

Jerry

Prince555 · 09-13-2009, 12:07 AM

About what would the meplat be ?

Thanks

Landric · 09-13-2009, 10:40 AM

Swede, I'm interested in a 2 cavity that will use Lee handles. Are we looking for 15 all the same, or are there cavity options?

Thanks!

358wcf · 09-13-2009, 10:03 PM

Swede,
This looks quite a bit like Lyman's 215gr GC SWC without the GC. However, even though I have two of those molds, originally designed for the 357Max, I would love to put my name high on the list for one of these! Details to follow, but this looks too good to pass up-

Thanks again and again for all your work on behalf of the gang!

358wcf

SwedeNelson · 09-14-2009, 06:16 AM

Prince555

It has a .250 meplat.

Gas check version.

Swede Nelson

09-04-2009, 09:22 PM	#1
Landric Boolit Man Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North Carolina Posts: 82	"360 200Gr SWC NOE Group Buy" I am far from experienced enough with this whole process to be in charge, but I was wondering if there is any interest in a PB 200 grain SWC mold for .38 Special/.357 Magnum/.357 Maximum? I was thinking something along the lines of a 358627, but slightly shorter so its right at about 200 grains and w/o the gas check. I really like the 200 grain boolit for .38 Special and .357 Magnum. I've been using the 358430 with excellent results, but I prefer the SWC profile for my magnum loads. So, anyone else interested? Here are the designs, one with a GC, the other PB: __________________ "The Engine could still smile...it seemed to scare them" -Felix Landric Last edited by Buckshot; 11-16-2009 at 06:13 PM.

09-06-2009, 08:48 AM	#2
358wcf Boolit Master Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: North/Central California Posts: 161	Very Interesting! Yes, this could prove very interesting- I've been considering removing the gascheck shank on one cavity of my RCBS 35-200 for lower velocity use. Same idea. Lots of 200gr 35cal molds out there to try. Are you perhaps looking for something along the lines of a "stretched" Lyman 358429? That could be done by adding another lube groove at the extended base- Let's keep this train of thought going, guys- who knows what we'll come up with! 358wcf

09-06-2009, 03:15 PM	#4
Landric Boolit Man Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North Carolina Posts: 82	I was thinking of something along the lines of a extended 358429, but so long as its a 200 grain SWC PB, I'm open to the exact profile. Obviously it needs to be something that works for various applications and fits in cylinders, tubular magazines, etc. __________________ "The Engine could still smile...it seemed to scare them" -Felix Landric

09-09-2009, 04:27 PM	#6
Beerd Boolit Master Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: MT Posts: 238	something to look at: ..

09-09-2009, 07:34 PM	#8
SwedeNelson Made in U.S.A. Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Provo, Utah Posts: 864	We can run it. That's what we are here for. See if you can get some more interest. Send us your spec's and drawing or we can draw it, and will get it going. Swede Nelson __________________ More people die from worrying about getting ate by a bear then get ate by a bear. HARD TO FIND GEW 88 PARTS http://www.gunloads.com/fam/swedenelson/album2.htm

09-06-2009, 10:37 AM	#3
EDK Boolit Master Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: South of Saint Louie Posts: 926	Another idea would be to copy the nose design and length of 358156 or 357446 so the boolit could be used in short cylinder length Smith & Wessons, as well as Marlin lever guns. I am really pleased with Night Owl Enterprises 360180 WFN in my VAQUEROS and Marlin Cowboy rifles..I had been using the 158 grain Lyman 358665 previously.

09-08-2009, 03:35 PM	#5
Beerd Boolit Master Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: MT Posts: 238	I do NOT need another 35 cal mould. That being said, I would like to see what comes of this idea and may be tempted. ..

09-09-2009, 07:47 PM	#9
Leadforbrains Boolit Master Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: On the road most of the time. Some times I live TN. , but my heart is still in S.C. Posts: 631	Hey now! I like it! __________________ Fast is fine, but accuracy is final! Will kill for food!

09-09-2009, 07:54 PM	#10
Heavy lead Boolit Master Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Paw Paw, Michigan Posts: 2,247	I like, but someone will have to sell me a .357 Max first. __________________ Red, White and Blue Maize and Blue Through and Through We must stop spending our wealth on prevention of non-existing problems, but rather re-invest in ideas and production that will help us regain our strength as an economic power.

09-11-2009, 07:59 PM	#11
LouisianaMan Boolit Bub Join Date: May 2009 Location: St. Francisville, LA Posts: 24	I am VERY interested. I was in on Lathesmith's recent group buy of a RN 358430, and love it for practice. Would prefer a SWC for "service" in both my .38s and my .357. And if it can be used in my Marlin .357 levergun as well . .wow!

09-11-2009, 09:37 PM	#12
SwedeNelson Made in U.S.A. Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Provo, Utah Posts: 864	Something to look at Load to a overall length of 1.596 in a 357 Mag. Swede Nelson __________________ More people die from worrying about getting ate by a bear then get ate by a bear. HARD TO FIND GEW 88 PARTS http://www.gunloads.com/fam/swedenelson/album2.htm

09-12-2009, 06:21 AM	#13
Landric Boolit Man Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North Carolina Posts: 82	Swede, that is just the ticket! __________________ "The Engine could still smile...it seemed to scare them" -Felix Landric

09-12-2009, 01:46 PM	#14
LouisianaMan Boolit Bub Join Date: May 2009 Location: St. Francisville, LA Posts: 24	Who can honcho a group buy on this? Would love a mold like this!

09-12-2009, 06:57 PM	#15
SwedeNelson Made in U.S.A. Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Provo, Utah Posts: 864	We will run it if no one wants to. Looks like 3 maybe 4 that want it. Lets see if we have 15 that want it. Swede Nelson __________________ More people die from worrying about getting ate by a bear then get ate by a bear. HARD TO FIND GEW 88 PARTS http://www.gunloads.com/fam/swedenelson/album2.htm

09-12-2009, 09:20 PM	#16
GLL I'm A Honcho! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: California Posts: 1,545	Swede: If you will tack a GC on the bottom of the cherry I would take one for my .357MAX ! Jerry __________________ S&W .38/44 Outdoorsman Accumulator

09-13-2009, 12:07 AM	#17
Prince555 Boolit Bub Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 48	About what would the meplat be ? Thanks

09-13-2009, 10:40 AM	#18
Landric Boolit Man Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North Carolina Posts: 82	Swede, I'm interested in a 2 cavity that will use Lee handles. Are we looking for 15 all the same, or are there cavity options? Thanks! __________________ "The Engine could still smile...it seemed to scare them" -Felix Landric

09-13-2009, 10:03 PM	#19
358wcf Boolit Master Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: North/Central California Posts: 161	Yet again, I'm In! Swede, This looks quite a bit like Lyman's 215gr GC SWC without the GC. However, even though I have two of those molds, originally designed for the 357Max, I would love to put my name high on the list for one of these! Details to follow, but this looks too good to pass up- Thanks again and again for all your work on behalf of the gang! 358wcf

09-14-2009, 06:16 AM	#20
SwedeNelson Made in U.S.A. Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Provo, Utah Posts: 864	Prince555 It has a .250 meplat. Gas check version. Swede Nelson __________________ More people die from worrying about getting ate by a bear then get ate by a bear. HARD TO FIND GEW 88 PARTS http://www.gunloads.com/fam/swedenelson/album2.htm Last edited by SwedeNelson; 09-14-2009 at 06:53 AM.