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    What type is that one , and where did you get it.
    Was it one of the Un Drilled India imports ?
    Fun is the main reason I want to buy a Blunderbuss.
    I don't look good in a three cornered hat and an eye patch.

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    Rayle barrel I believe, the builder”s name escapes me
    Will look in my records

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plastikosmd View Post
    I bench shoot mine for fun w an adapted grenade sight on it for 100 yards. 12g slugs


    It is a hoot
    I bet that gets a lot of attention and conversations at the range.

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    did you forget that they were and are still a shot gun? some people still hunt with them. don't generalize. there are other opinions out there.

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    that is a very nice piece my friend! and I agree it is a head turner at the range!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAGS View Post
    What was the issue that you saw that made it Unsafe To Shoot ?
    The less experienced shooters need to know what they need to look for .
    And I have heard that some suppliers are reluctant to give a refund if you say it is unsafe to shoot.
    Mainly because they sell them as Non Firing Replicas.
    They void all warranties if you modify it at all , especially to fire live loads
    The breech plugs only had around 1/4" thread engagement. No thanks!
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    The Traditions Blunderbuss also comes as a flintlock that's in stock at muzzle-loader.com. --->>> https://www.muzzle-loaders.com/tradi...ber-kr510.html
    When I held one of these I noticed that the stock had a very thick wrist, much thicker than a half stock rifle.
    I guess that they let the builder decide how thick that they want it to be.

    Here's some photos of a Blunderbuss that moharrow built in 2010.
    It has a Colrain barrel that looks the same as the Pecatonica kit, except he bought the barrel from TVA.
    The furniture came from TOW, and the doglock castings came from EJ Blackley and Son. --->>> https://www.blackleyandson.com/cgi-b...O&ACTION=Go%21

    His range report indicated that he loaded home cast .765 balls, and tried buck & ball loads.

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    Thanks Waksupi.
    That is also one thing that most people would not check or have the ability to check.
    That is a good reason to avoid guns made by less than Quality Controlled manufactures.

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    Waksupi did the right thing to check the breechplug and to send it back.
    I hope that he got his money back.
    I was looking for a photo of an India breech plug of recent manufacture but didn't find one.
    However a guy named Leadball Loader posted this about his India breech plugs in Jan., 2020:

    "I have removed the breech plugs on three of my India muskets and found them to be well threaded.
    I made the grooved area where the flash vent came through slightly deeper for access to the main charge.
    These muskets were purchased through Military Heritage in Canada.
    A barrel vice was used and I made a witness mark to return to." --->>> https://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/t...barrel.118623/

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    Quote Originally Posted by arcticap View Post
    The Traditions Blunderbuss also comes as a flintlock that's in stock at muzzle-loader.com. --->>> https://www.muzzle-loaders.com/tradi...ber-kr510.html
    When I held one of these I noticed that the stock had a very thick wrist, much thicker than a half stock rifle.
    I guess that they let the builder decide how thick that they want it to be.
    It occurred to me that if a person didn't like the amount of flare at the end of a Traditions Blunderbuss barrel that they could remove the amount that they didn't like.
    That part of the barrel is thin enough to easily cut shorter, just like if someone didn't like the shape of the wrist.
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    The thought of shortening the Flair on the barrel of a Traditions to make it look more to my taste.
    But there are other things I mentioned like the shape of the front of the stock and the stock not going all the way out to the end of the barrel.
    Plus no way to install a Ramrod because of the barrel mounting screw
    I could put a lot of time and work into a Traditions Blunderbuss.
    But IMO.
    My time and work would be better spent on a gun that is closer to the style I want.

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    Place my order for my Blunderbuss this morning.
    I decided to go with the Kit from Pecatonica River.
    It is a .75 cal 20" barrel on a Walnut Stock with Brass Hardware.
    They said it will probably ship within two weeks

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    BTW.
    When I was talking with Pecatonica , they said they just received some 4 bore Blunderbuss barrels made by Rice.
    They are offering them on another kit also.
    They said the muzzle is like 2" diameter.

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    I would get the 4 Bore ! Bigger is always better
    Years back we came across a blunderbuss of dubious materials but with a nice usable stock. Sold off the barrel and cheap flintlock. Bought an L&R flintlock that was just a touch larger than the previous lock. Found a used barrel of 1 inch bore with an OK muzzle taper to flair and set to putting it together.
    It is alot of fun ! Everyone who sees it wants to shoot it.
    We shoot mostly blank charges of 2F Goex during holidays but off and on load up 1 1/4 ounce loads of .20 swan shot or #4 shot and line up a bunch of cans at 25 yards and see who wins that days bragging rights. Balloons stapled to a plywood chunk 4 feet square is far more enlightening.
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    If I have as much fun with the 75 cal as everybody tells me I will , then I may build a Shorter 4 bore model Blunderbuss.
    The kit will be coming in sooner than I thought it would.
    So I better get some of these other rifles done so I have time to concentrate on the new build.
    Without being able to see the kit yet , I have no idea how long it will take me to build it.
    After all , this is not one of those screw together kits.

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    You people are the worst enablers EVER !
    Pecatonica is showing this for $215.
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    A little more "bell" would be better, But this has possibility's.
    Cogno, Ergo, Boom

    If you're gonna be stupid, don't pull up short. Saddle up and ride it all the way in.

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    That is the barrel that is going to be on my kit.
    I like it because it has a Cannon Style Muzzle but the bore is also Flaired.
    The flair on the bore does not Spread the shot more than a straight bore does.
    The flair just helps in loading.

    With the Flaired bore , I can load it faster and be like a Virtual Machine Gun. LOL

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    LAGS, now I just have to find a stock that looks good cut back and find a blacksmith to make the blade.
    Cogno, Ergo, Boom

    If you're gonna be stupid, don't pull up short. Saddle up and ride it all the way in.

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    Did you check out Petatonicas stocks ?
    Or do you have a stock that you want to cut back.
    Most Full Stocks will be a little thin up front to fit very good.
    But you can take a Half Stock.
    Cut it off and then add a wider price of wood to the front to extend it back out.
    But then again , the barrel not being that Flaired out , it might look good on a Half Stock.

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    I wanted a steel barrel.
    But I like the look of a Brass Barrel.
    I wonder how the barrel would look if it was Cerokoted in a Gold or Brass color.
    Or just get the barrel Brass Plated.
    Last edited by LAGS; 11-05-2020 at 10:23 PM.

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