I think I made a goof - not sure though

[Black Wolf]

Ok - fiiiinnnnaaaaallllyyyy got a decent group at 20-25 yards (anything previous to this I was getting like 1.5' [yes, feet] groups.

I tried the 13 grains of Red Dot, w/ gas check, patched to .332", and lubed it with Alox and got a real tight group at 20-25 yards. Group was like 3".

I think I'll still try a slower powder to see if I can bump of the velocity but I'll need to cast more bullets.

... I can breath now knowing the rifle isn't mysteriously out of whack.

Update...........................Chrony Info
Impeccable:
5 shots using the above load - 13 gr Red Dot, gas check, patched to .332, lubed w/ Alox

1. 1409 fps
2. 1416 fps
3. 1407 fps
4. 1406 fps
5. 1407 fps

AVG: 1409 fps
ES: 10
SD: 4

Group 4.5" at 80 yards. While the group is fair to good, the Chorny info is fantastic. Now if I just do my part. I wouldn't take it hunting with that load, but sure is a great plinker.


..............Another Update
Decided to do some BB gun practice with the kids. My 5 yr old son is a lefty, and has a hard time not aiming with his right eye. So, teaching him to concentrate with his left-eye (dominant) instead of using his right eye. Working on keeping the buttstock against the shoulder. Yesterday, he had a hard time without the patch. Today, he was nailing the target. By the way, BB guns shoot at 240fps.


...this says it all.....

[windrider919]

Black Wolf, I still think you are using too fast of a powder. Way back on post #11 Docone31 was asking the same thing. Several other posters asked too. I went back and read the entire thread from the start and your bullet size and wrap seems to be fine. So even though you got a SD of just 4 which is usually an indication of consistency I have seen that not be true on occasion. Would you try some medium burning powders so we could see the results?

[docone31]

Yeah, I use either 4895, or 4064. Good clean burn.
I found, going on the lighter side of the load, I get lousey groups, and carbon necks.
With paper patching, we are not firing a modified cast load.
I treat them like jacketeds, with less fouling.

[Black Wolf]

Black Wolf, I still think you are using too fast of a powder. Way back on post #11 Docone31 was asking the same thing. Several other posters asked too. I went back and read the entire thread from the start and your bullet size and wrap seems to be fine. So even though you got a SD of just 4 which is usually an indication of consistency I have seen that not be true on occasion. Would you try some medium burning powders so we could see the results?

Ok - I'll need to cast more bullets, may take a few days because I'm traveling out of town for the next few. These next ones I'll try both 4895 and 4064, using the minimum load data for jacketed bullets. For my own notes: Use .325" sized, PP to .335", No check, light lube.